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I felt like I got shut down in a weird way by my DIL

582 replies

TheWisePearlRaven · 08/06/2025 01:29

I'm wondering if I dropped the ball with my DIL. I took my son to a baseball game recently because he’s been under a lot of pressure with work and he’s an awesome dad and I wanted to give him a bit of a break and my DIL felt like I should've offered to watch the baby so they could've gone on a date. She mentioned feeling like she's always solo-parenting and I didn't help them out as a couple. She said she felt she supports my son by raising my granddaughter saving the family money and giving my son piece of mind that she is in good hands with her mother and it’s not easy work doing this 24/7 as my son gets to leave his job but a SAHM never gets to “clock out” not to mention she handles all of the household tasks of the daily running of the household another less thing my son has to worry about it and she felt I overlooked that and only saw my son’s contributions to the family.

Now she's asked me to watch the baby next week for some me-time. Should I have thought of that date-day opportunity for them? How can I better support them both? I feel awful that my DIL feels I was just supporting my son while overlooking her as that wasn’t my intention at all. I guess as the grandmother I should be looking at it through the lens of supporting the family unit as a whole and not just focus in on supporting my son. I’m glad my DIL felt comfortable enough with me to express her hurt feelings and concern rather than harboring resentment towards me.

However AIBU to be a bit annoyed deep down that a kind gesture I did towards my son individually was basically shut down?

OP posts:
DeftLemonTraybake · 08/06/2025 12:52

the7Vabo · 08/06/2025 12:47

I think work, for example a corporate job has some advantages, chats with colleagues etc that I missed when I wasn’t working. But at the end of the day it’s work not amusement park. You are accountable to others for your time.

When my baby was 6 months I had freedom I could go to coffee shops, baby cinema, lovely walks, I could stay in my PJs all day if I wanted. And I got to hang out with my baby, see all his milestones. It was a gorgeous time in my life. I understand there are situations like PN, additional needs, high needs baby, baby who never sleeps etc.
But minding your own average 6 month old is a happy time.

Me too.

I did it for a year and like you say, there were harder days but also a lot of cafes, baby groups, play dates etc.

Then my DH took over when I went back to work.

If he'd have come to MN complaining that my Mum took me out for the day while he parented and my Mum wasn't recognising his SAH contribution to our family, he'd have had his arse handed to him 😆

justasking111 · 08/06/2025 12:53

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 12:12

What?! This is CRAZY! I heard it all. It’s isolating to expect that after having the baby alone for the majority of 5 days of the week that you would have your husband’s support during the very limited time he has on thr 6th and 7th day and that you aren’t home alone again doing all the child caring and not only that it’s her HUSBAND and her young baby’s FATHER. Of course she would expect that time to be spent bonding with his young child that is his immediate family and where his responsibility lies is with his child and wife. If he goes out on the weekend leaving his wife at home when does he have time to bond with his child and wife? And don’t tell me on the weekday evenings bc again if he is working they many hours I’m sure he is coming home later than usual prob having dinner showering and going to bed. Hell a baby that young may already be in bed by the time he gets home. So why is his mom getting his attention before his wife and child?

Read the ops posts. They get grandparents babysitting three weeks out of four.

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 13:04

Phobiaphobic · 08/06/2025 10:05

Your son is at fault here. He said it was okay. Your dil should have said how she felt to him and they should have sorted it out between them.

People are right that it's sexist. If a man had offered to take your son out, no one would have batted an eyelid.

Why would no one bat an eyelid you think if a man offered to take him if the reason being given it’s for him being recognized and not his wife. Surely it would bother her too if his father recognized him and not her. Or is because women assume women support other women so another women taken her husband out throws a monkey wrench in the plan in her mind?

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 13:09

ThisRoseWriter · 08/06/2025 10:01

It wasn’t about ‘good fathering’ it was about him struggling with things.

