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cardibach · 06/06/2025 21:00

DeSoleil · 06/06/2025 20:58

Do you remember the Northern Irish bakery that was fined for refusing to bake a cake celebrating gay marriage because of the owner's religious beliefs? They were told by the court that the law states if you are offering a public service you cannot discriminate.

Hope the restaurant loses customers over this pathetic stance.

You can not discriminate against a protected characteristic. In that case, sexual orientation. Being an aggressive, violent, law breaking racist isn’t a protected characteristic.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 06/06/2025 21:00

DeSoleil · 06/06/2025 20:58

Do you remember the Northern Irish bakery that was fined for refusing to bake a cake celebrating gay marriage because of the owner's religious beliefs? They were told by the court that the law states if you are offering a public service you cannot discriminate.

Hope the restaurant loses customers over this pathetic stance.

Actually it was found in favour of the bakers.

12doublerolls · 06/06/2025 21:01

Not sure how TR is a racist? The majority of his friends are black or Asian 🤷🏻‍♀️ he was there reporting on the trail because the media news was not (I wonder why 🙄) he f any other journalist had done it I bet they wouldn’t be called racist or charged with contempt and thrown in jail. He’s documentary on X called silenced was worth the watch and really opened up a lot of people’s eyes. He has a lot of supporters and a lot of people have done a u-turn on their opinion of him. You have to ask yourself why he constantly is trying to show the world what is going on when the stakes are so high. His family have had death threats from terrorists organisations yet he is still here trying to get his message out when he could just scoop his family up and go live anonymous somewhere. I don’t think he is a racist, I think he is warning people of the threat this country is under with the invasion that this country is seeing with the boat people.

BIossomtoes · 06/06/2025 21:01

DeSoleil · 06/06/2025 20:58

Do you remember the Northern Irish bakery that was fined for refusing to bake a cake celebrating gay marriage because of the owner's religious beliefs? They were told by the court that the law states if you are offering a public service you cannot discriminate.

Hope the restaurant loses customers over this pathetic stance.

What’s that got to do with a restaurant refusing to serve someone whose presence is detrimental to its reputation?

Jujujudo · 06/06/2025 21:02

Ponoka7 · 06/06/2025 17:32

But do we live on a country were that happens? I despise SYL but, it could have easily have been JK Rowling based on how trans people are treated globally.
If what he has said is within the law, then he shouldn't be denied service.

I’m agreeing with you - I was being passive aggressive

MerlinsBeard1 · 06/06/2025 21:03

BusMumsHoliday · 06/06/2025 20:46

But only people of a particular religion wear a burka. So if the burka was the only reason you were refusing service that would be denying service based on a protected characteristic.

If you had a universal policy refusing service to people with face coverings, you might need to prove it wasn't indirectly discriminatory. Just like denying service to people who refused to show their hair.

For the millionth time on this thread, being a white nationalist isn't a protected characteristic.

A burka is not a protected characteristic it is an item of clothing. Refusing service over an item of clothing happens all the time. Many clubs wont allow people in wearing tracksuit bottoms or trainers for example.

Jujujudo · 06/06/2025 21:03

Echobelly · 06/06/2025 17:34

I'm Jewish, where are we not being allowed access into and what has it got to do with this? 🤔I don't particularly want to see being Jewish being aligned with being Tommy Robinson thank you very much.

I’m not aligning Jews with him. But Jews are being targeted and intimidated because of politics. I was making a point.

Westfacing · 06/06/2025 21:03

DeSoleil · 06/06/2025 20:58

Do you remember the Northern Irish bakery that was fined for refusing to bake a cake celebrating gay marriage because of the owner's religious beliefs? They were told by the court that the law states if you are offering a public service you cannot discriminate.

Hope the restaurant loses customers over this pathetic stance.

They won't - Hawksmoor is a deservedly very popular and successful group of restaurants in London.

They can survive without Robinson supporters.

cardibach · 06/06/2025 21:03

12doublerolls · 06/06/2025 21:01

Not sure how TR is a racist? The majority of his friends are black or Asian 🤷🏻‍♀️ he was there reporting on the trail because the media news was not (I wonder why 🙄) he f any other journalist had done it I bet they wouldn’t be called racist or charged with contempt and thrown in jail. He’s documentary on X called silenced was worth the watch and really opened up a lot of people’s eyes. He has a lot of supporters and a lot of people have done a u-turn on their opinion of him. You have to ask yourself why he constantly is trying to show the world what is going on when the stakes are so high. His family have had death threats from terrorists organisations yet he is still here trying to get his message out when he could just scoop his family up and go live anonymous somewhere. I don’t think he is a racist, I think he is warning people of the threat this country is under with the invasion that this country is seeing with the boat people.

The majority of his friends aren’t black or Asian.
Others weren’t reporting because you aren’t allowed to report on court cases while they are ongoing (or only within very strict guidelines) hence he risked collapsing the case.
A lot of people haven’t done a U-turn on their opinion. Most know he’s a violent little racist.
Anyone talking about ‘invasion’ is a bit suspect.

Dangermoo · 06/06/2025 21:04

cardibach · 06/06/2025 21:00

You can not discriminate against a protected characteristic. In that case, sexual orientation. Being an aggressive, violent, law breaking racist isn’t a protected characteristic.

Nobody is saying [insert name calling here] he is being protected on that basis. Having a political affiliation, if you like philosophy is a protected characteristic but in the case of a restaurant, he's not afforded that protection. It's different in the work place.

Jujujudo · 06/06/2025 21:04

Morningsleepin · 06/06/2025 19:58

Where has that happened?

