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To tell DD I love her in front of DSDs?

88 replies

Cooktop64 · 07/06/2025 20:15

Hi. I’m probably gonna get flamed for this, but that’s okay.

DSDs are 17 and 18; I’ve known them since they were 10 and 11. DD is 4. We don’t spend a tonne of time all together, but we’ll do holidays, the occasional dinner out or movie, etc. I haven’t had a close enough relationship with DSDs in order to feel it’s appropriate to tell them I love them (even if I feel that way), but I tell DD I love her multiple times a day.

Is it totally wrong to tell DD I love her in the presence of DSDs, in this situation? I’ve done it a few times without thinking and it’s been awkward.

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Cooktop64 · 08/06/2025 04:47

Seamoss · 07/06/2025 20:33

After you've told your DD you love her and you feel the awkward vibe, why not just speak about it to the room in general.
"huh, it's feels a bit awkward to be telling DD that I love her and not say it to both of you. I know you're older and we don't live together, and I'm not your mum, but I hope you know how much I care about you"

That’s great advice. Thank you!

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Cooktop64 · 08/06/2025 04:49

Maddy70 · 07/06/2025 21:35

I'm amazed you don't tell them you love them. I tell my friends all the time. I fostered a teenager for a few months. Now an adult We always tell each other we love each other.
Surely you must have a connection after all this time ?

It’s been a bit of a rocky road

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Cooktop64 · 08/06/2025 04:54

healthybychristmas · 08/06/2025 00:22

I think next time I would have to say I count myself so lucky to have three girls in my life that I really love. Otherwise given the way their mother is I think it's a bit mean to say something so nice to your daughter when there is an absence of anyone saying something similar to them.

I really feel for those girls. Is your husband affectionate with them?

That’s how I saw it too, a bit uncouth given the circumstances. A little lack of reading the room on my part.

DH is affectionate towards them as much as they allow him to be. He gives them hugs (when they’re around) and tells them he loves them, and other kind things, gives them lots of gifts, is always wanting to spend time with them, can’t say no to any favor they need from him…

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JMSA · 08/06/2025 06:49

I wouldn’t. It’s cold and insensitive. Presumably you have plenty of opportunity to tell your child you love her when not in earshot of her older siblings.
Honestly, how could any adult with self-awareness and empathy not see this?

1SillySossij · 08/06/2025 06:53

Cooktop64 · 07/06/2025 20:20

It’s just a feeling in the room after I’ve said it. I’m sure there’s tangible indications but I can’t name them; to me, it just seems like awkward “energy.”

Well, there's your answer then!

myplace · 08/06/2025 06:56

Keep modelling healthy loving parenting. One say they will have children and may be better equipped as a result.

Model healthy arguing and discipline as well!

Chocolateorange22 · 08/06/2025 07:06

I'd say it depends on the situation. I was nearly 19 when I first met my step mum. Would have been weird her telling me she loved me. Nearly 20 years on she doesn't. However I did see her notibly relex the once when we were talking about my children. I mentioned that they were her grandchildren because although she weren't my mum she'd been in my life for so long that she was a large part of my life. I wonder if she always felt worried about overstepping the boundary.

In your situation if you tell DD that you love her in earshot of the DSD I'd then mention that you love all of your family including the bonus ones. What they do with that is their choice but if they have any inner worries about their family situation then it can allay them without directly being told and it being awkward.

Endofyear · 08/06/2025 07:38

whatcanthematterbe81 · 08/06/2025 01:22

Bloody hell, how sad. I tell my kids I love them probably ten times a day. Not in an exaggerated way, big declarations or anything but I can’t help but tell them to be honest. OTT??? Not at all.

It's not sad at all - do you think your children feel more 'loved' because you say it 10 times a day? I think when it's overused it loses all meaning - it's just something you say, it's performative. My parents didn't say it all the time but I felt very loved and never doubted that they loved me.

Bumdrops · 08/06/2025 07:46

Endofyear · 07/06/2025 23:12

I think it's a bit OTT to be telling your 4 year old you love her multiple times a day 😳 maybe your DSDs think it's a bit odd too? I would say 'bye darling, love you, have a good day' when dropping them off at school and 'night night, love you' when kissing them goodnight but I didn't tell my kids I loved them multiple times every day!

I tell my dog loads of times a day that I love him- cos I do !
and same with DD !

if I had step kids, and they were a part of my life, I like to think I would grow to love them and tell them, as a significant adult figure in their lives that I value care, and love them -

maybe the weird vibe is not that u are telling their step sibling that you love them
but that you don’t communicate this to them … ?

NannyOgg1341 · 08/06/2025 07:56

Lavender14 · 07/06/2025 23:15

Is there a limit to this? I tell ds frequently throughout the day. I grew up in a house where it was never said so I want to make sure ds grows up never questioning it. I imagine it's the type of thing that's better said too much than too little.

Same for me, I know my parents love me but they didn't really say it. We have a good relationship but I don't remember them particularly warmly. I tell my DCs all the time- if anything I worry they'll remember me as a bit cringe 😂

Annascaul · 08/06/2025 08:02

Endofyear · 08/06/2025 00:18

I grew up in a household where it was said occasionally, such as bedtime but not multiple times a day - we knew we were loved fiercely by our parents though - through their actions not just words. They were very physically affectionate. I just think if it's overused it just becomes something you say and loses all meaning really.

