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To think that women (or men) who drop their kids off at school in PJS, go shopping in Tesco in pj's and come down to the breakfast in a hotel in pj's are wrong in the head?

784 replies

YourAmplePlumPoster · 29/05/2025 19:22

I visited Amsterdam last year and was shocked to see an apparently middle class women coming down to breakfast in her pj's,dressing gown and slippers. Similarly going round Tescos where there are people, especially women in pj's and slippers. No doubt I'll be called an old right wing fascist or something.

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OonaStubbs · 01/06/2025 00:39

Pyjamas are nightware. I have never seen a man out in PJs so I don't see why it is acceptable for women. It's just lazy and slovenly.

TheOriginalEmu · 01/06/2025 02:09

Daybrake · 31/05/2025 10:43

This is bare minimum you don’t deserve any kudos for getting your child to school.

We all pay taxes so all children have the opportunity to get an education. This also enables parents to work or get some time to do themselves or whatever they spend their day doing.

In some countries children - especially girls - don’t have that opportunity for an education . And a lot of parents really struggled with children at home during lockdown.

You should be grateful if anything, for being able to drop your kids off for 6 hours a day! not thinking you’ve achieved some great feat because you dropped off your kids in PJs.

Get changed, washed your face and do better. Raise your bar! Being slightly less worse than the strange guy in Tesco wearing swimming shorts is no flex either.

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You should be grateful that you clearly have never had a disability or illness that means doing that bare minimum is 100% a flex.
I drove my childreb to work/college/day centre last week for the first time in 2 years. This has been a massive achievement for me that I often didn’t think I’d ever do again.

fiveIsNewOne · 01/06/2025 03:37

YourAmplePlumPoster · 29/05/2025 19:28

How does a child feel being dropped off at school by a parent who can't even make an effort to look presentable. Personally, I don't go out unless I have make up on and am wearing jewellery and nice clothes. What's wrong with that?

What is it teaching your child, especially a possible daughter, if their mum wouldn't go out without makeup and jewellery? Sounds very looks-conscious and a rather bad example, just of a different kind.

BeanQuisine · 01/06/2025 03:59

ButteredRadishes · 31/05/2025 18:58

It doesn't affect me.

It it is an odd choice.

You keep repeating "it's an odd choice" but you have yet to explain what you think is wrong about people making choices that you find odd.

In an ostensibly free country, people should surely be free to be as harmlessly "odd" as they wish.

ButteredRadishes · 01/06/2025 06:36

BeanQuisine · 01/06/2025 03:59

You keep repeating "it's an odd choice" but you have yet to explain what you think is wrong about people making choices that you find odd.

In an ostensibly free country, people should surely be free to be as harmlessly "odd" as they wish.

Because it is odd to actively choose to wear pyjamas, just as it would be odd to choose to wear a nightie or a onesie or a wetsuit or whatever.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 01/06/2025 06:50

ButteredRadishes · 01/06/2025 06:36

Because it is odd to actively choose to wear pyjamas, just as it would be odd to choose to wear a nightie or a onesie or a wetsuit or whatever.

Why.? Why is it odd?

Saying "but is IS" isn't a reason.

I expect better answers from my three year old than you give.

Needmorelego · 01/06/2025 07:01

@ButteredRadishes I find it odd that some people choose to wear high heels. Why on earth would someone want to walk with their feet in an unnatural position?
Does their shoe choice affect me?
Do I care?
No to both.

ButteredRadishes · 01/06/2025 07:13

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 01/06/2025 06:50

Why.? Why is it odd?

Saying "but is IS" isn't a reason.

I expect better answers from my three year old than you give.

Because odd means unusual ... It's an odd /unusual choice to go out in pyjamas, just as it's odd to go out in a tutu and vest...

So.... It is strange to actively choose to wear pyjamas as day clothes when out and about.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 01/06/2025 07:23

ButteredRadishes · 01/06/2025 07:13

Because odd means unusual ... It's an odd /unusual choice to go out in pyjamas, just as it's odd to go out in a tutu and vest...

