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AIBU?

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Is he 'sensitive' or controlling?

306 replies

Finulasfriend · 05/05/2025 23:20

We've been seeing each other five months, but taking it slowly because I've been working really hard and studying too, and he's involved in a research project that takes him away a lot. Nice guy, was beginning to think that this time I'd struck lucky and had found someone uncomplicated. I'm friendly with one of his former colleagues who talked about him and put us in touch professionally and things developed from there. Our first RL date was the best I've ever been on. Immediate chemistry, lots to talk about, made me laugh.

Before our second date he told me that he's sensitive to perfumes and would I mind not wearing scent when we were due to meet? No problem for me: I don't normally wear it anyway. After the fourth date we slept together in a hotel and spent the following day with each other. He asked me to shower with unperfumed body wash before we had sex and was quite concerned about how scented my Fussy deodorant was. As a result I had to go out and find an unscented natural deodorant the next morning. It didn't seem very effective and our nice time together was slightly marred by me feeling self-conscious about whiffy pits. I get that some people have intolerances to perfume, so I figured it was just a matter of changing products. He's also asked me to change my moisturiser and foundation: apparently the foundation is scented, though I never noticed it.

I assumed that if he was so sensitive and wanting to get up close and personal with me he'd take a daily anti-histamine or something to deal with his intolerance, but he doesn't. When I asked how he copes travelling on the tube and buses, or conferences, he says he just puts up with it. But he can't put up with my deodorant...

The first time I drove him in my car he got in and immediately fiddled with the heating and aircon without asking me whether I was comfortable, or whether I minded the aircon on. It seemed rude, and when I said 'Thanks for asking about my preferences' sarcastically he was quite defensive and talked about getting travel sick and needing plenty of fresh air. Again, his needs seem to have overridden mine.

We've stayed with each other several times now. I feel quite at home with him, no horrible surprises, and it's easy — except that he has total silence in his home and gets quite agitated if the neighbours make any noise. If I want to listen to anything I have to do it using earbuds. His home, his rules: I can do that. On Sunday he arrived at my place while I was preparing some food in the kitchen and listening to a podcast, which I was playing on a speaker. It wasn't very loud. He walked in, pulled a face and immediately turned it off. I said 'Oi, I was listening to that' and he said 'Well, you can't listen to it when I'm here, can you?'

I found myself saying that he was welcome to come and spend time with me in my home, but if I wanted to listen to something at reasonable volume, without earbuds, then he was going to have to tolerate it. He thought that was unreasonable and I ended up saying that I didn't think we were going to be able to enjoy spending time together if everything had to revolve around his sensitivities. He left, upset. We had a long conversation in the evening. He says he's confused: he's falling for me, he'd really like to make this relationship work — but he's sensitive to noise and smells and he really needs someone who'll understand that and be happy to change her life to accommodate him.

I'm all over the place at the moment. Am I being selfish? Don't relationships involve give and take? Do I just get over my sense of being controlled by his sensitivity and just get used to silence and unscented deodorant and being a bit too cool in the car? AIBU?

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PrettyParrot · 05/05/2025 23:45

Yeah, no. I went out with one who could only sleep with complete darkness and silence, and I wasn't allowed to touch him in any way (indeed he preferred not to share a bed to sleep). That ended pretty quickly!!

Takenoprisoner · 05/05/2025 23:45

BlondiePortz · 05/05/2025 23:42

Well in situations like this I would reverse it if a women was acting like this what would MN say? apart from 'she has anxiety so he needs to be understanding''

But regardless I would personally think it was controlling so would move on

Don't think so. where any hint of anxiety is detected, posters are asked, 'what help are you getting for your anxiety?' If it was a woman was posting this she'd be getting a bashing on here.

wobblyweasel · 05/05/2025 23:46

Yes, I’m afraid this one has to be set free and take his noise/smell intolerance with him. So rude just turning off your podcast! Everything is on his terms. He’d hate someone like me, my DH says I’m the noisiest person he’s ever known. Confused

FairCat · 05/05/2025 23:51

Controlling. You can be sure scent and sound are just the start and there will be any number of 'reasons' to restrict your life to fit this person's whims.
More red flags than a Moscow Mayday parade.

JumpingPumpkin · 05/05/2025 23:55

Duckswaddle · 05/05/2025 23:25

Definitely not. He’s making my skin crawl and that’s just from your description.

