Why can’t Harry just pay for his own private security?

[jennylamb1]

Don’t get it. He says that he can’t ever visit the UK again because his security won’t be provided. Loads of celebrities and high profile business people pay for their own security, why should tax payers pay for his security when he isn’t a working royal anymore?

He does, just not on the terms he wants. He either doesn’t understand or chooses not to or he’s telling porkies.

Yes I completely agree. It seems fairly obvious the king has influenced this

That doesn't seem obvious to me at all.

What's your evidence?

Obviously no evidence

A, because he’s a freeloader and wants to rip off the British taxpayer even though he doesn’t even live here.

B, if he did, that’s one less ‘cause’ he’d be able to show martyrdom on and miss out ln regularly selling interviews to the media

Obviously.

No Charles can not !
the queen wrote and asked politely ( the limit of the monarch powers in this case )
and they refused.
the monarchy in the U.K. do not have the power to interfere or command the government or parliament to do anything.

The only people in the UK legally permitted to carry firearms are police close protection officers. Naturally the police only employ/train/maintain only as many as are required. They are paid in the same way as all other police officers. There isn’t a ‘rent a firearm CP officer’ department with spare ones just waiting around for someone who lives by choice in a far more dangerous country, to come and visit. Weirdly, police officers are allowed annual leave and days off. However much Harry thinks he can ‘pay’ for some armed cops when he flits over (not sure how as the police don’t generally sell things), they will have to come from somewhere.

People have explained this to him, repeatedly. The UK is in an economic mess, public services decimated, as it is god knows what the court cases have cost us!

Why does he think he will only be a target when he comes to the UK? Terrorists can travel I believe? Or is he asking for permanent CP officers with him and his family full time? I think it is just him wanting his ‘status’ (that he supposedly refused) to be recognised and his resentment at being the spare. Quit while you’re onto a good thing you over privileged little boy, enjoy the vast wealth you already have that most of us will never experience, and stop asking the British public to support you doing fuck all for the UK.

One of my team got told she has bowel cancer yesterday. She served 30 years in the police and came back as police staff 18 months ago. Without a load of work from me and my department, policy says she goes onto half pay then nil pay very soon: reading about this clueless rich kid really gives me a bad taste in my mouth.

One side is acting as if he won’t have security at all, the other is acting like a 28 day notice is completely reasonable. Coronations, funerals, and court dates don’t come with 28 day notices. Sure, Harry can plan a family visit ahead of time, and he shouldn’t pretend otherwise. Nor should we pretend that Harry’s kids missing their grandfather’s coronation and great-grandmother’s funeral is nothing, because they couldn’t give a 28 day notice.

Can you imagine if Harry did have access to this? It would be all over People Magazine within the hour.

If charles cant influence anything, why did harry say in the interview that charles is not talking to him precisely because of this security thing.

So charles is not neutral on the issue. He is obviously against what harry wants

People can't buy police or army protection in the UK, and rightly so.

And I agree, but could he not just reimburse the Crown for the cost?

i still can’t find what his actual security will be. Every article on google states

“Harry’s security situation will now remain as is, where he is provided state-funded police protection on a case-by-case basis when he visits the U.K”

i can’t see anything about full security with 28 days notice for any visit. It seems he hasn’t been given any certainty about the level of security he will get. Just decided case by case

I think the implication is that Royal protection officers would have been vigilant about who she associated with and checked up on the driver' competence.

Harry is a petulant child. Grow up, stop meaning about your parents, it is embarrassing.

Harry’s security seems totally adequate, provided with advance notice.

All of his shenanigans appear to be directly related to not getting what he & his wife wanted, which was the full trappings of royalty without the responsibilities. As a result of this, he has unleashed an apparently never ending diatribe against his family and an unpleasant airing of familial dirty laundry.

When this pampered man child reappears all I can think is, have you no shame?

Because as he often does he lied !
charles cannot get involved! It’s against the rules and there are laws around this , and as Charles has never voiced his opinion, neither you nor I have any idea if he’s for or against Harry having his way.

He doesn't have to give 28 days notice for exceptional circumstances. When his father became ill, he visited him on short notice.
He, Meghan and the children were in the UK for the Platinum Jubilee, and the late Queen's funeral.
Harry came on his own for the funeral of Philip, and the Coronation. So it's obviously no problem.

I’m not suggesting he’s done it formally but you’re naive if you think the royal household can’t influence

No, the council contributes to the extra policing the matches create to a small extent. The police presence is not ‘security’ it is to maintain the peace. The only police involved in security are Close Protection officers.

I can’t believe there are people out there who would think it’s acceptable for any Tom Dick or Harry (no pun intended tended) to be granted access to the UK’s security intelligence.

@Seventell Charles couldn't speak to Harry about anything that may touch upon security because Charles had no way of knowing that Harry wouldn't tell the world and that could lead to consitutional crisis as the government is his government. He couldn't talk because of his constitutional role not because he was 'interfering' or 'influencing'

Possibly, however, they cannot influence top security service staff who have to act on intelligence received and manage potential threats. Now Charles knows a lot about bees, but I think MI6 stuff is beyond his capability!

Bottom line: no-one, not the Home Office, not Charles, not anyone would wish to see harm come to Harry and his family. It makes no sense.

That's such a terrifying thought!

He will be forever dropping down, William's children's children will precede him and so on. Look at Anne, she was the spare when her mother became Queen but now because of the rules of primogeniture is barely in the top 20, her brothers' children and grandchildren have all demoted her.

Because Harry likes to frame things to garner pity for himself, or outright lie, for the same reasons.

I would imagine IF KC isn’t speaking to him, it’s because he called his family racists, cannot stop blabbing to the press and is a horrible loose cannon at the same time as the RF dealing with cancer.