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I dont want my DD to stay at her Aunties

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Unorganisedchaos2 · 19/05/2025 16:20

I have a 6 year old DD, my sister has a 4 year old DD and lives a 2 hour drive away. We were always very close but in the past few years the relationship has broken down. She's made it clear she tolerates me just so she can see DD.

A few months ago my Mum asked if she could take my DD to my sisters for the weekend, I kindly explained that me and DH wouldn’t be comfortable with that. Mum has DD for overnight visits a few times a year and she's welcome to have her whenever she wants but I have my concerns about the way my sister parents and I can't expect her to police that. Sister has a knack of disappearing whenever there's another adult, one time I was at hers and she was gone for an hour - it turned out shed gone to her friends next door for a coffee and not told anyone! So its likely mum will be left doing most of the childcare. Mum agrees with my concerns but refuses to raise them with my sister (she says its none of her business how sister parents her child) Mum was very annoyed but left it.

I actually posted on here at the time as I was so annoyed but during October half term Sister invited herself to stay for the week and it was awful, she was largely disinterested in both girls to the point where me and DH did most of the child care, even basics such as making DN had brushed her teeth and had a wash. DN was constantly asking where her mum was. There were also a few instances which troubled me on the few occasions she actually did interact with them

  • I found her upstairs with both girls and all her medication scattered over the bed and she was explaining what each one was for "this makes me feel less anxious, this makes me feel less sad, this helps my pain etc etc" Sister has a chronic condition so does need medication but I suspect she's topping up the prescription tramadol & codeine with co-codamol from the chemist as there was a huge amount and only some had prescription stickers. The bag of medication is always on display and certainly not out of reach, I was constantly putting it away in a cupboard much to her annoyance.
  • Caught her having a conversation with both girls about anxiety, how it presents in different ways, tummy ache, feeling nervous etc. and how she manages her anxiety - I can't think of any reason why this would have come up in conversation and it was one of the few times she actually sat and chatted with them both which made it stranger.
  • She's told DN that Father Christmas and the tooth fairy aren't real as she doesn’t believe in lying to children.
  • DN never wears clothes at home, not even underwear, the week they stayed I was constantly asking my DD to get dressed as obviously she wanted to copy her cousin. At her house DN is allowed to play in the garden and out the front of the house (it’s a cul-de-sack) completely naked, she also doesn’t make the child wear shoes when they go out, so she walks barefoot to the shop, on the bus, even in public toilets - sister just says DN has sensory issues and if she wants the leave the house she has to let her be barefoot.

DD came back from my mums this weekend asking when is she going to stay over at cousins house as Nanny was telling her about it. Next time I see Mum I'll make it very clear again that DD won't be going there without me and I'm annoyed she's mentioned it to DD as I now have to explain that she won't be going and DD is going to think it's my fault she can't go. Mum and sister have a history of guilt tripping and manipulating to get what they want and since having DD I've grown a bit of a back bone and they seem to be struggling with no getting what they want I suspect…

How can I explain to 6 year old DD that she can't go and stay with her cousin because her auntie's lazy and I don’t trust her Nanny to keep her safe? Do I just brush it off and hope she forgets? She loves her cousin so much and misses her :(

OP posts:
Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 17:03

Unorganisedchaos2 · 19/05/2025 16:46

Thank you @Ontothenextac your posts are coming across as a bit argumentative and Im not sure what your trying to achieve?

She wont be having any more sleep overs, as I said its only a few times a year and if we were desperate Id be happy for her to go to my lovely respectful in laws.

When I complained that my Mum had cancelled a trip out with me and 3 week old DD (ten minutes before we were due to leave the house) to spend the day with her boyfriend, she said "Buts he's my priority now and I wont apologies for that"

op seriously you and your daughter deserve better than this pair

BetterWithPockets · 19/05/2025 17:13

I may be missing the point, OP, but could you suggest your DN (but NOT your DSis!) comes to stay with you for a couple of nights? That way you’re in charge of parenting and have zero expectations of your DSis (as she won’t be there), plus — most importantly — you don’t have to be the bad guy with your DD…

outerspacepotato · 19/05/2025 17:19

"Im just not sure how to explain to DD, as Mum has made it clear she and sister have invited her so its my fault she cant go .."

Any invitation to your child that goes not go through you and your husband is an automatic no. That is the rule.

