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I dont want my DD to stay at her Aunties

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Unorganisedchaos2 · 19/05/2025 16:20

I have a 6 year old DD, my sister has a 4 year old DD and lives a 2 hour drive away. We were always very close but in the past few years the relationship has broken down. She's made it clear she tolerates me just so she can see DD.

A few months ago my Mum asked if she could take my DD to my sisters for the weekend, I kindly explained that me and DH wouldn’t be comfortable with that. Mum has DD for overnight visits a few times a year and she's welcome to have her whenever she wants but I have my concerns about the way my sister parents and I can't expect her to police that. Sister has a knack of disappearing whenever there's another adult, one time I was at hers and she was gone for an hour - it turned out shed gone to her friends next door for a coffee and not told anyone! So its likely mum will be left doing most of the childcare. Mum agrees with my concerns but refuses to raise them with my sister (she says its none of her business how sister parents her child) Mum was very annoyed but left it.

I actually posted on here at the time as I was so annoyed but during October half term Sister invited herself to stay for the week and it was awful, she was largely disinterested in both girls to the point where me and DH did most of the child care, even basics such as making DN had brushed her teeth and had a wash. DN was constantly asking where her mum was. There were also a few instances which troubled me on the few occasions she actually did interact with them

  • I found her upstairs with both girls and all her medication scattered over the bed and she was explaining what each one was for "this makes me feel less anxious, this makes me feel less sad, this helps my pain etc etc" Sister has a chronic condition so does need medication but I suspect she's topping up the prescription tramadol & codeine with co-codamol from the chemist as there was a huge amount and only some had prescription stickers. The bag of medication is always on display and certainly not out of reach, I was constantly putting it away in a cupboard much to her annoyance.
  • Caught her having a conversation with both girls about anxiety, how it presents in different ways, tummy ache, feeling nervous etc. and how she manages her anxiety - I can't think of any reason why this would have come up in conversation and it was one of the few times she actually sat and chatted with them both which made it stranger.
  • She's told DN that Father Christmas and the tooth fairy aren't real as she doesn’t believe in lying to children.
  • DN never wears clothes at home, not even underwear, the week they stayed I was constantly asking my DD to get dressed as obviously she wanted to copy her cousin. At her house DN is allowed to play in the garden and out the front of the house (it’s a cul-de-sack) completely naked, she also doesn’t make the child wear shoes when they go out, so she walks barefoot to the shop, on the bus, even in public toilets - sister just says DN has sensory issues and if she wants the leave the house she has to let her be barefoot.

DD came back from my mums this weekend asking when is she going to stay over at cousins house as Nanny was telling her about it. Next time I see Mum I'll make it very clear again that DD won't be going there without me and I'm annoyed she's mentioned it to DD as I now have to explain that she won't be going and DD is going to think it's my fault she can't go. Mum and sister have a history of guilt tripping and manipulating to get what they want and since having DD I've grown a bit of a back bone and they seem to be struggling with no getting what they want I suspect…

How can I explain to 6 year old DD that she can't go and stay with her cousin because her auntie's lazy and I don’t trust her Nanny to keep her safe? Do I just brush it off and hope she forgets? She loves her cousin so much and misses her :(

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DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 19/05/2025 20:35

DN is only four.. surely these requests are parent or grandparent led? As is the obstinacy that your DD has to go to theirs.

MyLittleNest · 19/05/2025 20:44

Your DD is young enough that she will likely forget what your mother told her but if she brings it up again, I agree with the other poster and just say that her Nanna made a mistake.

Given your extremely valid concerns regarding your sister's judgement, and the fact that you have clearly vocalized your feelings and reasoning to your mother, for her to then suggest to your DD that she would be sleeping over at auntie's soon is an enormous breech of trust.

You've already said that your mother has a pattern of at least trying to manipulate you, and here she goes again. I'd hold off letting your mum take DD for sleepovers for a while until she can earn back your trust--and stop trying to play you to get her way.