So.... It is strange to actively choose to wear pyjamas as day clothes when out and about.

In your opinion.

You've been given lots of reasons why people will choose to and just continued to judge for no reason other than you don't like it.

I'm sure you do things that other people consider odd, let's hope you're lucky enough to people who are happy to just let you be you around you, rather than other people like you.

I've also seen more people out in tutu's than pjs, for some styles they're quite common, so I'm not sure you are the authority on what "odd" is.

UsernameTalk · 01/06/2025 07:45

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 19:11

It's a bit like the families that send their children to school in nappies when they should have long been out of nappies. It's feckless behaviour that is excused. The same as the feckless behavior of grown adults wandering around in Asda midday in pj's or turning up for breakfast in pj's. Let alone the ones who are apparently going to the movies in pj's and a comfort blanket. F$ck off and grow up, FFS.

Some children have disabilities. My child was in nappies the first year of school due to his diagnosed disability.

The blanket at cinema could be a weighted blanket due to sensory issues.

Also why do women have to wear makeup to look presentable and not men?

I agree with adults not wearing pjs outside but you just sound sexist and phobic to people with disabilities and mental health issues

TeaAndTattoos · 01/06/2025 09:23

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 20:29

Plain to see these people wandering around Asda, Lidle or whatever don't work. They're there in their pj's at noon in the supermarket. Sorry to sound "judgemental."

How can you sit there and act like Hyacinth Bucket over people choosing to wear pj’s and then turn round and spell a basic word like Lidl wrong.

Dangermoo · 01/06/2025 09:25

TeaAndTattoos · 01/06/2025 09:23

How can you sit there and act like Hyacinth Bucket over people choosing to wear pj’s and then turn round and spell a basic word like Lidl wrong.

They are playing on the words Lidl and idle. More juvenile behaviour from the OP.

SunComeBack · 01/06/2025 09:31

To the people commenting that they wear pyjamas to do school pick ups and to go to Asda ect., Do your children not say anything?
My son wouldn’t have been seen dead with me if I’d tried to walking in pyjamas outside.

Dangermoo · 01/06/2025 09:33

SunComeBack · 01/06/2025 09:31

To the people commenting that they wear pyjamas to do school pick ups and to go to Asda ect., Do your children not say anything?
My son wouldn’t have been seen dead with me if I’d tried to walking in pyjamas outside.

Who's in charge, your or your son?

TeaAndTattoos · 01/06/2025 09:36

Dangermoo · 01/06/2025 09:25

They are playing on the words Lidl and idle. More juvenile behaviour from the OP.

I’m struggling to believe that this whole post is actually real because it just comes across as being a massive troll post of all the things that they could’ve made a post about this is what they choose.

Dangermoo · 01/06/2025 09:40

TeaAndTattoos · 01/06/2025 09:36

I’m struggling to believe that this whole post is actually real because it just comes across as being a massive troll post of all the things that they could’ve made a post about this is what they choose.

Totally agree, which is why I reported it a few days ago. As soon as the thread started, its unsavoury title was a giveaway.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 01/06/2025 09:55

GlomOfNit · 01/06/2025 00:20

I loathe it in shops or on the school run (if you get out of your car...) but ... having thought about it...

I do myself often walk down the garden in my Pjs and out onto the back lane. It gives onto a field and a few other houses' drives give onto the same lane. It's not at all uncommon for me to see neighbours passing on the lane (dog walk, etc) while I've drifted down the garden to look into the field/take a photo of the sunrise/etc). So is that skanky? Grin It really doesn't feel skanky (and my PJs are nice traditional button-up and not slovenly ones) but maybe my neighbours secretly think I'm letting the entire road down. I've been known to pop out of the front door to get a package/put something in the wheely bin in PJs too.

And camping, I just feel it's part of acceptable camping etiquette to wear your PJs out of the tent to the loos/shower block etc. And at festivals if going to the loo. Isn't it?