People struggle and their mental health is impacted and that doesn’t need to be put into a sliding scale. I do a majority of childcare and a majority of house things and life admin. My DH has a very stressful job and some days he is absolutely broken. We support each other, it shouldn’t be a oneupmanship. If OP sees her son is really down and wants to take him out to cheer him up then she doesn’t have to defend that. She admits she didn’t recognise that DIL was struggling and if DIL has a problem with her husband she needs to sort that out with him. OP already babysits at least once a month. Wanting to spend an afternoon with her son isn’t out of order, it’s a mother wanting to spend some time with her son.

Edited

But the afternoon is during their very limited time her son has to bond with his wife and very young child and we know darn well MIL is aware of their family schedule so why pick the one day her DIL has support with her child at home and her son has time to bond with his child? That’s his first priority bc his wife is home alll day with the baby alll week and MIL wants to take her support away the one day she has it. Yeah I would be living if I was DIL. Also why doesn’t MIL realize that being with his wife and seeing his young daughter would cheer him up? Does she think her son would want to be away from his family during this limited time. When I was a young mom I would find it very telling and strange if during our limited time together he chose an afternoon with his mother over spending time with his child not even me but his young child bonding with her.

BIossomtoes · 08/06/2025 13:12

Are you still with the father of your children @ForBusyZebra?

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 13:14

DeftLemonTraybake · 08/06/2025 10:47

DIL sounds like hard work.

I'll bet she never thanks your DS for working so she can be a SAHM. It all seems very one-sided.

And I bet the DS never thanks his wife for staying home with their child washing his mind about who is caring for their child and saving money on child care fees enabling him to work these extra hours. It’s women that are overlooked and taken for granted not men

the7Vabo · 08/06/2025 13:15

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 13:04

Why would no one bat an eyelid you think if a man offered to take him if the reason being given it’s for him being recognized and not his wife. Surely it would bother her too if his father recognized him and not her. Or is because women assume women support other women so another women taken her husband out throws a monkey wrench in the plan in her mind?

You have used language like “swooping in”, “date” and “role of the wife” to describe the DH’s mother taking him out for the day because he as experiencing work stress.

People don’t talk about men like that but we do talk about other women like that including unfortunately MIL.

If FIL said to his son he was taking him out for the day due to work stress no one would described it as a “date”, or say “how odd”.

DIL might talk to her husband about it but I can almost guarantee she wouldn’t take it up with her FIL. It’s the lucky MILs who get that.

If I told me FIL I had an issue with him talking his aok out for a match he’d have a great laugh at my expense.

the7Vabo · 08/06/2025 13:18

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 13:14

And I bet the DS never thanks his wife for staying home with their child washing his mind about who is caring for their child and saving money on child care fees enabling him to work these extra hours. It’s women that are overlooked and taken for granted not men

We don’t know that. If I had decided to stay at home with my children it would have cost us a lot of money. We’d had ended up in mortgage arrears.

It’s not 1950s, women have the option to work and most hold households need two salaries now.

I don’t know about that US but in Ireland most childcare is now heavily subsidised so it doesn’t make financial sense for even low earners not to work.

ThisRoseWriter · 08/06/2025 13:30

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 13:09

But the afternoon is during their very limited time her son has to bond with his wife and very young child and we know darn well MIL is aware of their family schedule so why pick the one day her DIL has support with her child at home and her son has time to bond with his child? That’s his first priority bc his wife is home alll day with the baby alll week and MIL wants to take her support away the one day she has it. Yeah I would be living if I was DIL. Also why doesn’t MIL realize that being with his wife and seeing his young daughter would cheer him up? Does she think her son would want to be away from his family during this limited time. When I was a young mom I would find it very telling and strange if during our limited time together he chose an afternoon with his mother over spending time with his child not even me but his young child bonding with her.

It was a one off? It’s not every week. I’m a mother and you know what, I bloody love time away from my kids and husband with my parents on the one or two occasions I have managed it. And my husband has supported me spending that time alone with them. And I would and have support him doing the same with his. Why is it weird to want a bit of time away from your kids and partner every now and then? It was one afternoon.

So weird that people are odd about it. If the OP was a woman spending one afternoon with her daughter you can guarantee the answers would be totally different.

