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Removed child from Y6 SATS

61 replies

arachnidadriana · 14/05/2025 19:57

My child has SEND, significant enough to have warranted an EHCP from Reception age. She’s been at the same small school all through. Now in Y6.

I am so glad we are almost at the point of leaving. Before I get into this I should say I work around education (but am not a teacher) and very much see the good the bad and the ugly when it comes to schools and how children with SEND are and are not assisted. I have seen and heard it all over the last few years, the genuine schools who try their best but cannot do what is needed and the ones who really don’t.

The school have been awful. The first year or two were not so bad (before I had trained fully, and knew better) I muddled along the best I could, ensuring that my child had the support she was supposed to. There was never a time when the school could not accommodate her and what she needed, and the funding was sufficient to cover it. However, there were many many times when they chose to do otherwise. We’ve had the odd lovely teacher, but they’ve never lasted long, a term or two.

By the time I’d realised that really it was not a great place with increasingly poor leadership, my child was firmly settled in and all advice we received (and my own instinct) said a move for her would be disastrous and increase the EBSA. So we’ve stuck it out.

Despite the challenges, my child is very bright and academically able. This year has been geared around preparing for SATS all of which my child has coped with and done well at, with us supporting her at home. However, when it’s come to it last week, she’s just crumbled. She did not want to do the SATS, she’d worked herself up into a right state. Hasn’t been helped by some actions taken at school.

DH and I discussed this, and we’ve always said if she can’t manage the SATS then we’d be happy for her not to sit them. The less formal tests they do always put her at 2y + in her learning. We have no concerns there and her secondary place was sorted out over a year ago due to having the EHCP, not that secondaries really bother with SATS results anyway.

So I contacted school on Monday and truthfully told them, as I always do, that she is having an episode of EBSA, it’s making her unwell, and that I’m not forcing her in. She saw the CAMHS psychologist last week too who agreed with our decision and I explained that. I said we’re happy for her to miss the SATS. I told them that she’ll be staying at home this week, that I was happy to ask her to complete work if they wanted me
to but that I don’t expect them to provide it, given how busy they will be and that if they can’t I will ensure that she completes some homework projects.

I have had several phone calls asking me to reconsider. Which started off as trying to guilt me into ‘think of her future, she needs to do these’ (no, she doesn’t). It culminated in the Head calling me to say that as her year group has only 10 children that her scores make up 10% of the schools results. They know she will very likely excel, and they can’t afford to lose her scores ‘after all the hard work they’ve put in with her over the years’

AIBU to tell them to get to fuck?! They’ve put me through absolute hell the last few years. They’ve lied, they’ve tried to gaslight me, they’ve ignored anything I’ve raised to them until professional documentation has forced their hands, they’ve made it so clear that they’d rather we left and never darkened their doorstep ever again with our pesky child who needs additional help. Despite all of this I have always been polite, calm, civil and professional (even though as a parent it’s really not on me to be professional).

This just takes the absolute biscuit though and I am furious. It’s not just me, I’m not just that one difficult parent. Most children with additional needs end up leaving for elsewhere because the parents just cannot deal with the schools behaviour. I’ve lost count of the number that’ve gone over the years. There’s a reason there’s only ten children (out of a possible eighteen!) left at the end of year 6.

AIBU??

OP posts:
Florally · 14/05/2025 19:59

My kids high schools used sats results to set them. Will you not need that?

mummytoonetryingfortwo · 14/05/2025 20:00

YANBU. Fuck them. Tell them they can either make provision for her to sit them in an environment she’s totally comfortable with, or they can do one

TheNightingalesStarling · 14/05/2025 20:00

The only thing SATs do for a pupil is the computer generated Target grade for GCSEs. And by the sound of it, you've got more important things to worry about, like creating an environment where your DD can thrive.

hoopoemagic · 14/05/2025 20:02

Calmly, professionally and politely tell them to fuck right off.

