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To have asked BIL and SIL not to come this evening

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tuhave · 04/05/2025 18:03

SIL text me this morning saying they wanted to come over today. I said, sure. Yes, I should have asked for when they were planning to come, but didn’t.

I did tell everyone in the family not to come after 5 pm anymore if possible, especially on a school night, as the kids get really wound up and it’s then hard to get them to sleep. They’re 3 and 5.

anyways, I’ve had the worst day. Just feeling so stressed out by the mountains of laundry to do/ the mess in the house and just general life. I know it’s hard for everyone, but lately it’s all getting on top of me. I feel like my husband also doesn’t really look out for me and is absent quite a bit. I hit a wall today and had a major crying breakdown.

it was not a good day and knowing relatives are going to pop in, makes it worse on days like this because then I’m constantly tidying and cleaning. I hate having people over when it’s a mess and MIL also asks when it’s not completely perfect whether I don’t have my cleaners anymore ? Which fucks me off. My kids go from mess to mess, taking toys out, clothes, shoes, drinks. They trash the place - literally. If you’re not behind them, telling them to clean up, they don’t. I was putting away a lot of laundry into cupboards and ironing while my husband was downstairs with them and they were also coming upstairs just wrecking the place entirely.

the point I’m making is that I usually stay on top of them, but I had a lot of housework to do and so I didn’t. Neither did my husband and the house was wrecked. It was perfect this morning.

so when it got to 5:30 pm I told BIL and SIL to not come tonight as we want to start winding the kids down and we also need a bit of an evening without them.

BIL and SIL don’t have kids and they don’t even begin to try to show any kind of understanding of stuff like this and I find it really really frustrating. We see them a fair bit and they just find stuff funny and never have even a half decent/ kind / sympathetic word to say to us. I don’t know how to explain it, but it’s starting to wind me the fuck up. I get the impression they think they’d handle everything much better than we can tbh. And no, I don’t always complain about how hard things are- but anytime I ever have mentioned something being difficult / less than ideal I’m always met with smirking / laughing / being brushed off.

MIL is the same and says I just need to be more organised- when my own mother mentioned that I have a lot on my plate because of work, small kids and a pretty absent husband ( because of his work ). MIL says all mums do it, it’s nothing she didn’t do and I need to be more organised. I get the impression that’s what they all think. That I’m just a bit pathetic and that they’d all do it so much better.

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tuhave · 04/05/2025 18:46

They just never say anything nice or supportive.

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YearlySubscriptionRenewal · 04/05/2025 18:48

tuhave · 04/05/2025 18:46

They just never say anything nice or supportive.

then wind them up, it's so much better for your mental health than feeling upset about it.

Laugh at women who have so little in their life they are house-proud, have so little to do they can only think about house clean. Just go heavy.
Give them something to judge 😂

Don't play their game, it's not worth your time. You don't have to care about in-laws.

Anxioustealady · 04/05/2025 18:48

Don't let them feel like you need to have a house like a show home. You have 2 young children and you work, it's not going to happen, and it's not a fair expectation.

You only need to keep the house as tidy as you want it. It sounds like even if it was perfect they'd pick at something else (suddenly women with spotless houses don't spend enough time with their children etc) so drop that rope.

If you let go of that target, hopefully their comments will not bother you as much. Your value is not related to how clean your house is.

FrenchandSaunders · 04/05/2025 18:49

Your DH needs to do more when he’s there. It’s not on to just sit there whilst the kids run amok.

It’s hard having small children and I hope I remember that clearly when my kids have their own.

I do remember being pissed off at people over staying into the evening and my kids not sleeping.

Missey85 · 04/05/2025 18:52

ByPinkGuide · 04/05/2025 18:24

People without children are always perfect parents op. Wait till they have kids and you can look smug when you drop off the mini drum Kit at 8pm.

And a lot of parents act like there magical unicorns or something because they popped out a kid your not! You don't automatically know it all either 😊

tuhave · 04/05/2025 18:53

we may not be magical unicorns or special in any way, but we understand a hell of a lot more about what it’s like to be a parent, than someone who’s not a parent.

