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If you teach, was your SEN training good enough?

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Whatafustercluck · 11/06/2025 14:51

Inspired by a post from Bridget Phillipson about Labour investing in almost 3,000 more teachers. Many on that Facebook post highlighting SEN training as inadequate, so I'm curious about views from teachers.

My own experience (as a parent, not a teacher) has been very mixed. A senco who based her understanding of neurodivergence only on the traditional, mostly male presentation of autism and who therefore believed my then 6yo dd was 'fine at school'. A brilliant Y2 teacher (who had a partner with ADHD) who took the time to understand every child and knew how to get the best out of each of them - ND or not. A brilliant Y3 teacher, who has herself got one adult child with ADHD and a younger daughter with autism who just 'gets it'. A secondary school, in which some teachers excel in understanding ADHD and applying appropriate support and management strategies, and some that still appear to question whether it's even real, let alone try to understand/ support (despite a formal diagnosis).

EHCP applications have increased and that this is unsustainable. But my theory is that if SEN training for teachers was prioritised and was comprehensive enough, this may help stem the flow of EHCP applications from parents who currently feel unheard and unsupported. Many SEN children could thrive in mainstream, with very minor adjustments that inconvenience nobody, and attendance would also improve as a result.

I'm not a teacher, but I really value education and appreciate the two or three really excellent teachers who have supported my children to do well in mainstream schools. But it strikes me that those teachers, without exception, have personal lived experience of neurodivergence that only those dealing with it every day, as a parent or family member, really understand. The only thing I can think of that may improve this situation is improved SEN training for all teachers, yet I've heard from several teachers that they've had perhaps one day which has focused solely on autism.

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ObelixtheGaul · 13/06/2025 20:34

Thelostjewels · 13/06/2025 20:25

@ObelixtheGaul I completely agree it's because it's a factory production line with no slack to make sure everyone gets it.
Once DC start to fall behind and get lower marks without supporting parent's they become disengaged and disheartened.

Then disruptive because they are not robots and cannot expect to sit still when they have no clue what's going on.
I've said before we need smaller primary school's and money chucked at it, flooded with Ed pyscs, specialist consultant Sen people training up teachers and senco and others mental health support professionals.

Then secondary would be easier.

After all a troubling % of prisoners are ilterate.

Society and school told wrote them off age 10

And then there's the absolute nonsense of forcing kids to retake English and maths instead of addressing how they got through all those years without getting to the pass level.

If these exams matter so much more now, which they do, we need to be intervening way before retakes to get kids over the line.

Thelostjewels · 13/06/2025 20:43

@ObelixtheGaul absolutely.

It's their definition of madness; Keep teaching in the same way and expect different results

And be out raged and surprised when those DC are totally switched off and bored

FrippEnos · 13/06/2025 21:21

Whatafustercluck

This is a prime example of the kind of seething resentment and cynicism I'm referring to with regards to teaching.

Just paraphrasing what you posted earlier in the thread.

WhereIsMyJumper · 13/06/2025 23:07

I see a lot of people advocating for making school less results based and more ‘free’

What about the kids who thrive in the school system as it is?

Honest question - SEND aside, how do we make sure that the majority (if not all, if it was achievable) thrive in the current education system? I don’t know what the answer is. But it isn’t this.

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