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Step kids have moved out, DH is still funding them

308 replies

Clayless · 02/06/2025 16:35

Hi, apologies if this gets long.

DH and I have been together 8 years, he is half British, half . He has 2 children, twins who are 17. I have 2 children who are 14 and 12, together we have a 6 year old.

Until last summer DHs children were living in France, for various reasons they have come to live with us and do their last 2 years of school. While in France DH would see them on all their holidays including a long stint with his parents in the summer and he paid for them to attend an international school. Their mother passed away when they were 13, but they continued to live in France with their maternal grandparents as they didn’t want to move and he couldn’t move due to work and our child together.

Anyway when they arrived here we immediately enrolled them in independent schools, we shifted rooms about including having my 14 and 12 year old share as we only have a 5 bedroom house. We were excited to have them and have enjoyed having them live with us.

However, things seemed to take a turn after Christmas, I think they struggled with our more structured approach to parenting vs the more laissez faire style they were used to. Little things like knowing where they were at any given time, no boyfriends/girlfriends in their room. They only turned 17 in the middle of May.

His DD was easier than his DS. She immediately got a part time job saying we didn’t give her enough money and she hated being in the house with us. She works Saturdays and Wednesday evenings in a restaurant. Through this she met a 22 year old lad and they started dating. We said under no circumstances could he stay in her room but on several occasions we’d come home from work to him and her cuddling in her bed. She would also lie to us and say she was sleeping over at a friends but actually be at his.

His DS on the other hand would swear at us, tell us we were controlling etc. He would leave his room a total mess, he refused to do any chores, occasionally skipped school and just generally had no respect.

Now about 5 weeks ago (so still 16). We had taken my children and our little one to see my parents for the day, his 2 didn’t want to come. We got back and everything more or less was gone from his DD’s room. All her clothes, her expensive keyboard we bought, her expensive tennis rackets, books everything. When we asked his DS where she was he said she’d decided to move in with her 22 year old boyfriend. He refused to give an address and said “don’t worry I’ll be out of here soon too”. Eventually we were able to talk to her and she said she would still go to school but she wasn’t coming back to live with us as it was depressing and made her miserable. She kept pointing out she was 16 and could legally move out. We have been able to find out she’s living with her boyfriend in a flat share (seriously doubt the landlord knows she’s there or her age). DH was devastated but has decided not to force it.

2 weeks later his DS moved in with his maternal cousin (sleeping on his sofa) and is refusing to come back too.

DH is insisting he will still pay for their school, and is sending them money for the tube/clothes/food. He said the only thing he won’t be providing for them is money for rent as if they can’t afford that they can always come back here. He said he also won’t be asking them to return any of them items they took.

AIBU to think if they want provided for they should live here and if they are happy to no longer live here then we shouldn’t provide for them anymore?
We are struggling to make everything work financially and it feels like he doesn’t see that our child together and my children are now going without so his kids can through a strop!

OP posts:
RedSetter78 · 02/06/2025 17:00

YABVU, judging by your attitude towards them it’s no wonder they’ve moved out! My DD is 21 and I still happily help her out - do you really think that in this day and age a part time job on a 17yo’s wage is really going to fund all necessities?

Moral of the story: don’t get into a relationship with someone if you aren’t prepared to accept that their children matter just as much as your own.

RedToothBrush · 02/06/2025 17:00

YABU

THEY ARE SEVENTEEN.

Bigfatsunandclouds · 02/06/2025 17:00

He should have gone to France and persuaded them to move with him, that he would love and support them and do whatever they needed to support them when their mother died. I'm utterly appalled that he didn't do that - he should have gone over every week until they moved with him. How much did he see them in the 3 years they were with GPs? Did you all go over and see them showing them love and care? When they came over did you show them what a loving and accepting family looks like?

They obviously needed and expected more freedom, why didn't your DH listen? But to answer your question, of course he should be paying for them and doing everything in his power to get them back home.

ButteredRadishes · 02/06/2025 17:01

Clayless · 02/06/2025 16:50

It’s complicated actually, they split when they were tiny, at that point the whole family was living in Canada. After the split they all moved to the uk, where mum only stayed for 6 months before taking the kids back to France.

So why did he choose to start a second family in the UK?

Iwantitidontwantit · 02/06/2025 17:04

OP, in step parent situations I always think a fair rule of thumb, is would you like your own flesh and blood to be treated the same way.

If you died, and your DH got remarried, what would you like him to do for your child? If it's cut them off financially at the age of 16 because they're difficult (and it's not a wonder they are), then go ahead and suggest it.