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ByPinkGuide · 04/05/2025 18:53

Missey85 · 04/05/2025 18:52

And a lot of parents act like there magical unicorns or something because they popped out a kid your not! You don't automatically know it all either 😊

You ok hun?

ByPinkGuide · 04/05/2025 18:55

tuhave · 04/05/2025 18:53

we may not be magical unicorns or special in any way, but we understand a hell of a lot more about what it’s like to be a parent, than someone who’s not a parent.

Who knew it needed to be said?😂

ByPinkGuide · 04/05/2025 18:56

Also, wouldn't it be awesome if they did just pop out!

JLou08 · 04/05/2025 18:58

YANBU. I hate visitors between 5-7. It is making tea, clean up, bath, bed time routine. I've no time to entertain anyone and I am usually exhausted once DC is in bed. What's with asking in the morning and coming so late too? That would also wind me up, I wouldn't want to be spending the whole day in the house waiting for them to turn up.

JaneyDC · 04/05/2025 19:03

Missey85 · 04/05/2025 18:52

And a lot of parents act like there magical unicorns or something because they popped out a kid your not! You don't automatically know it all either 😊

Your reply makes you sound foolish and bitter.

I'd say most people are perfect parents until they actually (if they) have kids and see it's tougher than it looks!

OP, I'd stop doing the lion's share of the laundry for a start. I have a rule in my house: if you want it washed, put it in the basket. Anything left on the floor is left. Also, as a past poster advised, def reduce the amount of toys. I rotate and keep some in storage. Less to tidy away and the kids are more likely to play with them for longer as they forget about them!
Your DH and in laws sound horrible. Take some time for yourself. Duck em.

tuhave · 04/05/2025 19:06

All my in laws have this habit of turning up at 5 or 6.

a few months ago I was alone with the kids all weekend and they all knew it and they wanted to come at 6 pm on a Sunday night and I was like - no. I was so exhausted and lonely all weekend with the kids and I did ask them to spend the afternoon with us / come for lunch. But they had the cheek to ignore my wishes and want to come at 6 pm ! Outrageously insensitive.

I’ve said no quite a few times now and even sent a message saying, please not after 5. I’m happy for them to still be here after 5 btw. But don’t arrive at 5. I’m much more flexible at the weekend, but still. Today just wasn’t a good day and they would have seen me feeling quite down and I always feel worse when I see them when I’m not feeling well. As they have no understanding and just make me feel worse, I don’t like them to see me when I’m not at my best.

i wasn’t always like that but after a while of being authentic with people and them always shooting you down and making you feel pathetic, you do then have your guard up and don’t want them to see you vulnerable.

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Luluissleeping · 04/05/2025 19:17

tuhave · 04/05/2025 18:46

They just never say anything nice or supportive.

Who do they ask when they want to come over? You or DH? Glad you put them off. They sound clueless and self absorbed. You don't need people in your life who criticise you and then don't offer to help. They could get involved in tidying up/ offer a hand. Your husband sounds like he could be doing a lot more. Maybe when he doesn't have a clean shirt one morning he might think about helping you more when he is home with the children HE helped produce. He needs to be told. I hope you give him a good talking to.

Endofyear · 04/05/2025 19:18

tuhave · 04/05/2025 18:26

I know people might not care but I do think they judge.

why else would MIL ask me if I still have my cleaners when it’s less than perfect on the odd occasion ?

I think they do judge.

BIL and SIL I think judge as well. They just don’t feel like they’re on our team or supportive in any way, if that makes sense. I have an older sibling and always used to say supportive things to them when things seemed difficult with their kids and they seemed tired. This was before I had kids but I was able to see that it wasn’t easy and wouldn’t just smirk.

So? Let them judge away, their opinions only matter to you if you let them. If they're not very nice, limit the amount of time you spend with them. Start saying no and stop worrying about it. Let your DH host them, or go to theirs. Take control of the situation and don't let people walk over you!

nopineapplepizza · 04/05/2025 19:27

If you’re having a bad day, why aren’t you heading off to bed now and letting your H take over with childcare and dinner, bath and bed?