Peachy2005 · 19/05/2025 20:47

None of them sound fit to be near your child and I’m surprised nobody has reported your DSis to social services. You need to take the cue from your DH on this and just drop it with DSis (and unfortunately DN). All the best x

Enthusiasticcarrotgrower · 19/05/2025 20:51

Sorry, you can’t go to Auntie Laura’s because she isn’t very good at keeping her medicine safe.

PrayMoreWorryLess · 19/05/2025 20:55

This needs to be reported to SS, a child playing outside naked? This poor girl is being neglected. The mother sounds unhinged at best.
I work in a school, and she will be recognised quickly as a concern.

Noodles1234 · 19/05/2025 21:00

Your Mum probably feels very awkward and caught in the middle, not knowing what to do and hoping one day for the perfect family unit.

totally agree with you, no visiting without you, I couldn’t sleep. You’re Mum so you call the shots, not your Mum or sister.

if your sister really wants to see her, suggest to meet at a neutral point roughly in the middle (a park maybe), no houses, no naked kids in gardens (fair enough for her kids, but not yours when you don’t want it).

it does sound as if your sister has some issues, this is not for you to put your family at risk or lack of parenting on her part.

learn to say no… fast.

JIMER202 · 19/05/2025 21:05

Poor DN :( (not because of this but because she isn’t being kept safe!)

whynotwhatknot · 19/05/2025 21:06

that poor kid going out naked and her little feet what if she steps on glass

surprised noone has reported her yet

Thisisittheapocalypse · 19/05/2025 21:11

I wouldn't be having her in my home again or left unsupervised with your DD ever again.

ChewbaccasMrs · 19/05/2025 21:15

Please tell me you've contacted children's services about your poor niece?!

Tablets left everywhere,constantly naked what on earth.

Thepossibility · 19/05/2025 21:18

I agree with parent up. I have gone very low contact with my DB (single dad) and my DM for similar reasons. The way my niece is being raised (similar to the way I was raised) is not something I am comfortable exposing my kids to. I'm worried if they see family doing it then it's ok.

Heronwatcher · 19/05/2025 21:40

Agree, keep it simple. Nanny made a mistake, or we think it’s better not to do sleepovers at auntie x’s for the moment. But you can still see cousin y at nanny’s house.

Bear in mind, if you keep letting her stay with your mum eventually your mum will take her there, if not overnight for longer than you’d like I’ll bet.

Peachy2005 · 19/05/2025 21:49

Agree with @outerspacepotato who said: “She needs to stop showing your daughter meds and talking about her health conditions. You do get she's trying to instill some anxiety in your daughter who is at a suggestible age?”

She’s coaching both the little girls imo…absolutely shocking behaviour!

StupidBoy · 19/05/2025 22:00

Im just not sure how to explain to DD, as Mum has made it clear she and sister have invited her so its my fault she cant go ..

What on earth is your mum playing at, going into that much detail with a six year old without clearing the plans with you first?

Just tell your DD that there has been a change of plan. Make up some reason why. She's six. She'll believe whatever you tell her. And tell your mother she's not to mention her visit to your daughter. Just tell your mother straight that you don't like the way your sister lives and parents and you won't be allowing your DD to stay there without you because you don't trust your sister. End of story. No debate to be had.

EdithBond · 19/05/2025 22:00

I’ve always been very honest with my DC. In this scenario, I’d say: “Nanny shouldn’t have said you could go, because it’s up to me and your dad. And we don’t want you staying at Auntie’s house on your own”. If she asks why, then: “Because you’re too young”. Even if she repeats it to your mum or sister, that’s the honest truth.

If your mum asks you why not, simply say “Because she’s too young”. If she asks if you think your sister won’t look after her say: “Yes, she has very different parenting standards to me”.

I’d be more concerned for your DN’s welfare. Streets are littered with broken glass, dog mess, still-burning cigarette butts and heavy people in foot-crushing shoes. It’s a serious infection or fractured foot just waiting to happen. Not to mention the medication left lying around within reach of a 4 year old, who’s been told it makes you feel “less sad”. And do you think she ever leaves her at home alone while she pops next door for a coffee?