But I'd guess the chance of you thinking like that for your own flesh and blood is pretty low

MissPobjoysPonies · 02/06/2025 17:05

I’m genuinely lost for words. As this is your spin on the story, I dread to think what their side is. All I can say is your friends are judging you - and you are not coming off with grace.

Swap DHs children for your two and see what you come up with.

Throughout this your DH is seeing a different side of you too. Just remember that. Have either of you asked if they’d just prefer to go home to their GP’s? Your DH can then rebuild his relationship with them from there. Whilst still providing for them.

waterrat · 02/06/2025 17:08

They are children - his children. He needs to work on getting them to come back home. He should of course continue supporting them - they are vulnerable and at risk !

urghhh47 · 02/06/2025 17:09

This is a really really easy one. YABVVVU!

Franpie · 02/06/2025 17:09

Of course he needs to pay for their education and everything else. Regardless of where they are living. They lost their mum 3 years ago, who else is going to pay?

Also, at their age, beyond having to tidy up after themselves etc, they really shouldn’t need strict rules. You don’t need to know where they are all the time, and no boys in bedrooms during the day is also a little weird in such a busy household at 17. I get the no sleeping over, but they should be able to hang out privately and not have to sit in the sitting room with the entire family.

Next year they’ll be 18 and hopefully off to uni. They need their independence now.

Focus on how to repair relationships and get them back under your roof as that will set them up best educationally. I’d be especially worried about the DD. 17 is way too young to have to be dependent on a man (that isn’t your dad).

WinSomeandLoseSome · 02/06/2025 17:09

I wonder what their side of the story is. You clearly didn't make them feel part of the family. What a sad life they have had. Frankly he should have gone to France when their mother died. He put his relationship with you over his kids' happiness. Never a good look.

Barrenfieldoffucks · 02/06/2025 17:10

ButteredRadishes · 02/06/2025 16:44

Okay. So they live in France away from their Dad (why did dad fuck off and live in a different country?) Then when they were 10, his dad had another child... Then they were 13, their mother died. Dad still didn't do anything... So they lived with GM for 2-3 years...and then we're uprooted to live with the (basically) absent father in a different country to live with the woman and children he chose over them.

Hmmm , I wonder why they're struggling... 🤔

Oh, and now Step mum thinks they should somehow magically be able to fund themselves at 17 ... Whilst having no mother, a father that owes them she'd load of love and time and no other options of somewhere to live.

Edited

Agreed. Amazing.

saraclara · 02/06/2025 17:11

Good grief.

Those poor kids, losing their mum when just hitting their teens, living with grandparents and then brought over here and living with you and a whole different set of rules. No wonder they're damaged.

And now you think your DH shouldn't pay for the rest of their schooling? That's outrageous.

waterrat · 02/06/2025 17:12

this is just bizarre OP. You need family therapy or something - they are his children just as your little six year old is.

They are vulnerable, unhappy and troubled - both he and you should be doing everything in your power to rebuild connection and get them to come home - before the 17 yr old girl ends up preganant apart from anything else.

He should have prioritised them when their mum died - your joint child had you ! They had no parent at all.

Idratherreadabookthanks · 02/06/2025 17:12

He should have gone to France and persuaded them to move with him, that he would love and support them and do whatever they needed to support them when their mother died. I'm utterly appalled that he didn't do that - he should have gone over every week until they moved with him. How much did he see them in the 3 years they were with GPs? Did you all go over and see them showing them love and care? When they came over did you show them what a loving and accepting family looks like?

Absolutely this. France isn't a million miles away & it's easy to get over there either by plane or via the tunnel.

If this had been my children, I'd have been going over every couple of weeks & would have fought for them to come to live with me. The option of living with a parent always trumps living with grandparents.

I feel for these poor youngsters. They are very young &, now, it seems parentless.

Pinty · 02/06/2025 17:13

Of course he should provide for them they are his children and he is their only parent.
I feel extremely sorry for them. They lost their mother and were uprooted to live in a country they are not used to, to live with people they don't really know with very different rules from what they have been used to. They will have felt lost . It sounds as though you just expected them to slot into your lives and accept your rules without challenge. That was never going to happen.

ByBlueMoose · 02/06/2025 17:14

Butchyrestingface · 02/06/2025 16:59

He said he also won’t be asking them to return any of them items they took.

Of course he won't. He doesn't have a leg to stand on there. You GAVE them stuff as presents so now they OWN those items.

AIBU to think if they want provided for they should live here and if they are happy to no longer live here then we shouldn’t provide for them anymore?