I often go out in the garden in my nightie or dressing gown and I've even sat outside! The garden is overlooked but who cares? If something needs to go in the bin and I'm not dressed I put my dressing gown on and take it, it wouldn't occur to me to get dressed first! Presumably the OP would expect me to get dressed and put my make up and jewellery on first!

SunComeBack · 01/06/2025 10:13

Dangermoo · 01/06/2025 09:33

Who's in charge, your or your son?

To be fair I wouldn’t knock about with someone who wore pyjamas to Sainsbury’s. It’s not about who is in charge, it’s lazy and embarrassing.
I can’t believe people argue to be honest, just put some day time clothes on.

Dangermoo · 01/06/2025 10:23

SunComeBack · 01/06/2025 10:13

To be fair I wouldn’t knock about with someone who wore pyjamas to Sainsbury’s. It’s not about who is in charge, it’s lazy and embarrassing.
I can’t believe people argue to be honest, just put some day time clothes on.

If you've got your kid dictating what you wear, it's an issue. Different to not wanting to be seen with your mate in PJs. I do accept that PP might have just been using a throwaway term.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 01/06/2025 10:26

SunComeBack · 01/06/2025 10:13

To be fair I wouldn’t knock about with someone who wore pyjamas to Sainsbury’s. It’s not about who is in charge, it’s lazy and embarrassing.
I can’t believe people argue to be honest, just put some day time clothes on.

But it’s not always laziness. People with mental health problems have explained that getting up in the morning and getting to the shop is an achievement some days. I explained that PJ bottoms were the only comfortable clothes I had after surgery. Maybe try teaching your son not to judge other people

SunComeBack · 01/06/2025 11:03

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 01/06/2025 10:26

But it’s not always laziness. People with mental health problems have explained that getting up in the morning and getting to the shop is an achievement some days. I explained that PJ bottoms were the only comfortable clothes I had after surgery. Maybe try teaching your son not to judge other people

If you can put pyjamas on your can put clothes on, Jogging bottoms are day clothes so you are dressed appropriately.
I keep seeing videos all over social media at the moment where I hate to say it but it’s mums 99% of the time trying to normalise wearing pyjamas all day, not showering and getting there kids dressed all week or showing off their filthy homes all under the heading.. Dont judge me as a mum, I’m depressed ect.
I get people have there struggles but these children get one childhood and deserve better.
Ive had periods of depression and grief, I climbed back into to bed the second I’d dropped mine at school… fully washed and dressed. I was brought up by a woman who didn’t get help with mental health and that resulted in a shitty childhood where I never had clean clothes and lived in an embarrassing shit hole, children deserve more effort.

ObelixtheGaul · 01/06/2025 11:34

SunComeBack · 01/06/2025 11:03

If you can put pyjamas on your can put clothes on, Jogging bottoms are day clothes so you are dressed appropriately.
I keep seeing videos all over social media at the moment where I hate to say it but it’s mums 99% of the time trying to normalise wearing pyjamas all day, not showering and getting there kids dressed all week or showing off their filthy homes all under the heading.. Dont judge me as a mum, I’m depressed ect.
I get people have there struggles but these children get one childhood and deserve better.
Ive had periods of depression and grief, I climbed back into to bed the second I’d dropped mine at school… fully washed and dressed. I was brought up by a woman who didn’t get help with mental health and that resulted in a shitty childhood where I never had clean clothes and lived in an embarrassing shit hole, children deserve more effort.

That's a terrible thing to go through, but let me ask you, do you think other people being judgemental arseholes helped in any way?

My mother was a stickler for us being turned out well, etc. 90% of it was fear of judgement. 'What will the neighbours think?' was her mantra, only to later tell me as a self-conscious teen that I cared too much what others thought.

But despite that adherence to propriety, she would have come down on me like a ton of bricks if I had commented on someone else's attire. Well-mannered people didn't remark upon other people. It was 'common' to do so.

Most children go through a phase of being embarrassed by their parents. Your son might also not be 'seen dead' with you in a bright shirt, or an outfit the other mums don't wear. If the 'norm' at drop off is jeans and T shirts, I suspect OPs kids might die of embarrassment at her wearing makeup and jewellery.