She asks or tells your daughter that she can visit, no. You ask a parent first or the answer is no.

The medication is dangerous. Those need to be kept in a safe spot, not scattered around. She needs to stop showing your daughter meds and talking about her health conditions. You do get she's trying to instill some anxiety in your daughter who is at a suggestible age?

Unorganisedchaos2 · 19/05/2025 17:23

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 17:03

When I complained that my Mum had cancelled a trip out with me and 3 week old DD (ten minutes before we were due to leave the house) to spend the day with her boyfriend, she said "Buts he's my priority now and I wont apologies for that"

op seriously you and your daughter deserve better than this pair

Gosh if forgotten I’d posted about that, my previous posts aren’t painting a great picture are they 😕

I obviously have a lot to think about ..

OP posts:
myplace · 19/05/2025 17:27

Unorganisedchaos2 · 19/05/2025 16:39

I know, Im annoyed at her and Im annoyed at myself that they think they can manipulate me mum said "its so sad DN keeps asking when DD is coming to stay" but I doubled down and said no again.

Thankfully I don't rely on her for childcare but it is making me question if she should be with her unsupervised and I might say that to her, if she cant respect my wishes?

“It would be even sadder if she was hurt because you were determined to take her where she wasn’t safe.”

”It would be even sadder if she missed out on seeing you over this.”

Stop being reasonable. Your mother and sister are manipulative and selfish, prioritising themselves over your DD’s well being.
Get manipulative back. Fight fire with fire. Echo their words to them. Make them explain their batshit behaviour.

Sorry, can I just check, you told her she could go to stay with aunty when you knew she couldn’t?

Did You just try to blame me for making DD sad about something YOU did?

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 17:34

She's made it clear she tolerates me just so she can see DD.

presumably you feel exactly the same, even less inclined to see her infant

Riaanna · 19/05/2025 17:39

Unorganisedchaos2 · 19/05/2025 16:27

Sorry just to be clear I don't think I'm being unreasonable not letting her go and I have no issue telling Mum that she wont be taking her, and telling her off for telling DD that she would be - Im soft but when it comes to DD's safety I wont budge.

Im just not sure how to explain to DD, as Mum has made it clear she and sister have invited her so its my fault she cant go ..

you can’t tell her you don’t trust nanny to keep her safe if she’s regularly spending time alone with nanny.

Unorganisedchaos2 · 19/05/2025 17:42

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 17:34

She's made it clear she tolerates me just so she can see DD.

presumably you feel exactly the same, even less inclined to see her infant

Not at all, we were last together at Easter and my DH pulled me aside and said “I can see you’re really trying with her but give it up now”

I make far more of an effort with DN than sister does with DD - she didn’t even get her a birthday card this year despite attending her birthday party. I send little letters in the post and gifts, I send videos of me and DD being silly and talking to her.

OP posts:
Unorganisedchaos2 · 19/05/2025 17:45

BetterWithPockets · 19/05/2025 17:13

I may be missing the point, OP, but could you suggest your DN (but NOT your DSis!) comes to stay with you for a couple of nights? That way you’re in charge of parenting and have zero expectations of your DSis (as she won’t be there), plus — most importantly — you don’t have to be the bad guy with your DD…

I offered that they both come and stay at mine for 1 night as a compromise. Sister apparently doesn’t do overnight stays.

It was shut down that DN was asking specifically that DD goes there which is stupid and we have twice as much space, everyone would have a bed instead of sleeping on the sofa at hers

OP posts:
BetterWithPockets · 19/05/2025 17:58

Unorganisedchaos2 · 19/05/2025 17:45

I offered that they both come and stay at mine for 1 night as a compromise. Sister apparently doesn’t do overnight stays.

It was shut down that DN was asking specifically that DD goes there which is stupid and we have twice as much space, everyone would have a bed instead of sleeping on the sofa at hers

Then I think you’ve done your bit, tbh. I think you should be clear with your DM & DD that you’ve suggested an alternative that’s been rejected. No way should you be the bad guy here…

FourLeafedToadstool · 19/05/2025 18:01

@BetterWithPockets I disagree actually. It will make OP seem more unreasonable. DS/DN/DM will all say oh but DS allowed DN to stay, now it should be your turn to stay with DS but OP won't allow it. How unreasonable!

For the sake of your sanity, cut back to gifts for DN, occasional contact at your DM's. It may sound mean, but stop with all the silly videos, it's not fair on your niece.