YABU.

Btw, what is it about all these hated stepchildren threads recently always featuring kids from France?

They come over here in their boats, take our jobs, steal our women ...

...setting fire to sheep and stinking of garlic

Nailedier · 02/06/2025 17:14

WinSomeandLoseSome · 02/06/2025 17:09

I wonder what their side of the story is. You clearly didn't make them feel part of the family. What a sad life they have had. Frankly he should have gone to France when their mother died. He put his relationship with you over his kids' happiness. Never a good look.

Frankly he should have gone to France when their mother died

To live there? I think that's a bit unrealistic. I agree that these kids have had a very tough time and some definite repair needs to happen, but sometimes shit situations are just shit situations - the fact that they had to move countries is unfortunate, but not a massive failing on their dad's part.

BetterWithPockets · 02/06/2025 17:16

HeddaGarbled · 02/06/2025 16:51

Good grief, of course YABU. Their mum died, their dad left them behind to start a new life and family in another country. Of course they’re troubled.

And now you want to haul them out of school, take their stuff off them and leave them penniless?

You’ve managed to get rid of them. The least you can do is accept they need financial support from their father.

I agree OP is being unreasonable but I read it that their mum died AFTER the twins’ dad and the OP had started a relationship, had DC together etc.
Still absolutely think the DP should be paying for his DC…

dontgetmestartedwillu · 02/06/2025 17:16

@Clayless OK so the circumstances does mean the father was not really all to blame. He and their mum lived in Canada, then UK, split up and mum took them to France. Can't have been easy for anyone.

But I'd expected your DH to be more involved once their mum died, poor kids.

Also, much too many rules for these kids who are now almost-adult (almost - they still need support!), but I guess you've not been there yet with your kids. You'll see - kids will slowly want to become more independent and you clearly haven't hit the full teens yet with your two so I guess you wouldn't understand where they're coming from. You'll see eventually! ;)

But you are unreasonable about the father cutting them off at this point. They've had a tough enough life already, having been moved from pillar to post.

Holdonforsummer · 02/06/2025 17:17

I know everyone is different but for a bit of perspective: My daughter is nearly 16 and we let her upstairs with her boyfriend. I figure if they are going to do it, they will find a way and I’d rather they were safe, comfortable, under my roof and using protection than having it off in a car or in the local woods. I think you have to ask yourself what you are trying to achieve by being so strict with them? A good, healthy, open relationship full of honest communication is my goal.

outerspacepotato · 02/06/2025 17:17

Doesn't your husband have paternal responsibility as in yes he is legally responsible for supporting them, until they're at least 18? And morally for longer as they've lost their mom?

You sound like a Grinch stepmom. You resent them and every damn penny he spends on them. What did you think his daughter was going to do with her stuff, let you pawn it or sell it for money for yourself? Do you expect this dude to find your kids at his minor children's expense? That's wild.

You've run his children off so now he's stuck with you. Be happy, babe. That's what you wanted.

The French step kid thread thing is a recurring theme here.

Do you work full time?

Sofiewoo · 02/06/2025 17:18

We are struggling to make everything work financially and it feels like he doesn’t see that our child together and my children are now going without so his kids can through a strop!

I don’t see how your children would be any different financially.
They are his children and he continues to financially support them, particularly as they aren’t even adults yet.

WhySoManySocks · 02/06/2025 17:20

You both sound awful to those poor kids. You say your DH was paying for them as if though that is some weirdly generous gesture; most of us pay for our kids and most sole parents have them 24/7.

And your sentence “we only have a 5 bedroom house” is frankly obnoxious. You also had 5 kids between you.

Catofthesouth · 02/06/2025 17:20

Do you work?

ByBlueMoose · 02/06/2025 17:20

dontgetmestartedwillu · 02/06/2025 17:16

@Clayless OK so the circumstances does mean the father was not really all to blame. He and their mum lived in Canada, then UK, split up and mum took them to France. Can't have been easy for anyone.

But I'd expected your DH to be more involved once their mum died, poor kids.

Also, much too many rules for these kids who are now almost-adult (almost - they still need support!), but I guess you've not been there yet with your kids. You'll see - kids will slowly want to become more independent and you clearly haven't hit the full teens yet with your two so I guess you wouldn't understand where they're coming from. You'll see eventually! ;)

But you are unreasonable about the father cutting them off at this point. They've had a tough enough life already, having been moved from pillar to post.

I'm sure it wasn't easy but he chose to stay in the UK and not chose to live in the country where his DC were living.

It's an unusual choice.

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