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Healthy food should be subsidised by government

226 replies

ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 19:37

just incase I say anything wrong, I have learning disabilities
I think it should be subsidised by the government so it can be cheaper and affordable for everyone.

I mean things like fresh fish, fresh berries, lean steak, salad leaves all full of nutrients that are beneficial for everyone and prevents inflammation and stress but too expensive for people to eat daily

OP posts:
Mrsttcno1 · 08/06/2025 21:06

spicemaiden · 08/06/2025 20:58

OP - do you have a city market/town market close to you? Or a Lidl? Lidos do 1.50 veg boxes at 8am

Sainsburys do something similar for £2, a mix of fruit & veg. We don’t have a local one & not sure if it’s all stores but we’ve visited friends and family in different places the last few months and saw these at 3 different Sainsburys.

HatesHorsesLovesShein · 08/06/2025 21:06

ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 20:51

So do people actually like eating cheap vegetables like soft carrots and mushy bananas? It doesn’t make you miserable?

Aldi’s organic carrots are 60p and they are delicious.

Just don’t buy mushy bananas. Bananas are outrageously cheap.

Maybe the government should put extra tax on all processed food and then use that to subsidise unprocessed food.

1SillySossij · 08/06/2025 21:07

roseymoira · 08/06/2025 19:50

No the taxpayers shouldn’t be subsidising that. You’ve listed expensive foods. Steak is expensive and not particularly healthy anyway.

Berries are expensive, but bananas, apples and oranges are very cheap. Lots of veg is very cheap. Frozen fish is a lot cheaper than fresh. Eating healthy doesn’t have to be expensive.

It's a lot more expensive per calorie than rubbishy carb s though. How much do 2000 calories in fresh fruit cost

JenniferBooth · 08/06/2025 21:07

Mrsttcno1 · 08/06/2025 21:01

We all choose where we live, and where we shop.

There are cheap & expensive options wherever you are, as I say I could choose to shop at Waitrose and pay 3x the price.

Several times ive heard "we all choose where we live" on this thread. What bollocks. Im child free by choice and live opposite a primary school. Now why would i choose that. I didnt I live in a social housing flat.

spicemaiden · 08/06/2025 21:07

Koalafan · 08/06/2025 21:03

Some people don't chose.
Some people actually live in areas poorly served by supermarkets, yet live in the areas actually producing the food.

Yup. Leicestershire is full of them. Nearest supermarket for me used to be an hour’s bus ride away with buses that were only hourly and frequently cancelled.

noctilucentcloud · 08/06/2025 21:08

Mrsttcno1 · 08/06/2025 21:01

We all choose where we live, and where we shop.

There are cheap & expensive options wherever you are, as I say I could choose to shop at Waitrose and pay 3x the price.

There will be a lot of people who have very little to no choice where they live - because, for example of caring responsibilities, or being trapped by because of rental prices, or because they're in social housing and you have to be in area, or for younger people who can't afford (or find) rentals, or for people tied for work.

As for choice in shopping, yes if you live in (or near) a city and have transport or can afford deliveries. If you live in more rural areas you may only have one supermarket. In some rural areas you'll only have a small local co-op or spar. Even if you live in a city but don't have transport there may only be one supermarket within a reasonable distance / on a bus route.

Koalafan · 08/06/2025 21:09

Overthebow · 08/06/2025 21:04

Well yes if you live in an area that only has Waitrose I expect you’d pay more. But most areas have a Lidl, Aldi, Asda or Morrisons or access to online deliveries.

Many areas don't have what you describe - numerous supermarkets and access to markets. As for Waitrose, most of Scotland, even very built up areas, don't have Waitrose!

pinkdelight · 08/06/2025 21:10

ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 20:51

So do people actually like eating cheap vegetables like soft carrots and mushy bananas? It doesn’t make you miserable?

Well you learn to cook and use herbs and spices to make it taste nice. It's not on the government to make your healthy meals exciting. Don't you think they've got other stuff to do and that people should be able to manage the basics? They're people too. Not some gods or parents who are responsible for our every choice.

Edited to add: especially in the days of the internet. It's never been easier to find a recipe or tips on cooking or - imagine! - growing decent healthy tasty food without it costing the earth

UnderratedCabbage · 08/06/2025 21:13

1SillySossij · 08/06/2025 21:07

It's a lot more expensive per calorie than rubbishy carb s though. How much do 2000 calories in fresh fruit cost

Approx 3quid?
If you go for bananas

AdoraBell · 08/06/2025 21:13

Why should food be subsidised OP ?

JenniferBooth · 08/06/2025 21:14

AdoraBell · 08/06/2025 21:13

Why should food be subsidised OP ?

Why should childcare?

pinkdelight · 08/06/2025 21:16

Not all cheap food access is about privilege. I've lived in various areas that are classed as deprived and there's a great choice of affordable meat, fish, fruit and veg in Asian stores and markets, along with the ingredients to make them tastier.

ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 21:16

AdoraBell · 08/06/2025 21:13

Why should food be subsidised OP ?

