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Is he 'sensitive' or controlling?

306 replies

Finulasfriend · 05/05/2025 23:20

We've been seeing each other five months, but taking it slowly because I've been working really hard and studying too, and he's involved in a research project that takes him away a lot. Nice guy, was beginning to think that this time I'd struck lucky and had found someone uncomplicated. I'm friendly with one of his former colleagues who talked about him and put us in touch professionally and things developed from there. Our first RL date was the best I've ever been on. Immediate chemistry, lots to talk about, made me laugh.

Before our second date he told me that he's sensitive to perfumes and would I mind not wearing scent when we were due to meet? No problem for me: I don't normally wear it anyway. After the fourth date we slept together in a hotel and spent the following day with each other. He asked me to shower with unperfumed body wash before we had sex and was quite concerned about how scented my Fussy deodorant was. As a result I had to go out and find an unscented natural deodorant the next morning. It didn't seem very effective and our nice time together was slightly marred by me feeling self-conscious about whiffy pits. I get that some people have intolerances to perfume, so I figured it was just a matter of changing products. He's also asked me to change my moisturiser and foundation: apparently the foundation is scented, though I never noticed it.

I assumed that if he was so sensitive and wanting to get up close and personal with me he'd take a daily anti-histamine or something to deal with his intolerance, but he doesn't. When I asked how he copes travelling on the tube and buses, or conferences, he says he just puts up with it. But he can't put up with my deodorant...

The first time I drove him in my car he got in and immediately fiddled with the heating and aircon without asking me whether I was comfortable, or whether I minded the aircon on. It seemed rude, and when I said 'Thanks for asking about my preferences' sarcastically he was quite defensive and talked about getting travel sick and needing plenty of fresh air. Again, his needs seem to have overridden mine.

We've stayed with each other several times now. I feel quite at home with him, no horrible surprises, and it's easy — except that he has total silence in his home and gets quite agitated if the neighbours make any noise. If I want to listen to anything I have to do it using earbuds. His home, his rules: I can do that. On Sunday he arrived at my place while I was preparing some food in the kitchen and listening to a podcast, which I was playing on a speaker. It wasn't very loud. He walked in, pulled a face and immediately turned it off. I said 'Oi, I was listening to that' and he said 'Well, you can't listen to it when I'm here, can you?'

I found myself saying that he was welcome to come and spend time with me in my home, but if I wanted to listen to something at reasonable volume, without earbuds, then he was going to have to tolerate it. He thought that was unreasonable and I ended up saying that I didn't think we were going to be able to enjoy spending time together if everything had to revolve around his sensitivities. He left, upset. We had a long conversation in the evening. He says he's confused: he's falling for me, he'd really like to make this relationship work — but he's sensitive to noise and smells and he really needs someone who'll understand that and be happy to change her life to accommodate him.

I'm all over the place at the moment. Am I being selfish? Don't relationships involve give and take? Do I just get over my sense of being controlled by his sensitivity and just get used to silence and unscented deodorant and being a bit too cool in the car? AIBU?

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Deckings · 06/05/2025 12:28

Well done OP.

Look up "The boiled frog analogy", because this is a perfect example of where you would find that the difference between all his issues/demands in month one, would be a tenth of what they are by month 12.

You would have a long list of things that he couldn't "cope" with.

Screw that, life would be absolutely miserable.
It would be all anout him and having a child with him would be a complete no no.

Everything in his life is about HIM and his comfort.

Who cares what acronym it is, its bloody awful to live with.

Starling7 · 06/05/2025 12:44

GoldBeautifulHeart · 06/05/2025 12:25

We absolutely do but that doesn't mean our needs mean we get to control the people around us. We can only control ourselves.

Perhaps he sees it as requesting rather than demanding? Even if it doesn't come across like that? I'm not saying his behaviour is right, just trying to answer the original post

justasking111 · 06/05/2025 12:47

Thing is @Finulasfriend it's not something he andw another girl friend have to work on. But something he has to work on. My brother destroyed his first marriage being like this.

When I said he needed to talk to someone because of his Asperger's issues he blocked me for a time. But being intelligent did the research, got some help after the penny dropped. Worked on himself and found his second wife.

SilviaSnuffleBum · 06/05/2025 12:57

I have a lot of sensory issues, so I understand how hard it can be to manage them, but there's fuck all chance I'd be going into someone's space and adjusting their radio/air con/whatever. I'd ASK, as that's what generally considerate people do.

I'm Autistic, so I also get differences in social and communication spheres, but sounds like he controls (rather than manages) his anxieties by trying to control the environment around him.

Fuck that. I'd stop seeing him for the deodorant thing alone (no-one comes between Mitchum and me!).