DeftLemonTraybake · 08/06/2025 13:31

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 13:14

And I bet the DS never thanks his wife for staying home with their child washing his mind about who is caring for their child and saving money on child care fees enabling him to work these extra hours. It’s women that are overlooked and taken for granted not men

I mean, you don't know that AT ALL.

Same as you don't know if DIL is thanking the DS for working, financially providing for the family so she can stay home.

Or is it just women that are working (at home) in this scenario and should be thanked?

And why?

The misandry on this site is insane.

I'm guessing they both decided to have a DC and both decided how to manage it financially?

You're acting like the DIL is making a huge sacrifice and he's lucky to get to work so she can stay home?

Is he a partner and an equal parent or a source of finances for the DILs desire to have a DC and stay home?

You make it sound like you think it's the latter.

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 13:35

MorrisZapp · 08/06/2025 11:15

These people aren't children, they're married adults. If your son thinks going out with his mother on a Saturday night is fine then the DILs issue is with him, not her.

Like hell will I be consulting anyone else before treating my son just because he's married. If my offer doesn't suit, he can tell me.

Anyone is his son’s wife. She trumps mother as far as priorities in his life and this someone else is her DIL. Like you said they aren’t children so why is son being infantilized by getting a treat for doing what millions of ppl do everyday? What about DIL’s recognition for bringing up their child? She overlooked that. They are married her DIL is family. Like hell you seem to very VERY strongly about this. His immediate family consists of wife and young child MIL sucks for taking her son away from his home responsibilities with the already very little time they have together. If this was my MIL I would feel cross with her for the implications of her son needing rewarded but not me and for daring to cut into our family time.

DeftLemonTraybake · 08/06/2025 13:40

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 13:09

But the afternoon is during their very limited time her son has to bond with his wife and very young child and we know darn well MIL is aware of their family schedule so why pick the one day her DIL has support with her child at home and her son has time to bond with his child? That’s his first priority bc his wife is home alll day with the baby alll week and MIL wants to take her support away the one day she has it. Yeah I would be living if I was DIL. Also why doesn’t MIL realize that being with his wife and seeing his young daughter would cheer him up? Does she think her son would want to be away from his family during this limited time. When I was a young mom I would find it very telling and strange if during our limited time together he chose an afternoon with his mother over spending time with his child not even me but his young child bonding with her.

It's a few hours.

He's at home every evening and every weekend otherwise.

The DC is 6 months old, why are you assuming a few hours is taking away 'bonding time' when he's been bonding every single day for 6 months?

Are you one of those controlling DILs who think your DP should not be allowed any time away (apart from the work he does to allow you to stay at home) from your 'little family'?

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 13:41

whatcanthematterbe81 · 08/06/2025 11:39

Most responses are bullshit. A mother can take her son out whenever she bloody well wants to. And if it’s about the wife needing a break that’s on him to arrange maybe the next day or whatever. Christ alive it’s so sad a mother can’t treat her son without backlash

That’s a bit extreme whenever she bloody wants to? Without considering the impact on his wife and child that’s BS!! His main immediate family and responsibility is now being a father and husband not being MIL’s son. So you’re saying it’s ok no matter how inconvenient it may be for her DIL or how much it would take away from her son’s limited time with his family to take just him out? As a MIL it’s about realizing your son isn’t a single man anymore and his little family comes first and thinking in the context of supporting them as a family unit and not engaging in behaviors and demanding your son’s time that would take away from that is paramount. Otherwise you’re just a nightmare in disguise. It screams entitlement I can do whatever with my son he is my SON MY SON MY SON fuck his wife and child and their feelings and how it impacts them. What if her son said mom the limited time I have at home I want to spend with my wife and child would she then have the right to say well you’re my son I’m taking you out anytime I damn well please. You talk about the DIL being entitled but that attitude of being owed time with her son is just as entitled. If your DIL texted you that what would you say.

