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Aibu to think not very nice people seem to do well in life

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Springslopes12 · 25/05/2025 07:14

I know this post may come across as jealous/bitter and I guess I am. However I just feel that people who aren't very nice seem to do well in life i.e financial and do well in business. It's probably to do with their personality and that they don't care about who they upset therefore they move higher in the ranks.
I've just seen a girl I used to be friends with pop up and she is married to the guy she was with many years ago. They have the biggest house, nicest things, go to fancy events and places.
However I know she's not a nice person that's why I cut her out of my life. I was bullied badly by another girl on holiday and she joined in. She didn't stick up for me or help me. That holiday was absolutely horrible for me. Cried so much!
She was always trying to compete with me too and better me. I just feel why do these people get what they want. It's just not fair. I did tell her the reasons why I stopped talking to her as she asked why I was being quiet with her. She tried to dismiss her actions but I did not accept it.

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Thepeopleversuswork · 25/05/2025 11:58

As a PP said there's a lot of confirmation bias here: you're seeing evidence everywhere that confirms your suspicions and ignoring evidence of "nice" people who are successful.

However, I do think it's true that people pleasers rarely become successful. People who subsume their own needs to those of others and who constantly erase their own views and personalities in order to not rock the boat and go along with the group will rarely become successful because they have no backbone, can't articulate their own needs and beliefs and don't even know what they really want out of life. People who are going to lead organisations or businesses need to be tough enough to know what they want and know what they want others to do for them.

I don't think you have to be unpleasant or unkind to be successful but you do need focus, drive and sometimes a degree of ruthlessness or at the very least a capacity to put your needs ahead of those around you.

SquashedMallow · 25/05/2025 12:01

wastingtimeonhere · 25/05/2025 11:36

I also noticed that quite a few of the 'nastier' people from when I was young appear to have larger, involved families and large circles of friends.
I know there are some who were the school 'favourites' who also did well.
It's the nice, reliable but unremarkable that got shit on including me and are permanently on the periphery of friendships.

I've also found this. The "loud" brash, gobby women are always the ones that have "the girls" tagged in hen nights and holidays etc. they've always got a big circle. I suppose it's self confidence though.

Coconutter24 · 25/05/2025 13:26

SquashedMallow · 25/05/2025 11:30

That's a little patronising and dismissive. There are well known researched links with narcissism/psychopathy and business success.

There might be links to suggest narcissist’s do well in business but that does not mean everyone who does well in business is a narcissist. It’s also quite dismissive to suggest otherwise. The whole post is based on bitterness and jealousy (ops words) so of course it’s only going to focus on the negative

TrolleySong · 25/05/2025 13:35

SquashedMallow · 25/05/2025 11:30

That's a little patronising and dismissive. There are well known researched links with narcissism/psychopathy and business success.

But the OP never references ‘business success’. She refers to two women she experienced as bullies, one of whom is a nurse, while the other’s field is unspecified — the reason she thinks they’ve ’done well’ is because of who they married and have ‘the nicest things’. It’s a poorly thought-out theory based on a sample size of two people who were mean to her on holiday years ago and a deeply low-rent idea of ‘doing well’. Essentially two women who were nasty to her got married and have ‘nice things’.

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