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to accept a job thats morally questionable?

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jobdrama101 · 03/06/2025 20:29

A brief bit of background. Im a qualified nurse, i work in a very high pressure physical role, for 12 hours shifts. I LOVE my job, i love the pressure and the pace. However, i have some health issues, im off sick at the minute. Im awaiting some result and some further referrals. The health issue mainly affects mobility, otherwise physically i am fine, but the most likely result is going to be a condition that will affect my ability to do the job i love. Having discussed it with my manager, they have heavily implied returning if i get the diagnosis is going to be difficult, and i am in full agreement, as upsetting as this is. This job was my goal from childhood, im now mid 40's but only qualified 4 years ago, it took me a long time to achieve my dream.

Less physical nursing jobs do exist, however, the job market for nursing is, well, basically none existent. The best, most suitable for my health needs, earning enough money to support myself and my children, is a pip assessor role. But, everyone has read the negatives attached to this position.

I need a job though, not working is not an option. This is a hybrid role, that involves mostly work from home, around 5 days per month in a centre doing face to face assessments, which is more than manageable as even in person, there isnt a lot of walking around.

My thinking at the moment is its temporary, or could be, there are clinic based jobs, practice nursing, maybe even research, there are other positions, but there are none available for me to even apply for. I feel it is most sensible to just accept i cannot go back to the job i love, and rather than remain off sick indefinitely, do this job whilst looking for a suitable role.

Ive asked friends and family, and im getting mixed views. Some saying its a solid plan, others saying morally, they would never ever do this job.

OP posts:
TheGoddessFrigg · 04/06/2025 08:40

I had the nicest most interesting nurse PIP assessor. He gave me loads of useful advice and tips, and I was awarded it straight away.
You sound exactly the type of person who should be doing the job- eventually. Get the advice of your union and ride out the sick leave process first

arcticpandas · 04/06/2025 08:47

ayecarumbarumba · 04/06/2025 06:18

I agree there are major problems in Social Work and the NHS but there aren't human rights violations of the same magnitude. People aren't ending up starving to death as a result of decisions made by social workers and NHS employees from what I understand (although do correct me if I'm wrong). It will get much much worse if the current proposals get through.

Children wind up neglected/abused with scars for life. If they're not beaten to death in the most extreme cases.
I do think it's a relevant comparaison.

LoveSandbanks · 04/06/2025 08:49

I have two young adults with adhd and autism. They’ve had assessments for dla and pip and I’ve never found the assessors anything but kind and professional.

I genuinely think that the poor assessors are the exception rather than the norm. Go for it.

Funnywonder · 04/06/2025 08:53

As soon as I read the title, I knew which job you meant. How to spot someone with experience of the system! Someone has to do the job. Ultimately it’s an administrative decision as to whether a person gets PIP. Yes, it’s based on the assessor’s report, but all you can do is be clear and truthful. The assessor we encountered was not very nice, certainly when it came to her interactions with us. I won’t go into detail because we’ve all heard the stories, but the hardest thing was receiving the report and seeing how she had told blatant lies. I don’t know if this was through lack of knowledge/inexperience or if she was just a cynical person who was internally eye rolling at everyone she encountered. The decision was changed significantly on mandatory reconsideration when we produced evidence of her inaccuracies. In all honesty, if the decision maker had bothered to compare her report with the information already provided, he/she would have spotted this right away. As I said, be clear and truthful in your report. And treat the person with dignity and kindness. You sound like a good person.

Funnywonder · 04/06/2025 09:02

springintoaction321 · 04/06/2025 05:39

I tried my best to pass the test to become a PIP assessor (nurse here as well) and I'll just warn you it was incredibly hard. You have to be able to type very fast whilst someone is talking..... I had done a secretarial course years ago, and can touch type fairly quick but failed the test !

Decided it wasn't for me.. but good luck with it. I think it is quite a pressured job, and although 'sedentary' I think you'd be kept on your toes.

This is interesting! One of the most distressing aspects of the appointment I attended with a close family member, was the fact that the assessor was constantly tap tapping away and barely seemed to be listening in the moment. It made me very stressed and it wasn’t even my assessment! I think it’s a particular skill to be able to enter information and listen at the same time. I definitely couldn’t do it (and neither could the person who we encountered if her fabricated report was anything to go by!)

ayecarumbarumba · 04/06/2025 15:59

arcticpandas · 04/06/2025 08:47

Children wind up neglected/abused with scars for life. If they're not beaten to death in the most extreme cases.
I do think it's a relevant comparaison.

Are Social Workers under pressure to lie to deny these families help though or are they the ones fighting to get scarce resources allocated when they're clearly needed? It's not a job I would much like to do and it must be harrowing but the key for me is whether or not you're expected to act dishonestly to ensure people don't get the help they very clearly need. If that is the case then yes, I would say working in that area of social work would not be a good use of time or skills and would ultimately be likely to do harm.

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