ThisRoseWriter · 08/06/2025 13:43

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 13:41

That’s a bit extreme whenever she bloody wants to? Without considering the impact on his wife and child that’s BS!! His main immediate family and responsibility is now being a father and husband not being MIL’s son. So you’re saying it’s ok no matter how inconvenient it may be for her DIL or how much it would take away from her son’s limited time with his family to take just him out? As a MIL it’s about realizing your son isn’t a single man anymore and his little family comes first and thinking in the context of supporting them as a family unit and not engaging in behaviors and demanding your son’s time that would take away from that is paramount. Otherwise you’re just a nightmare in disguise. It screams entitlement I can do whatever with my son he is my SON MY SON MY SON fuck his wife and child and their feelings and how it impacts them. What if her son said mom the limited time I have at home I want to spend with my wife and child would she then have the right to say well you’re my son I’m taking you out anytime I damn well please. You talk about the DIL being entitled but that attitude of being owed time with her son is just as entitled. If your DIL texted you that what would you say.

This is a huge overreaction to that persons comment.

DeftLemonTraybake · 08/06/2025 13:45

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 13:41

That’s a bit extreme whenever she bloody wants to? Without considering the impact on his wife and child that’s BS!! His main immediate family and responsibility is now being a father and husband not being MIL’s son. So you’re saying it’s ok no matter how inconvenient it may be for her DIL or how much it would take away from her son’s limited time with his family to take just him out? As a MIL it’s about realizing your son isn’t a single man anymore and his little family comes first and thinking in the context of supporting them as a family unit and not engaging in behaviors and demanding your son’s time that would take away from that is paramount. Otherwise you’re just a nightmare in disguise. It screams entitlement I can do whatever with my son he is my SON MY SON MY SON fuck his wife and child and their feelings and how it impacts them. What if her son said mom the limited time I have at home I want to spend with my wife and child would she then have the right to say well you’re my son I’m taking you out anytime I damn well please. You talk about the DIL being entitled but that attitude of being owed time with her son is just as entitled. If your DIL texted you that what would you say.

Ha I knew it!!

See my PP.

You saying 'his little family' equals you being a controlling DIL who doesn't want your DP to have any time away from you and definitely not time with his family who will likely pick up on your controlling behaviour and then you'll complain about your ILs.

Having a DC with someone doesn't mean you get to isolate them from their family.

That's controlling and abusive and sorry, but you could split up any day and he'll need and want his family support.

It's not all about you.

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 13:47

CiaoMeow · 08/06/2025 12:16

It reminds me of that old rhyme:

A daughter is a daughter all her life
A son is a son until he takes a wife

By no means right across the board or all the time, but definitely a nugget of truth.

How is this the case here? Her son literally ditched the limited time he gets with his wife and young daughter at home to be pampered to and catered by his mother. Seems like if anything he views himself as a son before a husband and father if anything

BIossomtoes · 08/06/2025 13:51

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 13:47

How is this the case here? Her son literally ditched the limited time he gets with his wife and young daughter at home to be pampered to and catered by his mother. Seems like if anything he views himself as a son before a husband and father if anything

Are you going to answer my question?

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 13:52

DeftLemonTraybake · 08/06/2025 13:45

Ha I knew it!!

See my PP.

You saying 'his little family' equals you being a controlling DIL who doesn't want your DP to have any time away from you and definitely not time with his family who will likely pick up on your controlling behaviour and then you'll complain about your ILs.

Having a DC with someone doesn't mean you get to isolate them from their family.

That's controlling and abusive and sorry, but you could split up any day and he'll need and want his family support.

It's not all about you.

Edited

wtf is wrong when saying little family? That’s what they are. And yes sorry his baby daughter that he gets little time with along with his wife is his immediate family and should be his most important family. that’s what marriage is forming and creating your own family. MIL honed in on their limited time together and we all know she damn well knows her son’s schedule and time is limited with his child and wife and instead of taking them all out she says hey son why don’t just you and I go out despite that this is the time for your own family
unit and forget this leaves her DIL with more work. Give me a break with the be needs to be rewarded by his mother for doing what every human does. I’m sick of men being elevated and treated for something millions of people do everyday. It’s such a double standard where women are just assumed and taken for granted for their role in the family.

thank god my MIL was never like this and recognized that her son’s wife and child came first and she recognized us both together.

