To hate women who make a big martyry song and dance about the housework

[Fragmentedbrain]

Just read an article in the daily mail on this theme

One quoted woman says she'd rather live on a commune of women than with a man because there would be more sharing of "the domestic load"

Personally I would rather die than live with Neat Women in some dedicated to cleaning hellscape

If you want things to be tidy, tidy

Otherwise dont and shaddup about it

(I know this is possible because neither my husband nor I gaf about tidying and we have fun instead)

Haven’t used one of these in a long time….

But here we go:

Or maybe their sons because no one wants to breed with the entitled pricks and they are desperate to show off grandchildren!

While I think saying that you hate women who make a big song and dance about cleaning is OTT, I do think some people (men and women) moan and martyr themselves about ordinary tasks. See also: competitive tiredness. For the vast majority of people in the UK in the 21st century, keeping a house clean and tidy really isn't that difficult. Of course there are exceptions, especially if you or your child(ren) have disabilities. But the labour-saving devices we have these days make life so much easier than it was for earlier generations.

Why not hate the men who refuse to do their fair share of the housework?

Round of applause for The Cool Girl.

I feel very... seen right now 😬

Is it bright to spend your downtime cleaning instead of having fun?

My mum was/is tidy. I would prefer she had been fun.

Taking the bin out is pretty easy.
Pour a bit of bleach down now and then.
Do you not have a washing machine and dishwasher?? (Ironing is unnecessary)
We change the bed once a month (together, we both hate it)
There are piles of stuff everywhere and dust reaches a maximum amount I find

I’m both 🤷🏻‍♀️

It’s perfectly possible to do both, of course. If you keep on top of it it takes hardly any time. And it doesn’t hang over you every time you enter the house or a room to see it’s a filthy shit-heap.

You seem to think that to keep a house tidy takes all your free time. It doesn’t.

You sound like someone who attaches some kind of cool factor to a house being messy and dirty, and think those who manage to keep a clean house are saddoes, but that says more about you than them - see my previous post.

What fun things do you do OP?

I don't believe for a second that every woman who is pissed off about cleaning is making herself a martyr. Unfortunately there are still plenty of men who see this as a woman's job even if they both work full time. So no I don't think women should just shut up and accept either doing all tidying themselves or living in filth.

My housekeeping standards are pretty low but I'd be pissed off if my DH never loaded the dishwasher or did the laundry. Those are pretty essential tasks that need to be done, you're not exactly a martyr if you end doing them because your DH won't. What else can you do, walk round naked and eat off the floor?

This actually reminds me of when men accuse women of nagging to shut them up. I don't nag or make a 'song and dance' about cleaning because my husband isn't a giant man baby and does his share. The women who are 'making a song and dance' are being put in that position by the useless arse wipes they've ended up with.

OP I found your post funny in a good way!

I am one of those Neat Women 😂 but I agree with you, I don’t moan about things, I just get on with cleaning/tidying up.

If it was making me moan all the time, I’d rather ‘shaddap’ and hire a cleaner than keep moaning/listening to someone else moan 😂

Do you have kids? They create 90% of our mess and are too young to do anything about (preschool so even tidying needs instruction etc)

it is unavoidable that their daily chaos needs sorting, and it takes time and effort. Someone has to do it. Every. day.

For many women, if they "matched their energy" to the efforts of their partners, their kids would be taken into care.

Adults can live how they like.

It sounds like you don’t have kids so you just don’t understand how much housework they generate

Having said that, some mumsnetters have insane standards around changing towels once a day or whatever and i do think it doesn’t sound like they can be enjoying life much. Seems rare in real life though

Look so someone has to do the bin all the time, someone has to put laundry in washer, dryer/line, sort it, fold it, put it away in various people's rooms. Someone has to load unload dishwasher multiple times a day. Imagine you hate all of those things as much as changing the bed? It's not as simple as neat people can be neat and people who don't care can just chill. It needs to be done. Therefore it is a travesty if someone has to do it all. Imagine instead of toilet/dishwasher you don't seem to hate, you had to change the bed 3 times a day alone by yourself forever. Shit isn't it?

I would hate to live in a commune but have full sympathy for anyone exhausted by constant housework.

Big difference between tidying and cleaning.
It doesn't have to be a competition... you do you.
My cleaner/ carer does mine.
I have loads of fun.

You lost me at "hate". Then The Daily Mail.

Arf at your username, OP.

This doesn't sound fun, it sounds dirty. And I am a big fan of "living" rather than constantly cleaning. But there needs to be a basic level of cleanliness in which to have fun.

Let the house be messy during the day while you're enjoying yourself. Tidy it later. As long as it's clean underneath. For your own health.

Agree, the title could just be narrowed to "I hate women".

You change your sheets once a MONTH? 🤢

Also, you clearly don’t have kids. Or pets. It was so much easier when I didn’t have those either, I didn’t ‘get’ when people used to go on about housework all the time. And then I very quickly entered the real world 😂

Bet your house stinks.

Do you hate men who make a big song and dance about cleaning too, or just women, as your title specifies?