If I'd dared mention to my mother I wouldn't be seen dead with her in any outfit, I would have been walking.

SunComeBack · 01/06/2025 11:49

ObelixtheGaul · 01/06/2025 11:34

That's a terrible thing to go through, but let me ask you, do you think other people being judgemental arseholes helped in any way?

My mother was a stickler for us being turned out well, etc. 90% of it was fear of judgement. 'What will the neighbours think?' was her mantra, only to later tell me as a self-conscious teen that I cared too much what others thought.

But despite that adherence to propriety, she would have come down on me like a ton of bricks if I had commented on someone else's attire. Well-mannered people didn't remark upon other people. It was 'common' to do so.

Most children go through a phase of being embarrassed by their parents. Your son might also not be 'seen dead' with you in a bright shirt, or an outfit the other mums don't wear. If the 'norm' at drop off is jeans and T shirts, I suspect OPs kids might die of embarrassment at her wearing makeup and jewellery.

If I'd dared mention to my mother I wouldn't be seen dead with her in any outfit, I would have been walking.

I guess it’s a case of our different life experiences making us who we are. I’m one of those wouldn’t leave the house without makeup and nice hair types, it’s takes me an hour to get ready in the morning. I can accept people may be making comments about me, just like I do when I see people in Asdas wearing pyjamas. I don’t care though and will continue you to dress as I do, just as I accept the people on the school run in there dressing gowns don’t care about my opinion.
I don’t dress for other people though, I do it because it’s how I’m comfortable.

ObelixtheGaul · 01/06/2025 12:26

SunComeBack · 01/06/2025 11:49

I guess it’s a case of our different life experiences making us who we are. I’m one of those wouldn’t leave the house without makeup and nice hair types, it’s takes me an hour to get ready in the morning. I can accept people may be making comments about me, just like I do when I see people in Asdas wearing pyjamas. I don’t care though and will continue you to dress as I do, just as I accept the people on the school run in there dressing gowns don’t care about my opinion.
I don’t dress for other people though, I do it because it’s how I’m comfortable.

But why comment at all? If you know some people might comment about your attire and it might not only be negative, but also involve assumptions that couldn't be further from the truth, why wouldn't you think your assumptions about laziness, etc, might also be inaccurate.

You acknowledge that you dress for your own comfort. So do I. It's not pyjamas, but it's not makeup, etc. So my assumptions about other people are based on them doing as I do, only what makes them comfortable is different.

There's absolutely no need for me to attach value judgements. I'm in Sainsbury's to shop. So are they. What they wear has no bearing on the task at hand for me. It doesn't prevent me getting my groceries.

It might be human nature to judge, but it isn't something anybody should be proud of doing and it is something we can all decide not to do in situations involving complete strangers who aren't causing physical or mental harm to anyone else.

It's unpleasant and unnecessary and serves no useful purpose for anyone concerned.

SunComeBack · 01/06/2025 12:57

ObelixtheGaul · 01/06/2025 12:26

But why comment at all? If you know some people might comment about your attire and it might not only be negative, but also involve assumptions that couldn't be further from the truth, why wouldn't you think your assumptions about laziness, etc, might also be inaccurate.

You acknowledge that you dress for your own comfort. So do I. It's not pyjamas, but it's not makeup, etc. So my assumptions about other people are based on them doing as I do, only what makes them comfortable is different.

There's absolutely no need for me to attach value judgements. I'm in Sainsbury's to shop. So are they. What they wear has no bearing on the task at hand for me. It doesn't prevent me getting my groceries.

It might be human nature to judge, but it isn't something anybody should be proud of doing and it is something we can all decide not to do in situations involving complete strangers who aren't causing physical or mental harm to anyone else.

It's unpleasant and unnecessary and serves no useful purpose for anyone concerned.

Fair enough, I do only judge in the moment at the time in my head, I’d never say anything to anybody and I would not let my children be mean about anyone’s looks either. Like you said it probably is human nature to judge, no need to be mean though.

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