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 13:57

DeftLemonTraybake · 08/06/2025 13:45

Ha I knew it!!

See my PP.

You saying 'his little family' equals you being a controlling DIL who doesn't want your DP to have any time away from you and definitely not time with his family who will likely pick up on your controlling behaviour and then you'll complain about your ILs.

Having a DC with someone doesn't mean you get to isolate them from their family.

That's controlling and abusive and sorry, but you could split up any day and he'll need and want his family support.

It's not all about you.

Edited

Not have any time away. Please this man works clearly tons of hours they are a part most time. Yes if I was the DIL I would damn well expect when I’m raising up our daughter 5 days a week and barely seeing my husband and watching him bond with our daughter that our precious little family time on the weekend would be spent together and seeing extended family (friends/other family) would be done all together

Codlingmoths · 08/06/2025 13:59

maddening · 08/06/2025 12:20

Having had a child this is s tad fucking dramatic- perhaps in the first few weeks post partum or with several v young dc or dc with v challenging needs this is warranted but the dil as a capable grown woman with a single 6mo child is fully capable of arranging her day to suit herself without the dh for a single day.

If it were me I could conceive of many lovely days that did not require my dh - she could even arrange her own dps to have the baby while she goes out herself.

But she does this 5 days a week already. It’s not unreasonable to expect to not have to the remaining 2 days.

ThisRoseWriter · 08/06/2025 14:03

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 13:47

How is this the case here? Her son literally ditched the limited time he gets with his wife and young daughter at home to be pampered to and catered by his mother. Seems like if anything he views himself as a son before a husband and father if anything

It was ONE time?! Do you begrudge his wife going out with th her friends or her mum? She’s not with her ‘little family’ or is that okay because she’s a woman?!

whatcanthematterbe81 · 08/06/2025 14:05

@ForBusyZebrago have a cup of tea love, you seem stressed

DeftLemonTraybake · 08/06/2025 14:06

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 13:47

How is this the case here? Her son literally ditched the limited time he gets with his wife and young daughter at home to be pampered to and catered by his mother. Seems like if anything he views himself as a son before a husband and father if anything

Jesus.

Are you okay?

You're projecting all over this thread.

His Mum taking him out for one sport game in 6 months is pampering him?

Come on, be honest. Is it just your MIL you hate because your DP loves her? Or is it all men you hate?

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 14:07

DeftLemonTraybake · 08/06/2025 13:40

It's a few hours.

He's at home every evening and every weekend otherwise.

The DC is 6 months old, why are you assuming a few hours is taking away 'bonding time' when he's been bonding every single day for 6 months?

Are you one of those controlling DILs who think your DP should not be allowed any time away (apart from the work he does to allow you to stay at home) from your 'little family'?

Why is there so much hate on the phrase little family. If this man is working long hours chances are he gets home late his child man already be in bed his wife burnt out sleeping or about to go to bed. You know that’s not the same thing as real family quality time. Yes when I was a young mother weekends I felt were reserved for us to bond together bc during the week that didn’t happen much and when we saw extended family we saw them together

DeftLemonTraybake · 08/06/2025 14:09

ForBusyZebra · 08/06/2025 13:57

Not have any time away. Please this man works clearly tons of hours they are a part most time. Yes if I was the DIL I would damn well expect when I’m raising up our daughter 5 days a week and barely seeing my husband and watching him bond with our daughter that our precious little family time on the weekend would be spent together and seeing extended family (friends/other family) would be done all together

Like I said 'little family' is a RED FLAG for a controlling and abusive woman who can't bear the thought that her DP has a family that love him and you want to separate them because YOU are more important.

It's not even about the DC, it's about YOU and your abusive behaviour. You just happened to get pregnant so now use that DC to control and isolate your DP.

Despicable.

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