To agree with increasing tax and more benefit cuts to pay for defence

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I was surprised to hear that Labour is to spend more on defence. We really do need to with the threats from Russia and run down of weapon stocks because they have been given to Ukraine. All of Europe needs to wake up. But I think they realise this.

Maybe defense can figure out how to stop illegal migration?
Two for the price of 1deal, navy can patrol the waters and stop dingies from reaching shore.

Why am I not surprised that you think cutting benefits is ok?

And why should our young recruits put their lives on the line for our rubbish decision makers? Your eyeroll though, smh.

Surely, war is another by product of inept negotiators and politicians? It is not to be glorified with our servicemen and women being sacrificed at the altar of sub intellectual politicians!

Can see defense contractors and weapons manufacturers rubbing their hands in glee though.

Your reasoning is really simplistic.

Funding defence properly does not have to mean cutting benefits for the disabled.

It is purely a political choice to do that and frankly immoral.

Labour could just as well put in place a wealth tax and also get money out of fat cat utility companies with a windfall tax.

Anyway cutting disability benefits is going to achieve nothing as all it will do is increase the social care, health and housing bill instead because without adequate benefits more people with disabilities/long term health conditions will get even sicker than they already are, be unable to pay their rent/bills and end up homeless and requiring housing from local councils or to go into care homes (at tax payers' cost) because they can no longer live independently.

I am always shocked at how economically illiterate so many people seem to be in this country...include the chancellor.

We wouldn’t need so much for defence if we stopped sticking our noses into everyone else’s business.

They certainly have not “stirred shit” in Ukraine.

Message to Macron- How about your police stopping them getting in the dinghies, or you’re not fishing in our waters, and you also won’t get millions for standing on the beach, waving them Goodbye.

Sticking our noses into everyone else’s business? Do you mean keeping our country safe?

Any excuse to crowbar the old agenda in there….😒

Seriously?

That’s very naive and also largely untrue at present

The country is in the state it is and we’re busy supporting countries like Ukraine and Israel, causing the need for higher defence. Can’t wait to get on that plane and never have to think about this dump again.

Whole adult life wasted waiting for this place to have a competent gov, no more

Yes, seriously.

Well, as you are leaving none of it will be your concern anymore.

If this Government goes ahead with its, frankly, diabolical plans, a lot of Councils are going to see an increased demand for Social care help, which they will not be able to afford. It will not be a good move for them. I hope that they see how disastrous such a move will be, and shelve these proposed changes.

It’s my concern right now though, isn’t it? Whilst my higher rate taxes go to this BS instead of important things like education

They ARE cutting benefits for the severely disabled. The new 4 point rule affects a lot of people who have very several disabilities and it's not a small cut - it's a complete removal of all disability benefits, over £1k a month.

8 points on daily living and 8 in mobility mean you are disabled. 12 on each is severely disabled. I have 15 and 14 and no 4s. I've never been able to work and can't leave the house unaided. I can't even give myself some of my medications and need help just to administer them. I'm set to lose everything and be told to job search.

This is before we get into the appeals process. It's well known that the assessments lie about you and under score you consistently. But if you managed to get 12 points despite the underscoring you were adviced by everyone not to bother appealing as it's very stressful and there would be no point as you already got the max. This will apply to many of the people set to lose money and since their assessments were years and years ago the body of evidence used will be gone/useless/out of date now.

My late OH with a terminal lung disease who was hooked up to an oxygen machine 24/7 didn't score any 4s.

If we are under attack, it's the WC kids who will be expected to risk their lives, why should they? Child poverty matters. If the King wants to retain his sovereignty, let him give up some of his billions. This country is becoming obscene. I didn't agree with the magic money tree we gifted to the Ukraine though. I don't believe that the Russians are, our enemy. I don't believe that we have to have people living in poverty to be safe. Liverpool's transport system is a disgrace considering what a major city we are. We'll have scraps thrown because of Everton's new stadium.

Wow emoji needed for this!

"I want the review implementations to go as fast and as deep as required."

bit simplistic there @SummerEve

Meanwhile a vast majority of the proletariat are struggling with the effects of brexit (thanks Cameron), rising prices and deep benefit cuts for our most vulnerable!

Who knew this current labour government would be as rubbish as the tories.

Shame on them, actually relates to most of the politicians currently in office, whichever their allegience.

Or use your words. Time will tell. But it was nice to see that Zelensky suddenly managed to stop playing dress up and found a suit for the Pope's funeral.

Russia was clear about what would happen if we continued to push NATO in the Ukraine (officially the most corrupt country in Europe btw)

And then there’s this
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odesa_clashes

This isn’t about keeping our country safe. This is about the ukraines strategic location, power, land and resources. We’re just going along for the ride

Benefits are not cut to the bone at all. I am sometimes astounded to read on here what benefits people are on. They would need to be earning £50k plus if they were self supporting. The whole system needs to be overhauled.

I think there is a mix of people getting benefits; those who genuinely need them, then there are those who know how to play the system. People can deny this all they like, I come from a family of such people.

A single childless person on benefits will be on way less than NMW. What can we cut back on?