I was where you were 8 years ago. My "D"S got more and more outrageous is her desire to use my DC to annoy me. She would invite them over and then tell them how mean we were not to allow it, give them sweets to do things we had said not to do, gave them stuff they weren't allowed to eat so they were ill and very nearly killing them. All because she wanted to annoy me by telling them to do something they'd been told not to do. DP fall in with her manipulation and of course I'm the one being guilt tripped because I'm breaking up the family.

Please, do what I didn't. Set some boundaries. And be honest with your DD. You can start by saying "DS is unkind." "It wasn't fair of her to ask you that, that's a decision for me and daddy to make"

TheFormidableMrsC · 19/05/2025 18:01

I’d be doing your DN a massive favour and reporting her mother for neglect.

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 18:06

Unorganisedchaos2 · 19/05/2025 17:42

Not at all, we were last together at Easter and my DH pulled me aside and said “I can see you’re really trying with her but give it up now”

I make far more of an effort with DN than sister does with DD - she didn’t even get her a birthday card this year despite attending her birthday party. I send little letters in the post and gifts, I send videos of me and DD being silly and talking to her.

But why? Why do you want someone In your life let alone your daughter’s who behaves as you have outlined on this and other threads.

honeyrider · 19/05/2025 18:07

Your sister needs to be reported to SS for neglect.

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 18:08

I would be very concerned about my DN in your shoes OP

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 18:09

Walking out to the bus and shops etc without any shoes on?

Surely passers by have commented, very concerned?

Outrageistheopiateofthemasses · 19/05/2025 18:12

A lot of what you have posted suggests that social services might need to do a review to be honest.

But no, I would absolutely not let her anywhere near my child.

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 18:13

Hopefully when the little girl starts school, the school will be concerned and get the wheels in motion

nomas · 19/05/2025 19:39

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 18:06

But why? Why do you want someone In your life let alone your daughter’s who behaves as you have outlined on this and other threads.

Not the OP, but I’m in the same boat, I’m not close to one of my sisters but I adore my nieces, I’d not be able to stand never seeing them again, they’re like my little sisters.

OneBlossomBee · 19/05/2025 19:54

You are right to be firm and stand up to your mother and sister. Your sister obviously has mental health problems going by all her nedications on top of her chronic pain condition. Keeping your LO safe is top priority and I wouldn't let her go to your mother's for awhile. The concern from your post though is for your 4yo niece too. The fact medication is not put in safe place, the neglect to her welfare, not dressing and playing in public is horrifying. I honestly think you should contact CPS anonymously and say about seeing your niece, just say you have seen the child outside, and she was not wearing clothes. That is neglect!

Hellokittysmum · 19/05/2025 20:21

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 19/05/2025 16:24

I was kind of with your sister re sneaking out for a break, as parenting is exhausting, and I'd love a break

But then the list just got worse 😬😬

Yanbu, but if your mum isn't going to respect your boundaries then I'd be relying on her less for childcare (if you do) and making clear that you are willing to stop communication completely if she can't just bloody listen to you!

xx

Exactly my view.

Yolo12345 · 19/05/2025 20:25

Walking around the neighbourhood, naked and not very well supervised?! That is a massive red flag, OP. TGIS MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN. You should also consider calling social services - yes, on your own sister

drspouse · 19/05/2025 20:27

Your sister is doolally and maybe a child friendly version of that "sometimes Aunty makes bad decisions so it's not really safe for you to go there" might do the trick.
I would have thought both leaving dangerous drugs about with a 4 year old and letting the children play naked in the front garden would warrant reporting to social services (even if just for a quiet word).
4 years old is borderline for nakedness in public I'd say.

godmum56 · 19/05/2025 20:28

Unorganisedchaos2 · 19/05/2025 16:39

I know, Im annoyed at her and Im annoyed at myself that they think they can manipulate me mum said "its so sad DN keeps asking when DD is coming to stay" but I doubled down and said no again.

Thankfully I don't rely on her for childcare but it is making me question if she should be with her unsupervised and I might say that to her, if she cant respect my wishes?

don't think about it or threaten her with it, just do it

Whiteflowerscreed · 19/05/2025 20:31

Ontothenextac · 19/05/2025 18:09

Walking out to the bus and shops etc without any shoes on?

Surely passers by have commented, very concerned?

Agree

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