It benefits everyone to eat foods that have more nutrients

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LifeReallyIsTooShort · 08/06/2025 21:16

To be perfectly frank, the price of junk food should increase, and healthy foods should come down in price. Make sugary drinks and junk food expensive!
The junk that some parents feed their children these days is nothing short of child abuse. McDonalds is an obvious example, parents too lazy to cook a healthy meal, easier to bang a ready meal into the microwave or order a pizza.
Obesity and the obvious health conditions attached to that… for example diabetes in children is at an all time high. Later in life heart conditions, cancer, skeletal pain from carrying the excess weight around, the list is endless. And how much is it all costing the NHS… the tax payer? The amount of obese people now is getting equal to America, go back to 70’s and 80’s… most people were slim, energetic and happy, junk food was not the norm.
I don’t think for one moment that overweight people are happy, people ask me ‘how do you stay so thin? Slim is the right word if they must ask, because I am not skinny with measurements of 36” 26” 36”. One ‘friend’ calls me a ‘skinny bitch’ and curls her top lip as she says it 😳
Now let me be clear, I don’t say a word to these people about their weight, it’s not for me to give advice or criticise what they put in their mouth, it’s their life, their body, their misery, and yet they think it’s ok to question me and call me names for being slim. If I asked how did you get so fat can you imagine to outcry!!!
so yes, healthy food should be subsidised by the government and hike the prices up on junk to pay for it.
Adults are responsible for what they put in their mouths, but kids aren’t, parents need to take responsibility.

Fozzleyplum · 08/06/2025 21:16

We have a terrible food culture in this country. We all know that porridge, lentils, vegetables in season and other basic ingredients are cheap and nutritious and that we should be eating more of that type of food, and less ultra processed rubbish.

The main problem, it seems to me, is that many people are several generations on from having experience of preparing and eating this type of food. Not only dthmany people not know how to prepare it, but they simply haven't developed the palate for it because it has never been part of their experience.

I know some people live in " food deserts", full of fast food outlets and where basic nutritious ingredients are not available, but I think this is often used as a rather glib explanation. I suspect that even if healthy ingredients were available, the uptake would be low.

I don't know what the answer is, but I strongly suspect that subsidising healthy food would not make a lot of difference to our nutrition and food poverty problem.

TheKeatingFive · 08/06/2025 21:16

1SillySossij · 08/06/2025 21:07

It's a lot more expensive per calorie than rubbishy carb s though. How much do 2000 calories in fresh fruit cost

No one should be looking to get their entire calorie intake from fruit. But it can be done cheaply and healthily via things like potatoes, pulses, beans, pasta, rice, dairy, eggs, starchy veg, fish (tinned or frozen).

TheKeatingFive · 08/06/2025 21:19

pinkdelight · 08/06/2025 21:16

Not all cheap food access is about privilege. I've lived in various areas that are classed as deprived and there's a great choice of affordable meat, fish, fruit and veg in Asian stores and markets, along with the ingredients to make them tastier.

Exactly, immigrant/second generation families generally eat way better than a lot of native Brits.

UnderratedCabbage · 08/06/2025 21:19

Well if we are going for the premiums I would like fresh tuna steaks to be subsided because the frozen and tinned just ain't it.

Koalafan · 08/06/2025 21:20

pinkdelight · 08/06/2025 21:16

Not all cheap food access is about privilege. I've lived in various areas that are classed as deprived and there's a great choice of affordable meat, fish, fruit and veg in Asian stores and markets, along with the ingredients to make them tastier.

It is privilege to be able to access those.
Alas, nothing like that here.

Rosesaredaisy · 08/06/2025 21:21

Basic food isn’t really that expensive if you have plenty of shops and don’t like in a food desert.
Most basic vegetables are cheap. Carrots, onions, swede etc. Basic meat like chicken is too cheap (that was living creature) any mince etc.
Fruit apples etc but berries frozen are cheap.
It’s the treats and convenience foods that are really expensive. But cooking, planning buying takes time and head space.

Cynic17 · 08/06/2025 21:24

But it's not the Government that pays, it's taxpayers. So why should the majority of adults pay for this?

Mrsttcno1 · 08/06/2025 21:25

ByJadeExpert · 08/06/2025 21:16

It benefits everyone to eat foods that have more nutrients

But unless you don’t work or pay any tax, then all that’s going to happen is you still pay for it, just not at the till.

Any money the government spends to “subsidise” this would also have to come in, any extra spending means extra tax to be paid, so for anyone who pays tax you’re not actually any better off. You might be paying less for your carrots but you’re paying more in tax to get those cheaper carrots. There isn’t a money tree.

pinkdelight · 08/06/2025 21:27

Koalafan · 08/06/2025 21:20

It is privilege to be able to access those.
Alas, nothing like that here.

Move to Nelson, it's cheap as chips! But I don't think anyone would say it's a privilege. As PP said, people make their choices. It's not on the government to step in with a steak voucher just because someone can't suss how to make a decent curry on a budget. www.bbc.co.uk/food/collections/budget_curry

derxa · 08/06/2025 21:27

FalseSpring · 08/06/2025 20:00

Not anymore. Since Brexit there has been a huge shift towards paying for environmental improvement and little subsidy going on direct farm production. This year the Government, without warning, pulled the whole Sustainable Farming Incentive so many who hadn't already put their claims in have been left with nothing.

I agree that the average farmer makes very little - most of the profits go to the supermarkets.

You’re quite right.

TheKeatingFive · 08/06/2025 21:27

I don't think anyone in the UK genuinely lives in a food desert. It's a US term (and even then, if you look at it the definition, it's far less dire than it sounds).

The UK is extremely well served for supermarkets and has some of the widest and cheapest online delivery services in the world.

This is not the problem here.

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