Have you spoken to your sister about the risks? What’s her rationale?

Mumoftwochildrenand6furkids · 19/05/2025 22:04

Id say ss need calling an child walking bare foot on the street, Glass, dog muck and I dont even want to imgine whats on the floor in public toilets and then playing unsupervised outside naked. Sorry your sister is an unfit parent and your right to keep your child away from her.

Thehop · 19/05/2025 22:09

If your sister carries on with having her naked all the time and playing out she will soon have so is services visiting. How ridiculous to be barefoot constantly too thats dangerous.

Havingaswimmoose · 19/05/2025 22:37

TheFormidableMrsC · 19/05/2025 18:01

I’d be doing your DN a massive favour and reporting her mother for neglect.

It's taken a lot of posts to get to someone saying this.
I mean, never mind the rest of OP post surely the naked playing outside the house issue would have to be the main thing to comment on?

Why isn't this at the top of the list of problems with the sister? Or maybe the only problem that's worth OP posting about.

Bumdishcloths · 20/05/2025 05:30

Your sister doesn’t just “have a different way of parenting”. Shes neglectful, full stop. Allowing your vulnerable offspring to leave the house naked, in full view, is neglectful. Leaving medication within reach is neglectful. Buggering off mid visit and not telling anyone is neglectful.

Your mum is condoning this. She is just as bad. She is also manipulative. The entire dynamic is toxic as all get out.

If you’re not relying on mum for childcare (which I certainly wouldn’t be based on the information you’ve provided) then I would be having a simple conversation with mum along the lines of: until you can be trusted to respect my wishes you will not be having DD on your own or for sleepovers (which basically means never because she obviously won’t respect your wishes, ever).

Bumdishcloths · 20/05/2025 05:33

Also, as above, I’d be reporting to SS. Your DN deserves better. Even if she has sensory issues, some things have to be non negotiable and others you find a way round. It sounds like your heavily medicated (possibly struggling with addiction too) sister is using everything as an excuse to be an extremely neglectful parent. DN needs safeguarding, many things mentioned are a huge concern.

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 20/05/2025 05:34

Your mum can't be trusted either.

Ontothenextac · 20/05/2025 05:45

Havingaswimmoose · 19/05/2025 22:37

It's taken a lot of posts to get to someone saying this.
I mean, never mind the rest of OP post surely the naked playing outside the house issue would have to be the main thing to comment on?

Why isn't this at the top of the list of problems with the sister? Or maybe the only problem that's worth OP posting about.

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@Havingaswimmoose guessing you didn’t bother to read the thread before posting that 🙄

olympicsrock · 20/05/2025 05:57

Your sister is not a fit parent and your mum can’t be trusted.
I would not let your DD go there. She is trying to coach her daughter to have anxiety and autistix traits.

Ontothenextac · 20/05/2025 05:59

olympicsrock · 20/05/2025 05:57

Your sister is not a fit parent and your mum can’t be trusted.
I would not let your DD go there. She is trying to coach her daughter to have anxiety and autistix traits.

her mother is little better than the sister
and the fact that the op and her mother are acutely aware of the neglect this 4 year old is enduring (and that is all in public, I can’t imagine what goes on behind closed doors) puts both of them in a pretty shady light too

Unorganisedchaos2 · 20/05/2025 07:40

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 18:09

Walking out to the bus and shops etc without any shoes on?

Surely passers by have commented, very concerned?

Apparently this has has got better and normally DN wears shoes now (she always wears them for other people) but that's according to my mum.

If questioned, she kicks off and tells them to mind their own business, they have no idea how hard it raising a neurodiverse child etc etc, She claimed the last time she told DN that they wouldn't go until she put her shoes on they didnt leave the house for a week until she gave in (this isnt remotely true as DN has been in nursery full time since she was 9 months old. Her Dad manages to get her dressed for nursery and now school without any issues.) its normally followed up by a ranting SC post where small group of friends sympathise and rant with her.

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