Trump wants to rename VE day "Victory in WW2 day" and Nov 11th as Victory in WW1 day"

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Apparently the USA did "more than any other country" and nobody was close in terms of strength, bravery or military brilliance - so he wants to celebrate victories.

https://bsky.app/profile/number10cat.bsky.social/post/3lo7buvd7d22d

Stats are here

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/students-teachers/student-resources/research-starters/research-starters-worldwide-deaths-world-war

Soviet Union
Military deaths: 8,800,000-10,700,000
Combined military and civillian deaths: 24,000,000

USA:

Military deaths::416,800
Combined military and civillian deaths:418,500

UK

Military deaths: 383,600
Combined military and civillian deaths:450,700

China

China
Military deaths: 3-4,000,000
Combined military and civillian deaths:20,000,000

If he wanted to upset Russia, this is how to do it.

It's also going to upset other countries who suffered massively in WW2 and also fought alongside the USA to defeat the Nazis and also the Japanese

Without the Brits (I'm Irish) repelling the Nazis when the Brits were on their own in doing so in 1940 the war would have been over there and then.

And yes, without the Soviets we ultimately would have been eviscerated akin to what the white imperialists did to the Native people in the white settler entity america.

That white settler entity dehumanized and murdered millions of Native people and were the template for the Nazis, with Hitler approvingly stating in 1928 the white settler entity had "gunned down the millions of Redskins to a few hundred thousand, and now keep the modest remnant under observation in a cage".

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/30/how-american-racism-influenced-hitler

Yeah real "brave" from the most racist, bigoted entity in human history. It was precisely because of the ilk of the pioneer of scientific racism thomas jefferson ("blacks are inferior to the whites in the endowments of body and mind" in his letters, and the Natives are subhuman "savages" in the white settler declaration) that Hitler came into existence.

Like any right minded individual I despise this monstrous racist entity america with every fibre of my being, and ultimately it won't survive in it's current racist guise (all its racist documents, it's pro slavery national anthem (which the 45 million descendants of African slaves there don't sing), its places named after slave owning tyrants (including the capital washington), and it will crumble and start anew, and Trump and his white nationalist followers (such as the Jan 6th rioters) know it is on its last legs as history bends towards justice, it always has.

The statue of liberty is an anti-slavery monument from the French after the white settler entity had finally ended the enslavement of human beings (yes america, blacks are human beings not "property" as they designated them in their articles of confederation), and a broken chain was originally held in her left hand, but americans couldn't accept such a prominent reminder of how monstrous an entity that white settler entity is so they had it moved to her feet where you cannot see it.

Whitewashing its disgusting history is part of their culture. That's why they want to remove all aspects of it in their history classes (florida already has). They were the Nazis before the Nazis. Dehumanizing a people, stealing their land, and building statues to commemorate such an act (statues marking the ethnic cleansing stood outside government buildings there for over a century). They also sold postcards of lynchings. Even the Nazis didn't stoop this low.

Anyone that has any semblance of knowledge of history detests america. It is an entity that has no shame, no morals, and their leader encapsulates that.

Apart from in the Channel Islands where they celebrate Liberation Day on the 9th May, a day after most of us

Here is one of the statues of america celebrating their ethnic cleansing of the Natives and the supremacy of the whites (christopher columbus next to a wide eyed, "savage" Native woman) which Hitler wrote so admiringly about:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TheDiscoveryofAmerica(sculpture)

President James Buchanan (who commissioned the statue) in 1836 described it as representing "the great discoverer when he first bounded with ecstasy upon the shore, ail his toils past, presenting a hemisphere to the astonished world, with the name america inscribed upon it. Whilst he is thus standing upon the shore, a female savage, with awe and wonder depicted in her countenance, is gazing upon him."

The celebration of white supremacy which is in the DNA of the white settler entity america stood outside the Capitol building until the 1950s.

And another commemoration of america's white supremacy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rescue_(sculpture)

Also commissioned by the white settler government, the sculptor said it was "to convey the idea of the triumph of the whites over the savage tribes".

And this ethnic cleansing of an inferior race, a "savage" race, by the superior white race, is why america was the template for Hitler.

We all know the Americans believe they won all the wars they have been in, whereas the rest of the world knows they only joined when there was something in it for them.

Nope im a wally

Russsian 18 year olds…i really should stop writing like mumsnetters are psychic

And all their racist documents now come with a warning.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/05/facebook-declaration-of-independence-hate-speech

Sentence in the Guardian in reference to Natives being "savages":

"The declaration's passage has often been cited as an encapsulation of the dehumanizing attitude toward Indigenous Americans that the US was founded on."

Hitler would echo such sentiments to another race 150 years later.

Without the Brits (I'm Irish) repelling the Nazis when the Brits were on their own in doing so in 1940 the war would have been over there and then

yep, ds2 and i have been discussing this thread and he made your point.

Trump thinks he rules the world we the British will not let him dictate to us

New names rarely stick. Nobody outside Trump's circle will call the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America.

In the UK people I know still refer to the Brecon Beacons rather than by the Welsh name.

People will call it VE day, nobody will take much notice of anyone calling it something different.

Trump doesn't seem to be a history expert anyway, him stating that Italy and the USA have been allies since Ancient Rome was telling.

And those PEOPLE (not "savages" america, PEOPLE) who the white settler entity america ethnically cleansed and murdered, earning the praise of Hitler who would do similar to another race, this is their response:

https://www.mic.com/articles/121671/native-americans-have-nothing-to-celebrate-on-july-4#.Qst75mbCL

"Any holiday that would refer to my people in such a repugnant, racist manner is certainly not worth celebrating. [July Fourth] is a day we celebrate our resiliency, our culture, our languages, our children and we mourn the millions — literally millions — of indigenous people who have died as a consequence of American imperialism."

I hate to imagine what life was like in the Soviet Army in WW2.

Life was cheap

RAF Bomber Command had death rate of approximately 45%, with 57,205 aircrews killed out of a total of 125,000., with the average age of 23!
They had the highest death rate of any part of the British Armed forces!

Who cares what the President of the FSA wants to call things?

(Are they officially called "the Fucking State of America" now? Hard to keep up)

Although we'll, apparently, vote in our droves for a party led by his one of his chief rimmers.

Trump insulting those who died and those that survived and the horrific things they saw and endured

I am surprised Trump hasn’t renamed the days as ‘America Won the War 1’ and ‘ America Won the War 2’.

Yes didn’t Trump say they are ‘losers’.

Maybe he's trying to suck up to Putin: the Russians celebrate on May 9th and call it den' pobedy - Victory Day.

Given he couldn't be bothered to visit one of the American WWI military cemeteries in France because it was raining, the depths of his ignorance have ceased to amaze me.

USA like to think they won war but it was the strength commitment and the lives of UK son's that beat Hitler it is insulting that trump thinks he can rename it

I do think it shows the mentality of us citizens ie they have no clue on what they vote for trump has no respect for anyone especially women or rest of world he acting like ruler of world

He doesn't realise that the Great Depression in America was a determining factor in starting WWll. Then as usual the U.S turned up late as usual for a war.

The rich in world think we are their prawns. They don't care about those who died in battle or impact to those who survived and their families

Fuck off you cataclysmic orange cunt!