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Healthy food should be subsidised by government

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ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 19:37

just incase I say anything wrong, I have learning disabilities
I think it should be subsidised by the government so it can be cheaper and affordable for everyone.

I mean things like fresh fish, fresh berries, lean steak, salad leaves all full of nutrients that are beneficial for everyone and prevents inflammation and stress but too expensive for people to eat daily

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Koalafan · 08/06/2025 22:12

ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 22:05

Yes I am

OK, so basically what you're really saying is that you wish the textures which you enjoy, and feel nutritious, were as cheap as the textures which you don't enjoy so much?
I think neurotypical folk don't always realise the challenges of eating well as an ASD person.

noctilucentcloud · 08/06/2025 22:14

ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 22:11

No. I don’t like soup and cooking veg makes it soft. Stew makes me feel sick

Ah sorry. I don't have issues with textures but have lots I can't eat because of food intolerences. Having dietary restrictions makes life harder and more expensive hey.

ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 22:15

If I couldn’t afford healthy food (depends how you define afford, I make compromises to afford it) I would have to eat breaded burgers and a load of HP sauce like I was doing before cos I just can’t bear the texture of cheaper foods and I’m actually very surprised by all these responses that the vast majority are ok with eating things like carrots and bananas

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ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 22:16

Koalafan · 08/06/2025 22:12

OK, so basically what you're really saying is that you wish the textures which you enjoy, and feel nutritious, were as cheap as the textures which you don't enjoy so much?
I think neurotypical folk don't always realise the challenges of eating well as an ASD person.

Edited

Partly but it’s not the main point of the thread

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Whistlingformysupper · 08/06/2025 22:16

ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 22:03

It’s not even about the taste it’s about the unbearable texture/mushyness/softness/soggyness and the lower nutrient levels.

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Where are you buying your food?! Bananas in my local asda /tesco aren't mushy?! The carrots arent soft and soggy?

It sounds like you are quite a fussy eater and your preference would be to eat things like berries and more expensive stuff, but you can't afford it. Your choices are either cutback on something else to afford the pricier food, or earn more money.

Or you know, learn to tolerate the same carrots/bananas/apples the rest of us cope just fine with

ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 22:19

Whistlingformysupper · 08/06/2025 22:16

Where are you buying your food?! Bananas in my local asda /tesco aren't mushy?! The carrots arent soft and soggy?

It sounds like you are quite a fussy eater and your preference would be to eat things like berries and more expensive stuff, but you can't afford it. Your choices are either cutback on something else to afford the pricier food, or earn more money.

Or you know, learn to tolerate the same carrots/bananas/apples the rest of us cope just fine with

Depends how you define preference. It made me feel physically sick and gave me bowel issues when I forced myself eat those foods. I also developed a serious restrictive eating disorder where I would only eat a handful of things because I couldn’t bear it

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Whistlingformysupper · 08/06/2025 22:20

ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 22:15

If I couldn’t afford healthy food (depends how you define afford, I make compromises to afford it) I would have to eat breaded burgers and a load of HP sauce like I was doing before cos I just can’t bear the texture of cheaper foods and I’m actually very surprised by all these responses that the vast majority are ok with eating things like carrots and bananas

Okay it's quite obvious from this post that you have issues with food, and that's the real problem here.

Carrots and bananas are perfectly ordinary, widely consumed foods in the UK.

You keep going on about 'healthy nutritious food' but what you really mean is the particular small set of healthy foods you like, and would like to be able to eat more of, but that are expensive.

The issue isn't the price of healthy foods. It's that you don't like a lot of them

That's a you issue

Koalafan · 08/06/2025 22:21

ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 22:15

If I couldn’t afford healthy food (depends how you define afford, I make compromises to afford it) I would have to eat breaded burgers and a load of HP sauce like I was doing before cos I just can’t bear the texture of cheaper foods and I’m actually very surprised by all these responses that the vast majority are ok with eating things like carrots and bananas

I only like a very specific banana texture - it's often hard to predict, so often avoid.
I prefer a raw carrot, in fact I prefer lots of raw/cold veg - peppers, radishes, sweetcorn.
I only eat Pink Lady or Braeburn apples.
Grapes have to be crispy.
Prefer roast to mashed potatoes (and only my own mash).
I hate most meat textures but do like chicken.

pinkdelight · 08/06/2025 22:21

ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 22:19

Depends how you define preference. It made me feel physically sick and gave me bowel issues when I forced myself eat those foods. I also developed a serious restrictive eating disorder where I would only eat a handful of things because I couldn’t bear it

That sounds hard but quite specific so you must see it’s not a case for government subsidy.

ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 22:21

Whistlingformysupper · 08/06/2025 22:20

Okay it's quite obvious from this post that you have issues with food, and that's the real problem here.

Carrots and bananas are perfectly ordinary, widely consumed foods in the UK.

You keep going on about 'healthy nutritious food' but what you really mean is the particular small set of healthy foods you like, and would like to be able to eat more of, but that are expensive.

The issue isn't the price of healthy foods. It's that you don't like a lot of them

That's a you issue

Yeah it’s an issue that I have. but it’s not the main point of the thread. It was never supposed to be about me. The foods that I can bear to eat are more nutrient dense. Reduce inflammation, stress, and are just over all healthier than something like a mass produced carrot and I think that everyone should have access to a diet of nutrient dense foods but I accept the implications of that and it isn’t so black and white maybe tax payers can’t afford it etc

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Koalafan · 08/06/2025 22:22

ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 22:16

Partly but it’s not the main point of the thread

I think it's maybe more central than initially appeared. I mean that respectfully.

Koalafan · 08/06/2025 22:23

Whistlingformysupper · 08/06/2025 22:16

Where are you buying your food?! Bananas in my local asda /tesco aren't mushy?! The carrots arent soft and soggy?

It sounds like you are quite a fussy eater and your preference would be to eat things like berries and more expensive stuff, but you can't afford it. Your choices are either cutback on something else to afford the pricier food, or earn more money.

Or you know, learn to tolerate the same carrots/bananas/apples the rest of us cope just fine with

This is very ableist.
OP has already said they're autistic, and food issues are common in autism.

User37482 · 08/06/2025 22:24

This is ridiculous, I do buy my children expensive berries. But I’ve also bought apples, bananas, pears etc you don’t need tender stem broccoli, just broccoli is fine. You don’t need steak, a chicken breast or a tin of tuna is fine too. How much more do people want to offload on to other people. You can be perfectly healthy with a reasonable diet, this just sounds like “SOMEONE SHOULD PAY FOR MY ORTHOREXIA”.

I don’t think a lot of the population understands how utterly fucked we are, we are already too dependent as a society, more dependency is not helpful.

ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 22:25

Koalafan · 08/06/2025 22:23

This is very ableist.
OP has already said they're autistic, and food issues are common in autism.

I think they’re just ignorant

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noctilucentcloud · 08/06/2025 22:26

Whistlingformysupper · 08/06/2025 22:16

Where are you buying your food?! Bananas in my local asda /tesco aren't mushy?! The carrots arent soft and soggy?

It sounds like you are quite a fussy eater and your preference would be to eat things like berries and more expensive stuff, but you can't afford it. Your choices are either cutback on something else to afford the pricier food, or earn more money.

Or you know, learn to tolerate the same carrots/bananas/apples the rest of us cope just fine with

To be fair to the OP she has said she has autism. It's not unusual for autistic people to struggle with the textures of food (processed food is often easier as it's more uniform rather than an ok carrot versus a squishier one). It's not her being fussy and it's not something that's necessarily easy to overcome.

User37482 · 08/06/2025 22:26

ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 22:21

Yeah it’s an issue that I have. but it’s not the main point of the thread. It was never supposed to be about me. The foods that I can bear to eat are more nutrient dense. Reduce inflammation, stress, and are just over all healthier than something like a mass produced carrot and I think that everyone should have access to a diet of nutrient dense foods but I accept the implications of that and it isn’t so black and white maybe tax payers can’t afford it etc

Edited

Sorry “mass produced carrots” what on earth is a mass produced carrot?

ChicOliveCritic · 08/06/2025 22:26

ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 19:37

just incase I say anything wrong, I have learning disabilities
I think it should be subsidised by the government so it can be cheaper and affordable for everyone.

I mean things like fresh fish, fresh berries, lean steak, salad leaves all full of nutrients that are beneficial for everyone and prevents inflammation and stress but too expensive for people to eat daily

Totally agree! I've been saying this for years! There should be more 3 for 2s and buy one get one frees for fruit and vegetables. The fruit and veg aisles in supermarkets could also have occasional taster stands so people can try different types of fruit and veg. Most of the time people don't buy it because they don't know how to cook it or because they don't know what it will taste like.

ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 22:27

User37482 · 08/06/2025 22:24

This is ridiculous, I do buy my children expensive berries. But I’ve also bought apples, bananas, pears etc you don’t need tender stem broccoli, just broccoli is fine. You don’t need steak, a chicken breast or a tin of tuna is fine too. How much more do people want to offload on to other people. You can be perfectly healthy with a reasonable diet, this just sounds like “SOMEONE SHOULD PAY FOR MY ORTHOREXIA”.

I don’t think a lot of the population understands how utterly fucked we are, we are already too dependent as a society, more dependency is not helpful.

I personally can’t eat regular brocolli because of its texture. Chicken stinks, and I can taste the metal in a tin of tuna. But that’s just personally. I’m amazed that you don’t mind eating cheaper vegetables

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Whistlingformysupper · 08/06/2025 22:27

ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 22:21

Yeah it’s an issue that I have. but it’s not the main point of the thread. It was never supposed to be about me. The foods that I can bear to eat are more nutrient dense. Reduce inflammation, stress, and are just over all healthier than something like a mass produced carrot and I think that everyone should have access to a diet of nutrient dense foods but I accept the implications of that and it isn’t so black and white maybe tax payers can’t afford it etc

Edited

Okay so you personally have digestion and health issues.

But for the vast majority of the population supermarket carrots and bananas do not cause chronic ill health and it's wrong to imply they do.
You call carrots 'mass produced' these are not ultra processed unhealthy foods. Carrots grow easily and well in the UK, yes in large volumes but that does not render them unhealthy.
The government doesn't need to introduce subsidies because of your personal health and food issues.

User37482 · 08/06/2025 22:27

ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 22:21

Yeah it’s an issue that I have. but it’s not the main point of the thread. It was never supposed to be about me. The foods that I can bear to eat are more nutrient dense. Reduce inflammation, stress, and are just over all healthier than something like a mass produced carrot and I think that everyone should have access to a diet of nutrient dense foods but I accept the implications of that and it isn’t so black and white maybe tax payers can’t afford it etc

Edited

I’m sorry but if you are choosing foods for reducing inflammation and stress then it’s not just about what is bearable as an autistic person with issues with texture etc, it”s about food you find acceptable for other reasons.

Koalafan · 08/06/2025 22:28

ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 22:25

I think they’re just ignorant

I think a lot of people are - we're often ignorant of things we've not experienced, which is to be expected. It's not fussy eating though, it's genuine aversion to certain textures. It's also sometimes association or perceptions around food, rightly or wrongly.

Whistlingformysupper · 08/06/2025 22:28

noctilucentcloud · 08/06/2025 22:26

To be fair to the OP she has said she has autism. It's not unusual for autistic people to struggle with the textures of food (processed food is often easier as it's more uniform rather than an ok carrot versus a squishier one). It's not her being fussy and it's not something that's necessarily easy to overcome.

And its also not something that warrants government subsidies

ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 22:29

Whistlingformysupper · 08/06/2025 22:27

Okay so you personally have digestion and health issues.

But for the vast majority of the population supermarket carrots and bananas do not cause chronic ill health and it's wrong to imply they do.
You call carrots 'mass produced' these are not ultra processed unhealthy foods. Carrots grow easily and well in the UK, yes in large volumes but that does not render them unhealthy.
The government doesn't need to introduce subsidies because of your personal health and food issues.

What nutrients and level of nutrients are in a regular mass produced carrot. They look nothing like they’re supposed to.

OP posts:
noctilucentcloud · 08/06/2025 22:30

ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 22:15

If I couldn’t afford healthy food (depends how you define afford, I make compromises to afford it) I would have to eat breaded burgers and a load of HP sauce like I was doing before cos I just can’t bear the texture of cheaper foods and I’m actually very surprised by all these responses that the vast majority are ok with eating things like carrots and bananas

I feel for you OP. It must be really difficult for you. My food bill is so much more expensive because of my dietary restrictions but I'm lucky enough to be able to afford it. At some points in my life I couldn't have.

User37482 · 08/06/2025 22:30

Also OP loads of people have issues with food, I have a lactose intolerance, I really don’t expect anyone to sub that, ibs is pretty common in my family, people just adjust their eating to what is realistic, again no expectations that anyone should fix it for them. Everyone has something which would be more comfortable if someone else would just pay for it.

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