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Removed child from Y6 SATS

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arachnidadriana · 14/05/2025 19:57

My child has SEND, significant enough to have warranted an EHCP from Reception age. She’s been at the same small school all through. Now in Y6.

I am so glad we are almost at the point of leaving. Before I get into this I should say I work around education (but am not a teacher) and very much see the good the bad and the ugly when it comes to schools and how children with SEND are and are not assisted. I have seen and heard it all over the last few years, the genuine schools who try their best but cannot do what is needed and the ones who really don’t.

The school have been awful. The first year or two were not so bad (before I had trained fully, and knew better) I muddled along the best I could, ensuring that my child had the support she was supposed to. There was never a time when the school could not accommodate her and what she needed, and the funding was sufficient to cover it. However, there were many many times when they chose to do otherwise. We’ve had the odd lovely teacher, but they’ve never lasted long, a term or two.

By the time I’d realised that really it was not a great place with increasingly poor leadership, my child was firmly settled in and all advice we received (and my own instinct) said a move for her would be disastrous and increase the EBSA. So we’ve stuck it out.

Despite the challenges, my child is very bright and academically able. This year has been geared around preparing for SATS all of which my child has coped with and done well at, with us supporting her at home. However, when it’s come to it last week, she’s just crumbled. She did not want to do the SATS, she’d worked herself up into a right state. Hasn’t been helped by some actions taken at school.

DH and I discussed this, and we’ve always said if she can’t manage the SATS then we’d be happy for her not to sit them. The less formal tests they do always put her at 2y + in her learning. We have no concerns there and her secondary place was sorted out over a year ago due to having the EHCP, not that secondaries really bother with SATS results anyway.

So I contacted school on Monday and truthfully told them, as I always do, that she is having an episode of EBSA, it’s making her unwell, and that I’m not forcing her in. She saw the CAMHS psychologist last week too who agreed with our decision and I explained that. I said we’re happy for her to miss the SATS. I told them that she’ll be staying at home this week, that I was happy to ask her to complete work if they wanted me
to but that I don’t expect them to provide it, given how busy they will be and that if they can’t I will ensure that she completes some homework projects.

I have had several phone calls asking me to reconsider. Which started off as trying to guilt me into ‘think of her future, she needs to do these’ (no, she doesn’t). It culminated in the Head calling me to say that as her year group has only 10 children that her scores make up 10% of the schools results. They know she will very likely excel, and they can’t afford to lose her scores ‘after all the hard work they’ve put in with her over the years’

AIBU to tell them to get to fuck?! They’ve put me through absolute hell the last few years. They’ve lied, they’ve tried to gaslight me, they’ve ignored anything I’ve raised to them until professional documentation has forced their hands, they’ve made it so clear that they’d rather we left and never darkened their doorstep ever again with our pesky child who needs additional help. Despite all of this I have always been polite, calm, civil and professional (even though as a parent it’s really not on me to be professional).

This just takes the absolute biscuit though and I am furious. It’s not just me, I’m not just that one difficult parent. Most children with additional needs end up leaving for elsewhere because the parents just cannot deal with the schools behaviour. I’ve lost count of the number that’ve gone over the years. There’s a reason there’s only ten children (out of a possible eighteen!) left at the end of year 6.

AIBU??

OP posts:
Flappybirds · 15/05/2025 13:00

You’ve thought for years that the school is dreadful and is failing your child…. Yet you’ve kept here there?

Jetsettermum · 15/05/2025 13:01

Think of her? 🤣 they are not thinking of her! You have made the right decision OP. They are more concerned about the school stats then the children’s welfare

flossydog · 15/05/2025 13:07

Year 6 Sats are for the school's benefit, not the kids. Not doing them is going to have approximately zero impact on your child's life. I didn't do them and I was put into secondary school sets based on a conversation with the head.

The Head is focusing on the school's KPIs and not the children.

Mischance · 15/05/2025 13:07

Schools who place such emphasis on SATs usually have causes for concern.
Good schools make light of them and do not thrust them down pupils' throats with endless testing.
Time SATs were scrapped.

Namechangedforgoodreasons · 15/05/2025 13:09

If the school has been that awful, I don’t really understand why you’ve kept sending your child there.
If they have put in a lot of work and accommodations for her over the years (and presumably they have, to a reasonable extent, or she wouldn't have reached her current standard unless you’ve also been teaching her yourself) I have some sympathy for the Head. It’s not his/her fault that SATs results are so crucial to how primary schools are judged.
I'm not an expert on EBSA and obviously I defer to the better knowledge of you and the CAMHS adviser, but I would have thought that since your DD was likely to do well in the exams and not find them too difficult it would have been a positive experience for her and a boost to her confidence and willingness to go to school. The run-up and preparation has probably been much stressful than the tests themselves would have been.

Saucery · 15/05/2025 13:15

What accomodations would your DD need and what are the school's reasons for not offering them? Schools can (and should) offer things like a separate room, extra time (1/4 of the time of the whole paper), a reader for everything apart from the Reading paper and rest breaks. If these would enable your DD to access the tests but her school are refusing then I don't blame you for withdrawing her.

