Tommy Robinson asked to leave a restaurant because staff felt uncomfortable serving him…

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… AIBU to enjoy this?!

If you spout objectionable views, don’t be surprised if people object to you!

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/tommy-robinson-kicked-out-hawksmoor-london-b1231594.html

Why were they eating in London anyway? I thought London was a no-go ghetto ruled by Sharia law ?

Again, a purity test rather than addressing the content.

It’s the message, not the messenger.

It all depends on why they refused service and whether their decision was lawful or not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitchens%27s_razor

Hitchens was a Tory who left the party because it wasn’t right leaning enough for his taste.

Yes, but there is nothing to suggest on what we know of this incident that Hawksmoor did not act lawfully. If there is more to it, then doubtless it will come out.

Just look at the atrocities happening in Nigeria as we speak. Oddly enough the BBC and other mainstream media are avoiding those stories like the plague. This is why platforms like X are so important.

I've seen Muslims smashing Christians heads in with baseball bats and gunning down entire villages, children included, in the last couple of weeks. No screeching pink haired lunatics swing flags around London for this though.

You cannot show any evidence for any of that, simply because it did not happen.
This was in my home town and I know some of the people involved and I can tell you that the boy did NOTHING WRONG

If that opinion can be backed up with fact it is not racist. In my experience homophobia is a bad habit that most muslims have (which makes sense, assuming that they believe what they claim to believe)

100% agree with you

Robinson libelled that boy and lost. He then substantially repeated his allegations in his film which amounted to contempt and he was jailed.

Thanks for femsplaining but I am very familiar with the case.

Hence why I quoted it here.

No idea what hitchens razor is but quoted on here alot so must be an intellectually tired quote that someone got from the Guardian

"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence"

It is mainly credited to Christopher Hitchens, hence Hitchens' Razor. But it can also be traced back to a latin phrase, apparently:

"Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur ("What is asserted gratuitously is denied gratuitously").

So the parents and school staff are liars.....

@inkognitha no I get that it was a joke

Unfortunately no one is perfect like John Lennon, stunning song " imagine" when he treated his first son dreadfully and was apparently nasty about a disabled child.

I can't find silenced but TR spoke to the Oxford Union which in astonished about so I will watch that.

@Menopausalsourpuss Corbyn was for Brexit from the labour front abroad point of view

Can you link to a reliable source quoting them saying anything along these lines?

If you can't go out for a meal or a drink because you exercised freedom of speech then you don't really have freedom of speech do you?

Next you'll be saying that Jews in nazi germany had freedom of religion... just it came with the consequence of dying in a concentration camp.

Has he been banned from every restaurant in London? I must have missed that.

Beliefs are not a protected characteristic. I am sure you could refuse to serve hate preachers.
i would refuse to serve Andrew Tate

Honestly all I can take from this thread is that it shouldn't be allowed to refuse service to someone no matter what, and doing that's a slippery slope, quite possibly illegal, morally wrong and oppressive and to allow it risks a two tier society.

But forcing someone to interact with and serve someone who makes them uncomfortable (and actually has that bit been explained? For all anyone knows a member of staff or their family could have been a victim in the past) is absolutely fine because they're in a service job.

Slippery slopes and two tier society indeed.

Neither is the right.

I think it seems likely that he was kicked out for his views, and it seems likely to me that his views are legally protected in the UK (or will turn out to be if it is ever put to the test).

I see no reason to assume that there will be full open honesty from the restaurant.

In July 2021 Robinson was found guilty of libel and ordered to pay £100,000 in damages and legal costs, which he attempted to avoid by declaring bankruptcy. An injunction was also granted to stop him from repeating the libel.

Could be worse, I'm sure he's had a few people rub their dirty arse and balls on his plate in secret when they saw it was him.

But you can’t infer that and sue. That is not enough in law. It may be likely in your view, but that simply isnt enough where there needs to be some evidence.