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To think voting for assisted dying legalisation could be a huge mistake???

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MyLimeGuide · 14/05/2025 07:41

In Scotland they are voting to legalise assisted dying. Looking likely to pass. I am worried this will come to England now. Kier is already proving he doesn't care about old and disabled people so this scares me.
Obviously there are 2 sides but how can people be so ignorant? If passed this could be one of the biggest opportunity for corrupt evil behaviour of saving money on the NHS, care, people literally getting away murder, playing god! No not good. It's so scary.

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Happyher · 17/05/2025 10:25

Tarrybankheidi · 17/05/2025 09:42

I dont think that would work because if you have people in your life who you are worried are the type to pressure you to end your life then surely they would just pressure you to reverse the opt out.

But it would stop professionals broaching the subject.

Tarrybankheidi · 17/05/2025 10:30

Happyher · 17/05/2025 10:25

But it would stop professionals broaching the subject.

As far as I'm aware the professionals would not be allowed to.

Happyher · 17/05/2025 11:17

Tarrybankheidi · 17/05/2025 10:30

As far as I'm aware the professionals would not be allowed to.

Isn’t there some discussion about it being raised when discussing palliative care?

GreenFressia · 17/05/2025 11:27

HRTQueen · 14/05/2025 07:45

It can also allow people who are terminally ill and suffering die peacefully surrounded by those who love and care for them

I have no doubt that the concerns for an ageing population has a lot to do with decisions being made

I am also certain many people who have no or little quality of life will choose the option of assisted dying

What other categories of people will be allowed to die under the bill? Surely it is only for people who are actually dying anyway?

Does it also include degenerative disease?

Think there needs to some more widespread understanding about it.

I definitely don't think it's intended for people who just say that want to die.

Tarrybankheidi · 17/05/2025 11:28

Happyher · 17/05/2025 11:17

Isn’t there some discussion about it being raised when discussing palliative care?

Well if it becomes legal then the option would be there but a professional wouldnt be allowed to push you into it

MiloMinderbinder925 · 17/05/2025 12:33

Tarrybankheidi · 17/05/2025 10:30

As far as I'm aware the professionals would not be allowed to.

Yes, Drs can raise the subject which is why people are concerned about coercion.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/05/2025 12:43

Tarrybankheidi · 17/05/2025 11:28

Well if it becomes legal then the option would be there but a professional wouldnt be allowed to push you into it

And what's to stop them, when it inevitably comes to targets and needing the beds?

Before anyone starts shouting I'd point out that the assurance each case would be subject to a judicial hearing has now been scrapped,which some of us were certain would happen but were called everything from a pig to a dog for saying so

Happyher · 17/05/2025 13:13

Tarrybankheidi · 17/05/2025 11:28

Well if it becomes legal then the option would be there but a professional wouldnt be allowed to push you into it

Maybe but I don’t want anything to do with this option, so whilst I appreciate others do I would like to opt out of it unless I choose to give it consideration. I’ve no fear of my son or daughter trying to influence me in any way

AzureOtter · 17/05/2025 13:17

I support it.

For any reason, physical or mental health or just not wanting to not be alive anymore.

Though that wouldn't be covered in the legislation.

thepariscrimefiles · 17/05/2025 13:41

I feel about the right to assisted dying the same way that I feel about the right to an abortion. If you don't agree with abortion, don't have one but don't take away other people's right to choose.

1457bloom · 17/05/2025 14:43

Has parliament just kicked this bill into the long grass?

Tarrybankheidi · 17/05/2025 15:15

MiloMinderbinder925 · 17/05/2025 12:33

Yes, Drs can raise the subject which is why people are concerned about coercion.

Big difference between mentioning its an option and a doctor coercing a patient into ending their life.

TooBigForMyBoots · 17/05/2025 15:17

thepariscrimefiles · 17/05/2025 13:41

I feel about the right to assisted dying the same way that I feel about the right to an abortion. If you don't agree with abortion, don't have one but don't take away other people's right to choose.

That's exactly how I feel too.

Tarrybankheidi · 17/05/2025 15:17

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/05/2025 12:43

And what's to stop them, when it inevitably comes to targets and needing the beds?

Before anyone starts shouting I'd point out that the assurance each case would be subject to a judicial hearing has now been scrapped,which some of us were certain would happen but were called everything from a pig to a dog for saying so

They have less than 6 months to live they wont be blocking the beds for that long!

Honestly its like everyone thinks their doctor is the next Harold Shipman

Tarrybankheidi · 17/05/2025 15:19

Happyher · 17/05/2025 13:13

Maybe but I don’t want anything to do with this option, so whilst I appreciate others do I would like to opt out of it unless I choose to give it consideration. I’ve no fear of my son or daughter trying to influence me in any way

Well if your ever unfortunate to find yourself in this situation you can opt out, you just say no thanks.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 17/05/2025 15:23

Tarrybankheidi · 17/05/2025 15:15

Big difference between mentioning its an option and a doctor coercing a patient into ending their life.

It obviously depends on context.

Tarrybankheidi · 17/05/2025 15:28

MiloMinderbinder925 · 17/05/2025 15:23

It obviously depends on context.

Well if it becomes legal then time will tell which doctors are secretly mass murderers in waiting. Personally I think the vast majority of doctors and nurses will just continue doing their job of helping people.

AzureOtter · 17/05/2025 15:39

Tarrybankheidi · 17/05/2025 15:15

Big difference between mentioning its an option and a doctor coercing a patient into ending their life.

What possible reason would a medical professional have to coerce someone into ending their life?

Tarrybankheidi · 17/05/2025 15:43

AzureOtter · 17/05/2025 15:39

What possible reason would a medical professional have to coerce someone into ending their life?

People seem paranoid that they are all salivating at the syringe to get rid of their patients

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 17/05/2025 16:02

I wonder how much of the die hard resistance to assisted dying is religion based.

In addition to the paranoia based one.

Tarrybankheidi · 17/05/2025 16:07

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 17/05/2025 16:02

I wonder how much of the die hard resistance to assisted dying is religion based.

In addition to the paranoia based one.

That probably comes into it for a lot of people. Like with abortion, and they both tie in with people who think life is sooo precious that we must be kept 'alive' no matter the suffering.

AzureOtter · 17/05/2025 16:13

Tarrybankheidi · 17/05/2025 15:43

People seem paranoid that they are all salivating at the syringe to get rid of their patients

It's so strange.

And we know the opinions of the paranoid so they'd probably say 'well the government wants to get rid of old people because they're expensive'.

Which isn't as simple as that but even if it was, there's a huge stretch to thinking your average GP or Psychiatrist wants to get rid of anyone. a) they're very likely not psychopaths and b) likely don't really give a shit enough about government costs to want rid of the elderly and disabled and c) know the elderly and disabled keep them in business so it would be working against their own interests to be involved in reducing their numbers.

BashfulClam · 17/05/2025 16:14

My husband uncle had a brain tumour, he died in an agony that none of the drugs touched. He died screaming in pain…I don’t want that for anyone I love.

Happyher · 17/05/2025 16:35

Tarrybankheidi · 17/05/2025 15:19

Well if your ever unfortunate to find yourself in this situation you can opt out, you just say no thanks.

Be careful what you wish for

Tarrybankheidi · 17/05/2025 16:39

Happyher · 17/05/2025 16:35

Be careful what you wish for

Care to explain what you mean?

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