You scumbag You maggot you cheap lousy…

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My second AIBU Of the night, husbands being very argumentative! Anyway, I’ve screenshot two examples of what the Kirsty MacColl might have meant in Fairy Tale of NewYork. Who is correct.. My opinion is the description underlined in red and my husband’s is blue.

Words do definitely change meaning which is when most decent people decide they don't want to use them anymore.

For example the Spastics Society is now known as Scope.

Well, it's a novelty to have this thread in May, not December

A bit of Christmas Froth for the spring 🎅

Are you asking about the meaning of the word now or the meaning in the song?

In our house it’s you scumbag you maggot you taped over taggart.

Anyone else got the song stuck in their head now? 😬🤣

What I find remarkable about this song is that I had never heard of it until I joined MN, and I’m a native New Yorker.

In the song

It’s a brilliant song though isn’t it!

It’s something you eat where I live

We were watching Who do you think you are, it was filmed in Ireland.. And for some reason the conversation turned into this.

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I’ve got that song in my head now,
which is far more appropriate at this time of year than the other one, so thanks for that

You can get them in the freezer isle at my local Tesco.

That's before we even get to fanny.

It's an Irish song. McGowan and Finer wanted it to be authentic. Authentic language was used. My DH was from County Clare (where the song was going to be set) faggot and bugger had nothing to do with gay people.

Interesting how some cultures are allowed and others aren't.

Of course we all know that meaning - but it doesn’t make sense in the context of the song.

I agree! It’s my husband who is trying to convince me that that’s not what they meant in the song. I thought everyone would agree with me but it seems not.

It was named after a book one of the writers of the song Jem Finer, was reading.

I'm quite old and I have never, ever, ever heard "faggot" used to mean a lazy person, or read it thus used in old books, or seen it in old films. Nor do any dictionaries I can quickly access give that meaning. Does anyone claiming it was have any examples?

That would be more convincing as a bitter reproach than 'you're cheap and you're haggard'. Whoever screams at their other half during a row ".. and you're haggard!"

Yeah it was faggots, payse and gravy where I grew up. Sonetimes in a basket which fascinated me given liquid and woven containers don't go. Turned out there was some waxy paper lining to save the day. Luckily I was veggie.

But as others say OP I don't think you or your husband are correct. So at least no one gets to win that argument.

Your husband is a blithering idiot.

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🤣 “JEREMY!!!”

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