Once he’s put them to bed, he can clean up too; you’re a couple, this isn’t all on you you know (though it sounds very much like it is), get him to do his fair share and you won’t feel so burnt out.

mindutopia · 04/05/2025 19:41

It’s rude for anyone to invite themselves to your house and dictate a time when you’ll be hosting them.

Next time though, you need to be more assertive. We can’t see you today, but how about we meet up for a walk tomorrow at 11am. Or, great, we’d love to see you at 3pm, could you stop and get a little cake or some brownies on your way and we’ll have those with our coffee.

MeetMyCat · 04/05/2025 19:50

JLou08 · 04/05/2025 18:58

YANBU. I hate visitors between 5-7. It is making tea, clean up, bath, bed time routine. I've no time to entertain anyone and I am usually exhausted once DC is in bed. What's with asking in the morning and coming so late too? That would also wind me up, I wouldn't want to be spending the whole day in the house waiting for them to turn up.

This. I don’t think many people want to have drop-in visitors at that time, whether they have kids or not. My ex MIL used to do this, and it would always cost us the whole evening as a result. It’s very inconsiderate

PrincessofWells · 04/05/2025 19:50

You have a husband problem.

Tell him to shape up and pull his share of the load or piss off. It's a lot easier on your own.

FusionChefGeoff · 04/05/2025 19:58

Whats his job that means he has such a long day? Is it a long commute, self employed or just a ‘presenteeism’ job?

This is the root problem so I’d be looking at longer terms plans that will shorten his working day so he can do more parenting

LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 04/05/2025 20:00

Yanbu and sound at the end of your rope.
I'd have set out my stall already with this but I think the best defense is a food offence.

bil & sil
Very honestly I'd have let them come and picked up my bag and coat as I opened the door and left your husband and the pair of them to it go ANYWHERE, ideally a.pub or bar, ignore my phone and return 9.30/10pm once yltge carnage has ended.

I'd let MIL / BIL / whoever be dickheads and come at 5/ 6 /7 in the evening and I would leave EVERY time.
Go the gym, a bar a restaurant, a drive, for a long walk... whatever.
2 or 3 + adults can put a 5 and 3 yr old to bed... eventually without you.

Re your MIL
Fuck her and her judgement.

If it bogheds you I'd do a one and done to stop it though
"You have repeatedly asked that and I dont know why so I just want to close it off properly now so you can stop asking.
Yes i have a cleaner.
You know I have a cleaner.
You also must know I have a husband who won't clear up after himself let alone our 2 children. I'm doing over 90% already... so If your aim is to shame someone into doing more housework and tidying you should continually ask your son about the cleaner and why he wont pull his weight not me. Thanks"

Crunchymum · 04/05/2025 20:02

So what did your BIL and SIL say when you asked them not to come over this evening?

tuhave · 04/05/2025 20:07

Crunchymum · 04/05/2025 20:02

So what did your BIL and SIL say when you asked them not to come over this evening?

Just, no worries. I went on to explain exactly why and then explained I’m free and alone tomorrow.

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Carpetty · 04/05/2025 20:16

OP, believe me if your husband was sorting his own laundry he would approach it differently.

Stop doing it and he will realise what is involved.
I have seen it with my children.
Far less likely to fill their laundry badket, now its clear it will be them emptying it!

TheKeeperOfTissues · 04/05/2025 20:25

Can your husband take the kids visiting in laws (not today obviously) to give you a few hours to yourself?

He sounds unhelpful.
How did he react to you getting upset?

tuhave · 04/05/2025 20:30

TheKeeperOfTissues · 04/05/2025 20:25

Can your husband take the kids visiting in laws (not today obviously) to give you a few hours to yourself?

He sounds unhelpful.
How did he react to you getting upset?

He didn’t say much, just started cleaning up a bit and told me to just stop caring less about it, as there’s just no point to get so upset about it all.

he went outside with the kids for a bit as well, while I finished off and rested on my own for a bit afterwards.

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