BonfireToffee · 06/05/2025 13:06

Starling7 · 06/05/2025 12:18

A lot of people on the spectrum have sensitivities like this.

Being on the spectrum doesn't make you a rude, controlling arsehole.

LemonLeaves · 06/05/2025 13:07

Codlingmoths · 06/05/2025 12:19

He responded to say surely it was something we could work on, and I said no, I couldn't build my life around his sensitivities,
‘you’, not ‘we’. He meant you could work on it. You made the right decision op.

Completely agree. The "we" jumped right out there. It's pretty clear where he thinks the effort should come from (spoiler alert: not him).

TurkeyLurkey4 · 06/05/2025 13:12

YANBU. He genuinely feels his needs and preference trump yours, everytime. Even in your own home!

Funnywonder · 06/05/2025 13:22

You did the right thing OP. Having sensory issues is one thing, but his lack of ability, or worse his unwillingness, to rein in his responses out of consideration for others, is quite another.

I disagree with those who suggest he is simply being controlling and that it’s not about being ND, because of the fact that he can tolerate noise that he generates himself. Tell me you don’t know anyone autistic without telling me you don’t know anyone autistic! DS1 used to come home from children’s parties and complain about the noise, while simultaneously blowing into a fecking whistle or some party blower thing and nearly putting me out of the car with it😆 Everything he did was noisy - talking, clattering stuff, stamping, singing (in class unfortunately!) - but he hated noise made by others. Probably because he had no control over when it would stop. He is 16 now and much better at dealing with it, but he gets quite agitated if I have music on in the car, even quite low. He doesn’t say anything, but I can see it affects him. Next time we’re out he might ask if he can put his music on and that’s apparently ok! But I totally get it. It’s not about controlling other people, it’s about having full autonomy over himself. I’m very similar. But you have to learn how to behave around other human beings.

rosemarble · 06/05/2025 13:41

Starling7 · 06/05/2025 12:44

Perhaps he sees it as requesting rather than demanding? Even if it doesn't come across like that? I'm not saying his behaviour is right, just trying to answer the original post

There was no requesting going on when he turned OP's radio off or set the car climate to suit his own needs.

Hotflushesandchilblains · 06/05/2025 13:43

His sensitivities are one thing - but you will spend your life around all his needs. And they sound like a lot. I certainly would not want to do it, just sounds like it would be constant hard work.

Starling7 · 06/05/2025 13:44

BonfireToffee · 06/05/2025 13:06

Being on the spectrum doesn't make you a rude, controlling arsehole.

Most of the ppst detailed the man requesting the op to do things - he also explained himself in their chat. He was obviously blunt a few times, but again people on the spectrum can be. I know from personal experience

pikkumyy77 · 06/05/2025 13:55

Starling7 · 06/05/2025 13:44

Most of the ppst detailed the man requesting the op to do things - he also explained himself in their chat. He was obviously blunt a few times, but again people on the spectrum can be. I know from personal experience

There was no reciprocity, though. That is a problem no matter how hard you slice it. Or hiw hard you bend over backwards to try to excuse his demanding/controlling behavior as a reasonable request for a minor accommodation.

I live with someone with misephonia—its miserable for her and she tries to manage it without impacting us too much. Because its a huge imposition to try to enforce silence while eating or drinking on others. She will share space with us as long as possible but often leaves while we are eating.

If his sensitivities means no shared space in terms of body scents or noise its just not tolerable long term.

wrinklyoldarms · 06/05/2025 14:13

Having read your update, you did the right thing.

I think it's sad in one respect because people with ASD need to learn how to manage relationships and social situations where their behaviour is not 'the norm' and can be perceived as rude etc etc.

You may think it's too late now but I'd have been inclined to say that I though he was ND and maybe some counselling or support on managing this would help him.

My guess is that he's gone through life to his 30s having the same experience time after time, where women can't cope with his behaviour.

It's not your role to be his therapist BUT it might be helpful to suggest he tackles it with professional support.

This isn't quite the same, but I know someone who was told a 'home truth' by a woman when she ended it with him. This was about something 'personal' but she clearly felt she was doing him a favour.

Busybeemumm · 06/05/2025 14:13

Well done OP and now line up that next date. Don't waste any time thinking about him and move on. You will find someone compatible.

wrinklyoldarms · 06/05/2025 14:16

You did the right thing OP. Having sensory issues is one thing, but his lack of ability, or worse his unwillingness, to rein in his responses out of consideration for others, is quite another.

The missing link is perhaps no one has helped him change his behaviour and maybe he doesn't appreciate he can control it.

