To think it’s actually really unfair to be charged for bank holidays at nursery?

[bouncinround]

And no, I’m not going to complain about it because I don’t want anyone to think I begrudge the staff a day off. I don’t. But I do resent paying for a service I’m not receiving.

The classic answer to this has come up numerous times already - ‘I assume you are paid for bank holidays?’ No, actually im
not. I’m self employed and no work = no pay. so can I not pay the nursery or at least have the right to moan about it?

One of the things I do is run a club for children, including on a Monday. On the May bank holiday I couldn’t run it cos the school I run it in was closed. So, I didn’t charge the parents for that week. I can’t imagine many of them would have been happy to pay for it if I had tried to do that! Does everyone pay out for their kids football/ballet/gymnastics or whatever when it falls on a bank holiday? Or do you find that the activity provider doesn’t bill
you for that week?

Small business owners raking it in from nurseries are immoral creeps.

Ditto small business owners raking it in from elder care.

You pay for all the staff's holidays, 5.6 weeks a year, not just the bank holidays. It's part of your fees. Why get upset about the bank holidays only?

No, they don't have to, they could take it out of profits.

Are you aware of the nursery funding crisis?

Change your working days if you don’t like it. “They should pay from their profits” is an absurd statement. Everyone knows that nurseries are on their knees and barely make a profit.

This pissed me off so much when we had kids in nursery, especially if not full time as those on MT&W lost much more to BHs than say a TW&T booking. Yes, they should be paid, no you should not be billed when no service is available, even if you pay a tiny bit more a day to cover it, this is not reasonable.

I completely agree.

My dc goes to nursery Mon, Tue and Thu. My friends dc goes to nursery Tue, Wed and Thurs.

We both pay the exact same fees however they receive an extra 5+ days to what I get as they don't attend on a Monday.

I still work on bank holidays so I'm then left to fork out even more on additional childcare.

They need to increase the fees so the bank Holiday bill is split evenly between everyone that attends. This way the staff can be paid for their days off (although I don't get paid for bank holidays off.) This way, one group isn't being penalised for attending Mondays.

Not everyone has the choice to not use nurseries on a Monday to avoid the fees without getting the service.

The company should cover that though, not the customers!

Because people that don't use nursery on a Monday get an additional 5+ days per year, compared to those that do use nursery on a Monday.

It should be split evenly between all parents or the Monday children should get reduced fees for the missed days.

If my child attends part-time on particular days, it would be reasonable to expect my fees to be different depending upon which days my child attends.

So given the Monday frequency of bank holidays a Monday-Tuesday fee should be lower than a Tuesday-Wednesday fee.

it’s still easier if things are calculated by year or term instead of wasting time generating invoices.

You don't get paid bank holidays? How? Unless you're self employed. Soz.

Most people don't. Most people don't even get them off.

It's more unusual to get them off and get paid.

Plenty of people don’t even get the specific bank holiday days off. BHs are just included in our holiday entitlement because bank holidays are normal working days in my industry, as they are for a lot of people. Nursery being closed on a bank holiday would be super inconvenient for us as I would have to take a holiday day or pay for childcare somewhere else, so I’m very grateful our nursery doesn’t close for any of them. I assume they are same as me, they get the days included in their holiday allowance to take as normal holiday.

Whenever I take DD2 to nursery on a bank holiday, it’s just as full as usual. I don’t actually know of any private nurseries around us that close on bank holidays, just the school nurseries for 3+.

That's not what she's whinging about. She thinks holiday pay should come out of profits and not from parents.

No it's not. You need to re-read her posts.

This is exactly what she means and I agree because I'm also an unfairly penalised Monday parent that gets a weeks less childcare for the same price as others.

YANBU. The nursery, a business, should factor this in to their pricing as part of their overheads.

It's why I didn't send my kids on a Monday - I was lucky to have family support that were flexible on which day they could have them.

We don’t charge bank holidays or our Xmas week closure. Costs are absorbed through yearly pricing so it is fair for all parents.

It's not me who needs to re-read.

Yanbu, it would be fairer to ensure that the hourly rates across the board allow the nursery to pay staff on bank holidays, without charging parents of monday kids the same as everyone else but giving them less service.

If they have staff who don't work mondays, they are still entitled to pro rata bank holiday leave so why should monday/friday parents be disproportionately hit.

If I had the energy I'd screen shot them all to prove you wrong, but I don't.

No doubt the op will clear that up for you later

She didn’t ask if you begrudge staff a day off, she asked if you get paid for bank holidays.

Which you avoided answering so you clearly do get paid on bank holidays.

Poster: "So, how will they pay the staff if you don't pay for the day?"

OP: "Out of their profits."

Literally couldn't be clearer.

Here's the OP's third post. Literally exactly what I was saying. She pays extra for Mondays when it should be equal between everyone and not penalise only the Monday users.

"Out of their profits.
The reason it annoys me is because if you send your child on a Monday then you get hit with a charge for a service you don’t get. But if you send your child on a Thursday you don’t.
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Mine attend Mondays and Fridays so this is the fourth one this year."
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And no, I don’t get paid if I don’t go to work. But I don’t mind them being paid. I just don’t feel it should be from my pocket.

Yes their profits from EVERY parent. Not just the MONDAY parents like the OP SMH.