Agree.
Op makes it sound a bit performative, really, rather than something that happens organically.

RareGoalsVerge · 08/06/2025 08:10

If you feel that you do actually love your DSDs but it feels awkward to say it to them for the first time, then look for opportunities to work it into a longer sentence where it isn't the focus, eg when there's a disagreement about something you can say "your father and I both love you dearly and want what's best for you but we are concerned that..." (continuing to explain your position on whatever the disagreement is). And try to have a conversation later about how positive you feel about how they are now part of your family although you understand that you aren't their actual mum, you still feel maternally towards them, and that affection doesn't detract from or lessen the love between them and their actual mum because there's no such thing as too much love.

My mum has never said the words "I love you" to me, but I know without a doubt that she does because of her actions. The words aren't the key part of that bond.

justgoandgetpizza · 08/06/2025 08:12

I have a four year old and I don’t tell him I love him all that often. In all honesty I think it can become meaningless and lose its value and purpose. Given the age difference I don’t think it’s necessarily unreasonable but it could quite easily come over as something unspoken as well as spoken and that’s the part I’d be sensitive about.

Theextraordinaryisintheordinary · 08/06/2025 08:16

I’d say tell your daughter and your step daughters you love them all as often as you can. It can only do good. For your step daughters to hear it will mean so much esp if birth mother is a bit rubbish. Sound like they need to hear it more.

MiddleClassProblem · 08/06/2025 08:19

Cooktop64 · 08/06/2025 04:47

That’s great advice. Thank you!

I would just probably say “and just so you know I love you both too” rather than saying I care about you a lot. To me that feels like it could be the relative version of friend zoning.

If you feel you so love them, it’s ok to say it.

I’m a needy kid who grew up in a house where I wasn’t loved (it was said occasionally but surrounded by abuse) so I just think it’s a positive thing when genuinely meant.

jeaux90 · 08/06/2025 09:32

Keep doing it OP. It’s important the DSDs grow up knowing that this is normal and they don’t model cold hearted when and if they become parents themselves.

StMarie4me · 08/06/2025 09:45

Seamoss · 07/06/2025 20:33

After you've told your DD you love her and you feel the awkward vibe, why not just speak about it to the room in general.
"huh, it's feels a bit awkward to be telling DD that I love her and not say it to both of you. I know you're older and we don't live together, and I'm not your mum, but I hope you know how much I care about you"

This. Coupled by your actions and attitude towards them. They will know if you love them.

Sunshineandgrapefruit · 08/06/2025 11:56

Do you not love your step sons? Just say it! You could address the room first ' I love all of you guys so much' etc to ease yourself in....

Cooktop64 · 08/06/2025 16:19

Sunshineandgrapefruit · 08/06/2025 11:56

Do you not love your step sons? Just say it! You could address the room first ' I love all of you guys so much' etc to ease yourself in....

I’m sure I would love my step sons if I had any

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DaisyChain505 · 08/06/2025 16:21

You should be able to tell your biological daughter that you love her whenever you want.

funinthesun19 · 08/06/2025 17:27

Endofyear · 07/06/2025 23:12

I think it's a bit OTT to be telling your 4 year old you love her multiple times a day 😳 maybe your DSDs think it's a bit odd too? I would say 'bye darling, love you, have a good day' when dropping them off at school and 'night night, love you' when kissing them goodnight but I didn't tell my kids I loved them multiple times every day!

I’m the complete opposite of you and very happy to tell my children multiple times a day that I love them. ❤️😊

CeeceeBloomingdale · 08/06/2025 17:33

Endofyear · 08/06/2025 07:38

It's not sad at all - do you think your children feel more 'loved' because you say it 10 times a day? I think when it's overused it loses all meaning - it's just something you say, it's performative. My parents didn't say it all the time but I felt very loved and never doubted that they loved me.

I 100% agree Endofyear. People often say it to hear it back, forcing the interaction. You can not say it but show it in many ways, I think it's far better that people feel secure and loved than hear meaningless words. I work in a call centre and people often say I love you at the end of the call as they are on automatic pilot. It's hardly a meaningful phrase then.

tinyspiny · 08/06/2025 18:20

whatcanthematterbe81 · 08/06/2025 01:25

Seems abit robotic to only say at bedtime or drop off. Sometimes I just look at my kids and say “ooh I love you so much” don’t need to wait until they’re falling asleep like it’s scheduled!

That’s not quite what I meant as obviously you can randomly say it at other times but it does seem a bit much to be saying it multiple times a day surely you show people you love them you don’t need to actually say it . Sounds like the OP doesn’t say it or show it to the step children .

whatcanthematterbe81 · 08/06/2025 18:21

@tinyspinyi show them and tell them. It’s really quite normal 😳

tinyspiny · 08/06/2025 18:24

@whatcanthematterbe81 well I’m not alone on this post in thinking that it’s a bit performative to be saying I love you multiple times a day so we will have to accept that people are different .