Me too.

WorthyOtter · 06/05/2025 00:00

He seems hard work and like he isn't going to be compatible with you. I would leave it now before it goes any further

StripyShirt · 06/05/2025 00:08

I'm also sensitive to artificial smell and some noise, but this chap is in a different league. I think it's genuine, but he could have handled ot a lot better. I'd abandon him.

stampin · 06/05/2025 00:11

Does this mean no tv, no cinema, no music?

Finulasfriend · 06/05/2025 00:13

Weirdly, he's not as hard work as some of the other men I've gone out with. Pretty civilised, punctual, decent sense of humour, relatively clean and tidy, interested in the world, omnivorous, 7 out of 10 in bed and a decent cook. Not a farter, a secret dope-head or a beer-mat collector. I was hoping I could overlook the need for silence and no smells, but I can't. He's a gonner

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Avatartar · 06/05/2025 00:16

At the very least, imagine being scared to fart incase it was the wrong type! It’s hard enough not to do such undesirable natural functions near someone new, but this puts another layer of anxiety in there.
Seriously he sounds like a controlling tosser, stick some prawns in his overnight bag when you wave him off ( to his wife/ girlfriend)

Finulasfriend · 06/05/2025 00:17

stampin · 06/05/2025 00:11

Does this mean no tv, no cinema, no music?

He watches TV, but it's what he wants to watch and when he's a in a mood for watching it. Ditto music, but it has to be on so low in the background that at times I can barely hear it. We never got as far as going to the cinema, though we did go to the theatre a couple of time and he seemed to cope with that — and with all the audience with their scent and smelly moisturisers.

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Crushed23 · 06/05/2025 00:20

I actually got ANGRY on your behalf at the bit where he turns off the podcast you’re listening to in your own home. How dare he?! I would definitely throw this one back.

Shitmonger · 06/05/2025 00:21

Ugh, no. Glad you’re getting rid of him. He’s using these “sensitivities” as a way to test how vulnerable you are to being controlled and dictated to. So far you’ve gone along with it. If you stayed he would ramp up the control. I mean, he’s already got you not using your own deodorant and foundation, ffs!

It’s also quite princess-y for him to constantly insist on his comfort above all else, including basic manners. Absolute ick.

ItGhoul · 06/05/2025 00:29

Can this delicate creature also feel a single pea under 20 feather mattresses, like the Hans Christian Andersen princess?

My libido would have shrivelled and died the moment he asked me not to wear perfume, let alone when he revealed the rest of his behaviour. I find that sort of fussy, neurotic behaviour incredibly annoying and deeply unattractive. I like people to be a bit more robust.

Also, only 7 out of 10 in bed? A seven’s not a keeper.

Chickensky · 06/05/2025 00:34

Duckswaddle · 05/05/2025 23:22

Too much hard work. Leave this one alone.

This does nail it in my opinion. It's been only 5 months it should be easy street for you both. You will you find someone more compatible. He' s hard work now, imagine how hard it will be when you are past the honeymoon stage.

ItGhoul · 06/05/2025 00:34

BoundaryGirl3939 · 05/05/2025 23:28

I thuink hes just super sensitive to smells and noise.
I am super sensitive to noise and sometimes wish I lived in Japan where people are naturally quiet and don't shriek or talk loudly. I also don't like having a radio on when I'm having a conversation. Too much going on via the airwaves. I'm not being controlling, I just can't handle it.

But presumably you don’t demand that other people live their lives in silence just to accommodate your sensory problem?

Fraaances · 06/05/2025 00:35

Controlling AF… I bet he doesn’t bitch and whine on the plane when people wear scented products or watch things on their device. He’s also very rude turning off your radio.

echt · 06/05/2025 00:38

He's certainly entitled to feel as sensitive as he likes, but his interference in your own home!!!!

Kick him to the kerb.

Hedgingmybetching · 06/05/2025 00:40

I would have maybe accommodated some stuff but him turning off what you're listening to instead of asking, "hey Finula is it okay if you turn your podcast off please as its setting off my misophonia." Would piss me off.

However even if he did ask apologetically every time, you have every right to not want to change massive aspects of your life to suit a new partner, including what you wear and what you listen to. It sounds like too much hard work and I just wouldn't be enjoying myself anymore, personally I like to smell nice and listen to music/podcasts. You are not being fussy.