The6thQueen · 15/05/2025 13:20

The really sad thing is, this all stems from the blame and accountability process that is OFSTED and the DfE. This time next year, if the school were inspected and the data is back that they are underperforming because of the concerns Head raised (whilst honesty is a virtue, I think he took it a bit far) it will effect their rating.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if the inspectors would look at what has happened and say ‘well done, this was the absolutely right decision for the child. She is obviously achieving based on your own data and it would have been a mistake to push her to undertake the tests at detriment to her social and emotional well-being’. Instead, the school is likely to receive blame and negative feedback for the ‘objective measure’ of SATs, which could result in a lower rating result for them (or even special measures/requires improvement and the further scrutiny this entails).
I totally agree with your decision and disagree with how the school has handled it, but I can also understand why this has been their response. How have we got into such a mess?

dovetail22uk · 15/05/2025 13:21

arachnidadriana · 15/05/2025 11:35

It is absolutely not the school’s decision to make. Many parents withdraw their children from SATS (for various reasons unrelated to SEND) and there is nothing the school can do about it. It’s entirely my decision, as the child’s parent, and has been backed by the CAMHS psychologist who is responsible for my child’s care.

I’m happy for her to sit the Y7 tests primarily as they benefit her. I’m already in good contact with her new school as we’ve begun an enhanced transition period, and all of the required adjustments will be made. Additionally, they’ve agreed that in the event that she can’t manage them for whatever reason they will have enough data from her updated EHCP, the last years classroom based testing records plus her cognitive/neuro-assessment (which included a WISC) to initially set her. Sets aren't permanently defined in Y7 anyway, they jiggle them as needed until Y9.

There is no benefit to my child in sitting the Y6 SATS. There is only a benefit to the school and they’re only bothered about her sitting them because she is bright/very able academically and as her year group is so tiny her results would make up 10% of the overall results. They don’t care a hoot for her well-being or any benefit to her, they care about their results being impacted because she’s not sitting them.

I would have been happy for her to sit the SATS if she wanted to, and felt able to. But she doesn’t and isn’t, so that’s that.

There are many tricky things that have to be done in life and wherever possible, when things must be done then they are done. We have absolute nightmares getting her to and engaging with her CAMHS appointments, anything that involves medical care/needles, her extra regular vision testing. It is very, very hard. But those things are essential and non-negotiable, and so, I ensure they are done.

My daughter was very similar to this but didn't have an EHCP until she got to burnout in year 7. Two full school years out of school. We didn't know she was autistic. She started an independent specialist school at the start of year 10 and hasn't missed a day and is now in the thick of GCSEs and hoping to go to mainstream college in September. I think that being in an environment that can meet their needs but also understands what they need is so massively important to enable our children with SEN to thrive in education. I really hope your child gets what they need too xxx

PocketSand · 15/05/2025 14:08

SATS are absolutely in the interests of the school and not the child.

I went through the process of getting extra support for my son (ASD, dyslexic plus many more co morbidities) in SATs only to find that other DC who had applied to local grammar were given the same support so that teaching staff could prompt the right answers! This corruption was in a small village school.

They have nothing to do with ability. Secondary schools don’t use SATs to stream.

1SillySossij · 16/05/2025 00:34

arachnidadriana · 15/05/2025 11:35

It is absolutely not the school’s decision to make. Many parents withdraw their children from SATS (for various reasons unrelated to SEND) and there is nothing the school can do about it. It’s entirely my decision, as the child’s parent, and has been backed by the CAMHS psychologist who is responsible for my child’s care.

I’m happy for her to sit the Y7 tests primarily as they benefit her. I’m already in good contact with her new school as we’ve begun an enhanced transition period, and all of the required adjustments will be made. Additionally, they’ve agreed that in the event that she can’t manage them for whatever reason they will have enough data from her updated EHCP, the last years classroom based testing records plus her cognitive/neuro-assessment (which included a WISC) to initially set her. Sets aren't permanently defined in Y7 anyway, they jiggle them as needed until Y9.

There is no benefit to my child in sitting the Y6 SATS. There is only a benefit to the school and they’re only bothered about her sitting them because she is bright/very able academically and as her year group is so tiny her results would make up 10% of the overall results. They don’t care a hoot for her well-being or any benefit to her, they care about their results being impacted because she’s not sitting them.

I would have been happy for her to sit the SATS if she wanted to, and felt able to. But she doesn’t and isn’t, so that’s that.

There are many tricky things that have to be done in life and wherever possible, when things must be done then they are done. We have absolute nightmares getting her to and engaging with her CAMHS appointments, anything that involves medical care/needles, her extra regular vision testing. It is very, very hard. But those things are essential and non-negotiable, and so, I ensure they are done.

From the House of Commons website 'there is no parental right to withdraw children from sitting SATs. Headteachers have the power to determine whether a particular child should undertake the assessments'

Parker231 · 16/05/2025 21:04

1SillySossij · 16/05/2025 00:34

From the House of Commons website 'there is no parental right to withdraw children from sitting SATs. Headteachers have the power to determine whether a particular child should undertake the assessments'

Edited

And if the parents don’t send their DC’s to school during SATS, the DC doesn’t take them.

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