PumpkinPie2016 · 14/05/2025 20:05

If she is distressed by the thought of SATs then no matter how bright she is, it is unlikely she would be able to give it her best shot anyway.

Her not doing the SATs will not impact her- secondary can use other information to set her if needs be.

I think you are absolutely right to withdraw her.

Freshair87 · 14/05/2025 20:07

Agree with everyone, you sound like a great mum!

TellerTuesday · 14/05/2025 20:08

100% tell them to fuck right off. DD is sitting hers this week and there are 3 children (class of 30) not present, one of which has a parent that’s a year 6 teacher (different school). The pressure that school have put on them has been ridiculous, they were doing 4 practice tests each day last week and there has been at least one per day since they went back after Easter. Luckily DD has been mainly unbothered about them but a lot of other children are tearful and stressed, it’s not fair on them at all.

Abigaillovesholidays · 14/05/2025 20:10

Your child's wellbeing is more important than their percentages!

YorkshireIndie · 14/05/2025 20:15

It is sad there is still this pressure on children to do their SATs. I remember my sister crying because she had been told it was the most important thing in her whole life

shellyleppard · 14/05/2025 20:17

You have done the right thing withdrawing from school. Well done op, sometimes you have to stand up for the children. The pressure will be a lot worse when it gets to GCSE level though..... good luck x

Hollowvoice · 14/05/2025 20:18

They want her to bring up their results. SATs do not matter in the slightest for the children, it's all about the school.
So you'd think they would work with you to figure out a way your DD could be comfortable sitting them, I'm sorry for you and your DD that they haven't done so.

My youngest has EBSA, attendance about 20% and surprised us all by declaring she wanted to sit SATs. To their credit school explored options to make it work for her. It's been a hard week and I know there's a meltdown coming on Friday but for once they have supported whatever we needed this week. But I know it's rooted in them wanting good results, and knowing she'll pull it out the bag in spite of everything else.
If your school are not willing to work with you then no l would not be concerned about the emotional blackmail

TheeNotoriousPIG · 14/05/2025 20:26

From the Head's reaction alone, it is clear that they care more about the school's shiny record than they do about your daughter. The Head is merely trying to guilt-trip you with, "...after all the hard work we've put in with her over the years".

Your instincts are right. Your child is more important than her school.

Bourbonversuscustardcream · 14/05/2025 20:31

I have a year six with ASD doing SATs atm. I have really encouraged mine to take them having put so much work in and for their own confidence and they’ve found it ok in the end - but you can hardly force children into school at their age and at a certain level of anxiety it’s just counterproductive to sit exams anyway. If a CAHMs psychologist has agreed your daughter shouldn’t sit them then that’s pretty definitive and I’d point out to the school they’re asking you to ignore medical advice.

My understanding though is that if they’re off sick this week they’ll be doing SATs next week, having been segregated from their peers in the interim. If you’re sure she’s not sitting them then you probably need her to stay off next week too.

Timpot · 14/05/2025 20:37

I dunno, she's learnt that she can't manage tests, which might be an issue at GCSE. I would have suggested she have a good try at the first one in a small room with as much comfort support as possible - wear a favourite hoody, use a special pen, whatever - and I would collect her after or even part way through if she needs me to. How will she know if she would have been ok if she never faced that fear?

IButtleSir · 14/05/2025 20:45

@Hollowvoice is absolutely right- the SATs do not benefit your daughter at all. They are simply a measure of the school. Hopefully her absence and subsequent lowering of their average will trigger an Ofsted and they will be held accountable for their uselessness.

sakuraspring · 14/05/2025 20:54

Totally not unreasonable.
I wish I had done the same for my child. I am appalled at her school. Whenever they weren't going a test this week they have been making them do more revision.

And that's before we even think about the fact that the head teacher has been helping some of the children with the answers (my son observed this when he did sats two years ago too, I reported it but nothing happened) Angry

sakuraspring · 14/05/2025 20:55

Timpot · 14/05/2025 20:37

I dunno, she's learnt that she can't manage tests, which might be an issue at GCSE. I would have suggested she have a good try at the first one in a small room with as much comfort support as possible - wear a favourite hoody, use a special pen, whatever - and I would collect her after or even part way through if she needs me to. How will she know if she would have been ok if she never faced that fear?

