To stop my son from presenting as Jewish at school

[Wonderberry]

I really wish this wasn't the case.

My son wants to wear his kippah (skullcap) at school. This is entirely his choice, and something that he has chosen to start wearing recently. He just wants to express his religious and cultural background.

Unfortunately, I don't feel like he would be safe to do so. I hate that this is where we are at currently in the UK, but I know it is the reality. He goes to a community school in London, and doesn't understand why he cannot wear his kippah at school. On cultural days, he also cannot share his culture either.

I knew that from my teaching days as we were a community school and taught about all religions. But faith schools primarily just teach their own faith (or certainly the catholic schools did).

But you have consistently minimised attacks you have been told are happening to people. In fact you came on a thread about a seven year old boy to tell his mother Jews shouldn't expect be to be treated with kid gloves.

So because islamophobes demand Muslims speak out against terrorists, you think Jews should be made by antisemites to speak out against Israel? You are of the opinion that two wrongs make a right? Interesting take on it, I suppose.

It would be anti-Semitic of you to demand Jews speak about Israel at all. So I'd hope you'd never do that, because then you'd be an antisemite. And as I'm assuming you wouldn't agree with that label, I'm also assuming you weren't actually suggesting that Jews be made to speak out against Israel in which case you should probably clarify what you were actually trying to say. Because at the moment, your post hasn't made you look particularly great.

Please link to a post where I have done that. I think you are confusing me with someone else.

www.wisdomlib.org/religion/journal/archives-of-social-sciences-of-religions/d/doc1448033.html

Not the Catholic school I went to. We definitely learned about other faiths.

Mind you, I'd file knowing that it is called a kippah under "basic general knowledge" rather than "learning about other faiths" as such.

A child who has panic attacks walking to school, who is falling to pieces in therapy because some horrible shits decided to attack her and call her a p. Scares to walk to the shops by herself. Her school attendance has plummeted and she spends breaks and lunches with staff because she is now so anxious.

This makes it all the more bizarre that you don't have more empathy for the OP.

Really? Interesting. I only came across that later on. However I did go to a school run by a religious order in the 80s. I suspect the RE curriculum school at catholic schools is broader and better balanced these days.
There were also lots of basic facts about Islam that I only came across in adulthood to be fair. Same reason.

It’s just being a twat, if you’re on a thread, that literally names it and is about it and you’re still like a hat, then they’re doing that deliberately.

Just to be clear, are you saying that Jewish people are obligated to speak out against Netanyahu? And that not doing so puts Jewish children at risk?

I do have empathy for the OP. Lots.
I have not responded negatively to her at any point.

However I have responded negatively to the mum who made her daughter believe she is at risk from NHS practitioners who wear 'free Gaza' badges and the posters who are claiming that the people attending the Free Gaza marches are a risk to the OPs son. The point being that being opposed to the Israeli government's actions Gaza does not equate with being antisemitic or a risk to Jews.

Feel free to check back through my posts.

Islamophobes shouldn’t have the right to be required to criticise terrorism etc.. you are right. I overstepped. No community should have to apologise for their correlegiinsts behaviours… I apologise. I guess I am (poorly expressing) what the OP is (rightly) concerned about, in that Israel’s actions re Gaza do create extra risk for all UK Jews, unfortunately, I apologise if my comment was not well put…. Sorry all.

I am saying the latter for sure, but sure that the latter is probably true. Not that it would make a blind bit of difference to the type of scum that would commit antisemitic attacks (or islamophobic, or any other xenophobic behaviours). So first point I made is probably irrelevant, good point well made ❤️

I agree that people working in the NHS shouldn't be wearing "Free Gaza" badges.

It makes the NHS look institutionally hostile towards Jewish people.

Why? Does that not make the assumption that Jewish people automatically support Israel?

No it doesn't.

It's just a completely unnecessary reminder that in a war between Jews and Muslims, with both sides having some extremely nasty and dangerous leaders, most of British society has taken the side of the Muslims to the point where many of them are wearing badges and flying flags and protesting about it. Bearing in mind that Muslims aren't even that popular in the UK, it must make Jews feel really hated. And Jews have a particularly valid reason to feel incredibly afraid when it seems like most people hate them, don't they?

Healthcare workers should stick to doing their jobs, to the best of their ability, regardless of the race or religion of the person they are treating, and leave their political opinions at home.

I don’t think nhs staff, school staff or any govt staff should wear any badges supporting any cause whether it be a country or issue.

'Bearing in mind muslims aren't even that popular in the uk'

It's shameful that two separate posters have said this about both Jews and Muslims not being very 'popular'. It's not acceptable to say such a thing about Jews and neither is it to say about Muslims.

And this is where the debate goes off piste. People are not 'taking sides with the muslims' they are objecting to genocide.
And that is where this thread keeps getting detailed from the OP.
I am not falling down that rabbit hole again.
I know many people who want to see an end to the occupation of Gaza, the conflict, to genocide etc. and not one of them is doing so to side with Muslims or because they have any negative feelings towards Jews. That accusation is gaslighting.

I think the numbers thing is crucial. I have Muslim relatives who worry about their daughters wearing head scarfs to school because of the abuse they get. But the thing they have is ‘safety in numbers’ in the sense that there are quite a lot of them together. I think because Jewish children are fewer in number at some schools, they must feel extra vulnerable. Horrid.

OP I understand your concerns x

Antisemites are the ones responsible for antisemitism. And saying that Jewish people not speaking out against Netanyahu puts Jewish children at risk is antisemitism.

This thread was never intended to be a debate about the conflict, so you've got some nerve talking about it being derailed.

Indeed and well done on the government cracking down on NHS staff visibly showing their political allegiance.

Again I am literally responding to another post not bringing the topic up. . I 'have some nerve' to do so. You are not even engaging with what I have written.

Keep your nastiness to yourself. This is a public forum.

Keep your son safe OP. I think this thread tells you everything you need to know x