Sophie Ellis-Bextor concert. Ugh

[IOnlyWantSexMoneyPowerAndRevenge]

Saw her last week. Good fun. I missed the opportunity to wear my glittery Christmas dress though.

We all know she has legs that go on for days and likes to show them off (so would I if I had them!). At various points during the show she had to bend over (dropped something and so on). Every single time, at least one man wolf whistled. One man started and then others thought it was OK to join in.

I mean, really? They weren't sat near me or I would have said something. It pissed me right off. We were there to sing and dance to a bit of disco and grotty men insist on making their thoughts knoen about how attractive she is. As if anyone cares.

Most of the audience were 50+ which somehow made it even more grim.

Yuk just yuk.

Wouldn't most of us! Ive never been in that position so I cant imagine it suddenly being the case now Im hurtling towards my 50s unfortunately.

This makes sense.

I didn't know straight men wolf whistling at women was a thing anymore. I thought it had been breed out of them.

50 year old heterosexual men at a S E B concert seems weird in itself.

“Again I think it comes back to how different people view wolf whistling and how aggressive it appears to them.”
that’s the thing
Wolf Whistling can be like perceived as innocent or threatening and I understand that
but I think it’s different to do this at a concert as opposed to in the street
nobody asks for any abuse,and we are free to wear whatever we like and should be able to do so without fear.
However, at a concert I just think it’s more of a vocalised appreciation, rather than anything sinister. But I understand what others feel and hate the though of anyone being intimidated

I agree sexual harassment is diabolical. On the other hand the day heterosexual men stop casting their eyes over attractive woman there will be a blue moon in the sky. It's a natural instinct, especially if they are dressed provocatively.

God how I hate the term 'dressed provocatively.'

Why?

Why? Are 50 year old, straight men not allowed to like pop music?

Fucking hell. Women really have no hope if this is the call coming from inside the house.

She doesn't 'perform with her knickers on show'. She wears sequinned leotards, short dresses etc, because she has fucking amazing legs and by time time we hit our mid 40s most of us know how to dress to accentuate our best features. She wears tinsel capes, sequins and glitter eyeshadow - classic dressing for the straight male gaze obviously 🙄

Even if she did wear just her pants though that doesn't make old fashioned sexual harassment or 'she was asking for it' comments ok.

So you don't believe going out to clubs wearing next to nothing should ever be described as 'dressed provocatively' A lot of people would disagree.

Of course they can, but do you genuinely know many knuckle dragging wolf whistling types that go on their own to SEB concerts?

If you get a woman doing a "sexy" bit at Eurovision the crowd will go wild and scream, do you really think it's straight men screaming and sexually harassing female celebrities though?

What are you "provoking" though?

Do you understand what 'provocatively' means?

If you concentrated on reading and not being patronising, you'll see that the other people on here who went to different shows didnt see that.

Your comment is not witty and you've made yourself look rather foolish by suggesting that she did some sort of special "whoops Ive dropped my coat" performance for one night only.

Those men want to be careful. Didn't she once murder someone on the dancefloor?

Intending to arouse sexual interest or desire.

People go to clubs to dance. They also often go in the hope of 'pulling' (is that term still used?), and dress accordingly. Dressing in a provocative manner does not mean you are asking to be sexually harassed but it can mean you are intending to attract someone.

Firstly, who said the men wolf whistling were there on their own?

Secondly, it’s not just ‘knuckle dragging’ type men who wolf whistle.

I’ve not been single for a loooong time. I dress up when I go out because I like dressing in short skirts, dresses, heels etc.
I’m not trying to attract anyone! I just like dressing that way.

Do men not dress to attract people?

Why not use the phrase 'dress attractively' rather than 'dress provocatively'?

FYI dress provocatively does not mean to dress intending to cause sexual desire. It means to dress with intension of provoking men, traditional with the subtext that you were drawing trouble on yourself.

Without falling into stereotypes...

A lot of the people were very smart. I was surprised at things like twinsets, little jackets and shirt and tie. They didnt look like they were going to a concert. Nice to see the effort though!

Most of the audience was made up of women. There was a big chunk of men in sequins and SEB t-shirts. However a lot of the men weren't. There was a group of men in the merch queue who were wearing normal t-shirts and had obviously come together. They were being a bit "laddy" so now I think of it, I wonder if they were at least some of the whistlers.

I hate wolf-whistling, but would like to speak with performers/choreoghraphers to ask what types of responses they hope to elicit when costumes/dance moves are decided.
Are they expecting cheers, whooping, dancing, whistling or do you just close your eyes and enjoy the music?

Yes, men dress to attract people.

I had no idea the word is only reserved for women, nor anything about the subtext.

Really? Have you ever in your life heard of a man being 'dressed provocatively'??

Sam Smith

His is to shock though rather than look good/attract someone I think?