Edited

There's plenty of time to do heaps of tests at secondary

Rooroobear · 14/05/2025 21:00

I’d do what’s best for your child op.

my child’s high school don’t use sats to set. They do a little test at high school early in yr 7 however they dont get properly set until yr9 and options. You do you and look after your child x

NineteenSeventyNine · 14/05/2025 21:05

They can absolutely get to fuck. God this makes me angry - your poor DD, being treated as some sort of results machine with no regard for her wellbeing. YANBU, you sound like a great mum and I wish I’d done the same for my DC.

P.S. Not all secondary schools have sets based on SATS results and those who do generally conduct their own assessments before long anyway to ensure kids are in the “right” stream. SATS don’t benefit children in any way - they’re purely for schools.

User2346 · 14/05/2025 21:06

You are absolutely right I should have told my ds primary school to fuck right off. It is their fault entirely that they didn’t teach him properly or honour his EHCP that he failed. Fast forward to a supportive secondary 2 years later with lots of emphasis on wellbeing and catching up he is flourishing beyond our expectations exceeding all his targets.

sakuraspring · 14/05/2025 21:08

Yes my son's secondary school test early in year 7 and then regularly shuffle children between sets all the way until GCSEs.

surreygirl1987 · 14/05/2025 21:11

Timpot · 14/05/2025 20:37

I dunno, she's learnt that she can't manage tests, which might be an issue at GCSE. I would have suggested she have a good try at the first one in a small room with as much comfort support as possible - wear a favourite hoody, use a special pen, whatever - and I would collect her after or even part way through if she needs me to. How will she know if she would have been ok if she never faced that fear?

Edited

I disagree. She's learned that her mum has her back and that her needs matter. That's a really valuable lesson.

I'm a teacher. Just because a child struggled with SATs doesn't mean they'll struggle with GCSEs. And if they do? Accommodations are put in place. But these are worked on over a long period of time, and have the child's best interest at heart. It doesn't sound like anything in this situation has the OP's daughter's best interest at heart (apart from the OP).

legoplaybook · 14/05/2025 21:15

I wouldn't give a thought to GCSEs in 5 years time yet!

The secondary school may use SATs to set classes, they may not - lots use their own CATs. Even if they do, they will just have to use other information to set your daughter, it's not an insurmountable problem.

HeyPooPooHead · 14/05/2025 21:22

Some school leadership have little capacity for professional reflection.

Childs health, well-being and happiness is priority. As a parent with overview you are best placed to make the decision around sitting or not sitting SATS. You know your child best.

Year 6 SATs are unreliable in regards to setting at secondary level.

CATS are more informative in regards to ability.

Timpot · 14/05/2025 21:30

surreygirl1987 · 14/05/2025 21:11

I disagree. She's learned that her mum has her back and that her needs matter. That's a really valuable lesson.

I'm a teacher. Just because a child struggled with SATs doesn't mean they'll struggle with GCSEs. And if they do? Accommodations are put in place. But these are worked on over a long period of time, and have the child's best interest at heart. It doesn't sound like anything in this situation has the OP's daughter's best interest at heart (apart from the OP).

Recognizing that I don't know this particular child or situation, I think as a principle you can still have your child's back and give them that strong message, while enabling participation rather than enabling avoidance. You can support access. SATS are a safe risk for an able student. The fear is of the pressure and the unknown more than being a rational fear based in being unable to access academically. They are one of those situations where I would have done everything to try to support making everything else as easy as possible (clothing, pen, snack, space,) and give an option out ("you can ask teachers to call me half way through the test and I will come...") . She's frightened of something she hasn't tried. That's not unusual, but the only way to reduce that fear long term is to face it and find out it's not as bad or frightening as she thought.