Dramatic · 06/05/2025 00:52

The one and only time I've told my husband not to wear a specific aftershave was when it was the same one my abusive ex wore, I just couldn't stand the smell and he was more than happy to get rid of it. Relationships are about compromise, but to turn something off as soon as you walk in, we wouldn't even dream of doing that to each other now and we've lived together for 7 years.

Hoohaz · 06/05/2025 00:56

I don't like strong perfume smells, but I wouldn't dream of asking someone to change their moisturiser. Moisturiser smells like moisturiser.

The podcast thing I can see his point. If I turned up at someone's house and they were midway through a podcast I would feel rude speaking to the person I had cone to see as I would be talking over something they were listening to. Leaving it on isnt very welcoming, but it should have been you turning it off, not him. Likewise, he should have waited for you to ask whether he was warm/cool enough in the car, rather than just start fiddling.

Chickensky · 06/05/2025 00:56

Finulasfriend · 05/05/2025 23:24

So it's not me being too fussy?

"except that he has total silence in his home and gets quite agitated if the neighbours make any noise. If I want to listen to anything I have to do it using earbuds"
I get you are playing his rule his house but be aware if this goes further these will be the rules he expects in a shared house.

"..spent the following day with each other. He asked me to shower with unperfumed body wash before we had sex and was quite concerned about how scented my Fussy deodorant was."
So he was happy for the sex and all the associated whiffs when it was happening abut then made his controlling demands after the event b

"As a result I had to go out and find an unscented natural deodorant the next morning. It didn't seem very effective and our nice time together was slightly marred by me feeling self-conscious"
You gave in to those demands and it affected your self esteem. Well done for recognising this man has made you feel not good based on his asks and also remember he was very happy to be with you the night before (do not confuse that fact with the fact he was now making you uncomfortable).

"he was quite defensive and talked about getting travel sick and needing plenty of fresh air. Again, his needs seem to have overridden mine"
Spot on, you are starting to see that this isn't right or good also part or him overriding your needs or wants as per above with the deodorant. Well done for spotting someone not making you feel good. And the signs.

He says he's confused: he's falling for me, he'd really like to make this relationship work — but he's sensitive to noise and smells and he really needs someone who'll understand that and be happy to change her life to accommodate him.
"Playing to your empathetic side and promises a good relationship whilst you work to his rules"

Let this one go if you haven't already as I've tried to show you all the red flags from your original post.

Strawberrycupcakes · 06/05/2025 01:01

He sounds a lot like my brother.
He’s neurodiverse .
but that doesn’t give someone a free pass to be rude or demanding.
my brother never learned to compromise. neurodiverse people can have their sensitivities but can still be lovely people. This guy sounds like he would suck all the joy out of your life.

Smudgerbabe · 06/05/2025 01:03

I feel like you're being a bit insensitive to be honest in one respect. I'm also sensitive to smells and also noise (misophonia) and sounds and I also can't put up with my husband listening to a podcast out loud. I have to ask the dog groomer not to use any perfumed scent on the dogs, can't have flowers in the house or have any kind of strong smelling sprays. I'm also sensitive to the smell from candles. However, there is a way of going about asking for these things, for example if it's your car or your house I would ask you if it was okay to put on the air conditioning or switch off the podcast, I wouldn't just do it. We hook everything up to ear buds, problem solved. Just because he's forced to have to put up with it on the tube it doesn't mean he wants to be forced to put up with it when he's at home relaxing. I've been married for over 10 years now and none of this has been an issue with my husband, we sort of have a bit of a laugh about it sometimes (I also can't cope with the sound of him eating!! lol) . If you're not prepared to make compromises for his sensitivities then he's not the one for you. And if he's just demanding that you make compromises rather than asking you, then again he's not the one. You also talk about your 'needs' but surely having a sensitivity trumps your need for car cooling or podcasts? By the way allergy tablets don't work on this type of thing. It doesn't sound to me like either of you are properly communicating with each other or compromising, doesn't sound a good situation, I'd get out now.

Delphiniumandlupins · 06/05/2025 01:04

He can have silence in his own home. In yours he can wear headphones if he doesn't want to hear your podcast. You have been willing to change to meet his sensitivities but he doesn't seem to want to consider making any. Changing settings in your home and car without asking is very rude - sure he wouldn't accept you coming into his space and turning up the heating, changing the bathroom towels or rearranging his bookshelves.