To feel parents should not move their crying child round the cabin to disturb everyone?

[Tiredannoyedflyer]

I have just flown business on a 9 hour flight, with the intention of getting sleep before arriving.

I purposely chose seats away from the bassinets and towards the back of the cabin as I thought this would be quieter. As it was near the emergency exit; all this actually meant was that every parent with a crying baby or child took them to this area, so I actually got precisely zero sleep! Each seat has its own doors but those standing can look directly down into it so I had a stream of parents with children not only standing by my bed whilst I’m trying to sleep, but also looking down into my sleeping area which I find extremely intrusive.

I am not suggesting those with children shouldn’t fly business, just that they should be more considerate to those seated away from the bassinet seats.

AIBU to feel that parents should just stay in their seat with their child who is crying, sometimes a baby, sometimes a toddler, rather than spread the misery to absolutely everyone in the cabin, rather than those unlucky enough to be sitting near them on takeoff.

When the crying child is taken to stand next to my seat, would I be unreasonable to ask them to move as it’s disturbing me?

I get you - like most celebrities - you think that business if for adults and nannies should sit with their charges in economy? Honestly, I don't know how it should be done.

I take it you don’t have children?

Planes aren't very big. If there are crying babies you will hear them. Invest in better noise cancelling headphones next time.

I don't know anyone who chooses to sit near babies and children that aren't their own. And they can end up anywhere on the plane.

YABU

You aren’t getting my point - which is should parents congregate away from their own seat to avoid disturbing their partner, whilst standing over my bed with their screaming child.

The best noise cancelling headphones won’t prevent you hearing that, not to mention the absolute creepiness of a man looking down into the bed that you are trying to sleep in

Why is that relevant?

They’re in economy …

where they belong*

*(I jest).

I feel your pain. Had this once on the way to New Zealand - I said them exact words why wake the whole plane. We were economy on a huge plane so just as soon as you nodded off the mum appeared again with the baby having walked the full length of the plane.

it’s got nothing to do with what class you fly in but I personally wouldn’t take a baby on a plane - I waited till older. Appreciate if you have family to visit etc that might not be an option but YANBU

They're just moving around a small cabin. You could just as easily have ended up with a baby sat either side of you anyway. You are also free to move about the cabin.
Now there's a "creepy man" as well as babies? Staring at you under your mask, headphones and duvet?
Honestly I think commercial airlines aren't for you.

Complain to the airline. You needed sleep not people peering into your closed area and making loud noise.

So I can’t go on holiday because I feel people should be considerate of others. Okay.

Sorry but you can’t expect privacy and silence on a plane unless you charter a private jet next time.

It's a plane. Everyone can see everyone all the time. It isn't creepy or inconsiderate to look in your direction or make noise in a small confined space.

Do you understand how business class works?

There is a door on the seating area. The seat reclines flat and therefore is then not visible to the aisle.
someone standing above it is looking directly down into it, invading my privacy.

That’s what you pay thousands of pounds for, privacy.

Having a child does not trump anyone else’s right to privacy or enjoyment of the private space they have paid for.

So no, not everyone can see you, all of the time - unless they are invading your privacy by standing above it looking down into it.

Which is creepy.

Your seat is not a sealed box. People are allowed to move around. Sorry if it wasn't what you expected. At least now you know not to waste your money again.

YANBU. Unfortunately my DH is extremely tall so have to book the long legged seat. These are near the bassinets so we have the delight of babies and usually their siblings behind us kicking the seat.
I would have been really pissed off in your situation OP. Business is so people can rest as often going straight into work from the airport.
They should keep babies/young children in premium economy and leave business for what it was invented for.

But the parents are choosing to stand with a crying baby by the OP. They could choose to stand near their own empty seat and their partners (if there) but they don't. So no OP YANBU to expect them to stand
near their own seat.

To some extent I understand if they are walking up and down so the motion soothes the baby but to stand elsewhere to give their partner peace or not disturb others sitting near them but to choose to stand elsewhere isn't on.

You need to take responsibility for yourself. Buy noise cancelling headphones, ear plugs. You are flying in an airplane…. It’s public.

This is a YOU problem … business class doesn’t buy you quiet, or child free zone.

Same as it doesn’t buy you insulation from snorers, smelly people, loud talkers, drunks, etc
Fly private.

I’d be well fucked off if I’d forked out for business class and found a load of babies and kids in there.

I admit I've never flow business, but from what I've seen, the cabins aren't usually huge. OP is acting like her seat has been targeted as baby/creepy man hang out spot. But in reality there isn't really far anyone can go in any direction.

I doubt all the parents saw parent one do it and thought they’d follow suit?

Not likely.

There was 3 sections to business, over 100 seats.

First, in my experience there were only 8 seats so fair enough.

But over 100 seats and you can’t just walk up and down near your own seat?

I wasn’t suggested he had targeted me, I just find it uncomfortable. Surely I’m allowed to feel that or am I being shitty because it’s a baby and therefore I should just pay my 3k and be grateful?

It probably has if near the emergency exit as she stated as there is a bigger standing space there.

No airline is going to say no to taking parents money and filling those seats.

But they may find other passengers are more willing to pay for business if it’s guaranteed small child free. Me for example.