In the US several times, including 3 restaurants and a hairdressers. It happened to me in London after a protest when I went to order coffee and the barista was asking everyone if they would show their Palestinian flags to get served.

MerlinsBeard1 · 06/06/2025 21:05

cardibach · 06/06/2025 21:03

The majority of his friends aren’t black or Asian.
Others weren’t reporting because you aren’t allowed to report on court cases while they are ongoing (or only within very strict guidelines) hence he risked collapsing the case.
A lot of people haven’t done a U-turn on their opinion. Most know he’s a violent little racist.
Anyone talking about ‘invasion’ is a bit suspect.

Look up the definition of the word. There is nothing suspect about it, it is a fact.

Jujujudo · 06/06/2025 21:05

Yellowshirt · 06/06/2025 20:17

@Jujujudo . We are also living in a world watching Israel starve people to death and killing innocent people.
The world should be coming together against Israel even if it means war

What’s that got to do with anything I wrote? other than to prove my point..

cardibach · 06/06/2025 21:06

MerlinsBeard1 · 06/06/2025 21:05

Look up the definition of the word. There is nothing suspect about it, it is a fact.

That’s a bit racist.
It’s not a fact.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 06/06/2025 21:06

12doublerolls · 06/06/2025 21:01

Not sure how TR is a racist? The majority of his friends are black or Asian 🤷🏻‍♀️ he was there reporting on the trail because the media news was not (I wonder why 🙄) he f any other journalist had done it I bet they wouldn’t be called racist or charged with contempt and thrown in jail. He’s documentary on X called silenced was worth the watch and really opened up a lot of people’s eyes. He has a lot of supporters and a lot of people have done a u-turn on their opinion of him. You have to ask yourself why he constantly is trying to show the world what is going on when the stakes are so high. His family have had death threats from terrorists organisations yet he is still here trying to get his message out when he could just scoop his family up and go live anonymous somewhere. I don’t think he is a racist, I think he is warning people of the threat this country is under with the invasion that this country is seeing with the boat people.

I don’t think he is a racist, I think he is warning people of the threat this country is under with the invasion that this country is seeing with the boat people.

This is far right speak. Seeing foreigners as a threat and an invasion.

12doublerolls · 06/06/2025 21:07

cardibach · 06/06/2025 21:03

The majority of his friends aren’t black or Asian.
Others weren’t reporting because you aren’t allowed to report on court cases while they are ongoing (or only within very strict guidelines) hence he risked collapsing the case.
A lot of people haven’t done a U-turn on their opinion. Most know he’s a violent little racist.
Anyone talking about ‘invasion’ is a bit suspect.

I’m afraid you’re wrong.

BIossomtoes · 06/06/2025 21:07

MerlinsBeard1 · 06/06/2025 21:05

Look up the definition of the word. There is nothing suspect about it, it is a fact.

Why did it get Suella Braverman in such trouble then? It’s a well known and understood racist euphemism.

loulouljh · 06/06/2025 21:08

what objectional views was he spouting in the restaurant?

Jujujudo · 06/06/2025 21:08

Jujujudo · 06/06/2025 21:05

What’s that got to do with anything I wrote? other than to prove my point..

Also- we are living in a world where Syria eradicated 20 Druze families last month, where Pakistan killed hundreds of Hindus, where Afghanistan removed a woman’s right to speak in public, where the US makes abortions a criminal offence, where Russia has killed over 40 thousand Ukrainians. But sure, feel free to only stand up against Israel.

cardibach · 06/06/2025 21:08

12doublerolls · 06/06/2025 21:07

I’m afraid you’re wrong.

I have been told that before on this thread by someone with very similar views to yourself. I’m not.

MerlinsBeard1 · 06/06/2025 21:09

cardibach · 06/06/2025 21:06

That’s a bit racist.
It’s not a fact.

It is a fact.

There is nothing racist about pointing out up to a thousand illegal immigrants entering daily over a prolonged period of time equates to an invasion.

Throwing out labels like that at people bears no weight when you clearly don't know the definition of that word either!

cardibach · 06/06/2025 21:10

loulouljh · 06/06/2025 21:08

what objectional views was he spouting in the restaurant?

He didn’t need to be. Though he may have been.
He’s a known violent racist. A business is within its rights to ban him because of the risk he poses both in terms of potential behaviour and potential reputational damage.

12doublerolls · 06/06/2025 21:10

MiloMinderbinder925 · 06/06/2025 21:06

I don’t think he is a racist, I think he is warning people of the threat this country is under with the invasion that this country is seeing with the boat people.

This is far right speak. Seeing foreigners as a threat and an invasion.

Thousands of fighting age men with no women and children? 🧒 They are seeking asylum why aren’t they bringing their family’s?
this is an invasion and the sooner the soft folk understand the better.

cardibach · 06/06/2025 21:11

MerlinsBeard1 · 06/06/2025 21:09

It is a fact.

There is nothing racist about pointing out up to a thousand illegal immigrants entering daily over a prolonged period of time equates to an invasion.

Throwing out labels like that at people bears no weight when you clearly don't know the definition of that word either!

Nope. Not an invasion. That’s a racist trope.

Velmy · 06/06/2025 21:11

I have a good Tiny Tommy story from (many) years ago, when he was still knocking about with the EDL (or whatever they were called back then) lot.

MN probably not the best place for it in full detail, suffice to say it involved them being very racist on a 'march', getting chased into a pub where they thought they could get out the back door, not realising that it'd been bricked up, and being saved from an absolute hiding by a group of Muslim lads and some guys from our gym.

A sadder bunch you'll never see 🙈

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