For example, there are some ND people who don't naturally make eye contact when they talk 1:1. They have to be told to do this, practise it, and keep remembering to do it.

topcat2014 · 06/05/2025 14:22

The noise thing is not a good look.

I have eczema and have to be careful with products for my own body - which is a faff, but it has never occurred to me to ask DW to do anything different.

FreddysFingers · 06/05/2025 15:18

Too much hard work and I think bordering on controlling to be honest. Throw this one back.

Bestfadeplans · 06/05/2025 15:27

The relationship revolves around him, his needs, his wants and his sensitivities. Hes very controlling. Run.

Fwiw- I'm very sensitive of smells, perfumes and coffee can give me a migraine. I've never once in my whole life, asked someone not to wear it or not to drink it. My daughters friend has been coming around a lot recently and he wears v strong aftershave, you can smell it all over the house. I've not said anything because i don't have the right to and id never put myself ahead of someone else.

ColinOfficeTrolley · 06/05/2025 15:36

Well in situations like this I would reverse it if a women was acting like this what would MN say? apart from 'she has anxiety so he needs to be understanding''

Why would you reverse it? What a load of absolute cadswallop, but there's always one 🙄

Naepalz · 06/05/2025 15:58

PsychoHotSauce · 06/05/2025 09:26

I also thought ND but exacerbated by single-dom and living alone (assuming he does), pleasing yourself all the time. I can say that because I'm in the exact same position Wink If he's become totally used to changing his environment without a thought to suit him, and without needing to consider anyone else, speaking personally I find I can't think or have a conversation if the tv/podcast/music is on in the background at someone else's house. I have to actually remember my manners because my head is screaming 'turn that fucker off!' Grin

But that's the point isn't it. ND explains the reaction, but it doesn't excuse his behaviour as a result of the ND reaction to stimuli. The lack of self-awareness and expectation that his needs come first is a choice - and if he really can't cope unless the world is tailored to his needs 24/7 then he'll struggle in a relationship.

I wasn't trying to minimise or excuse the BF's reactions/behaviour, more just offer a possible explanation.
If the OP has decided this is all too much for her I can easily see why.
I think you could be right. This guy may have spent too much time on his own and needs to (re)learn how to compromise and basically display some manners or alternatively decide he is happier outside of a relationship. Being neuro diverse is not a get out of free card for shitty behaviour. .

teetly · 06/05/2025 16:08

He needs a like minded person. I suspect he could be hiding other issues which over time will come out. It’s up to you if you think you can live with this situation. We’ve only heard the bad things really, he could have some really good points to. Think long term and you will know if you can put up with this. If not then better to end now before you both get to attached.

Allthegoodhorses · 06/05/2025 16:23

BoundaryGirl3939 · 05/05/2025 23:28

I thuink hes just super sensitive to smells and noise.
I am super sensitive to noise and sometimes wish I lived in Japan where people are naturally quiet and don't shriek or talk loudly. I also don't like having a radio on when I'm having a conversation. Too much going on via the airwaves. I'm not being controlling, I just can't handle it.

I’m the same

BernardButlersBra · 06/05/2025 16:42

Crushed23 · 06/05/2025 00:20

I actually got ANGRY on your behalf at the bit where he turns off the podcast you’re listening to in your own home. How dare he?! I would definitely throw this one back.

Same. Who the hell marches into someone's house and does that?! I wouldn't dream of doing that. It's incredibly rude and entitled, it says A LOT about him. Ironically lm a bit funny about noise and a lesser degree smells. But l know it's not all about me. He doesn't seem to have that awareness. The whole world can't just follow his preferences

Deckings · 06/05/2025 16:45

BernardButlersBra · 06/05/2025 16:42

Same. Who the hell marches into someone's house and does that?! I wouldn't dream of doing that. It's incredibly rude and entitled, it says A LOT about him. Ironically lm a bit funny about noise and a lesser degree smells. But l know it's not all about me. He doesn't seem to have that awareness. The whole world can't just follow his preferences

Exactly. The fxcking rudeness of it.

Of course it has to be given an acronym on MN, rather than that of "fxxking rude twat" that he would be called in real life.

Teanbiscuits33 · 06/05/2025 16:50

It COULD be ND, but personally, I think it’s a load of bollocks. I think he’s just controlling and this is just his way of doing it seemingly in small ways to start with to push boundaries. Before she knows it, it would be much bigger things when she’s been conditioned to think it’s normal to dance to his tune. If it was about a genuine sensitivity, he wouldn’t be asking her to change her foundation and moisturiser. That is absolutely absurd, they smell very, very subtly, if at all.

She hasn’t said whether he comments on smells elsewhere or just where her perfume and personal care products are concerned? That makes a bit of a difference.

I don’t suppose it matters now she has dumped him.

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