Why can't we discuss how fat we've all become?

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Obesity is becoming the norm. Why aren't we allowed express concern or any views that are less than celebratory about this?

I mean seriously why?

If whole parts of your country were in the grip of a meth addiction we would be allowed have a discussion about it.

National campaigns to stop people smoking are applauded.

Look around you. Look in the mirror. We are all getting bigger and bigger. It reminds me of when people would visit the US in the 80s / 90s and come back with tales of huge people and massive portion sizes.

Does nobody care? It's like the Emperors New Clothes. I don't get why it's a sacrosanct topic.

Yabu - it's nobody's business
Yanbu - it's fine to address this as a societal problem

Well said.

The normalization of fat is a massive public health problem.

There you go! All fixed. Turns out all you needed was a nasty peice of work on the internet to insult you and now you’re all skinny! Who know, eh?! The cure of lack of self control!

Thanks to the couple of posters who have already pointed out the fucking obvious to Blueskies25 as well as their very poor reading comprehension skills.

Mmm, I found myself hoping the taxpayer didn't fund that poster's education.

Thank you I won't call myself that. I do like who I am and what I look like. I am only losing weight for my health and not to be slim for others. I don't really want to be slim only a reasonable weight for me.

You can express your views. People do it all the time. Fatphobia is the norm.

There should be massive restrictions on the sale and marketing of unhealthy foods.

Actually what should happen is all retail sale of food should be banned. The only food should be a government supplied rudimentary paste that comes through a tap in your home that is specially designed to supply all nutritional needs but be fairly unappetising. IMO this simple step would end the obesity epidemic in one fell swoop.

I’m fat. 5ft 2, 11st 12, size 14. I am trying to address it. Like @bumblingbovine49 I did Weightwatchers 12 years ago and lost 2stone and went down to a size 8, I was 1.5st lighter when I started WW than I am now. I’m too scared to donWW again in case the rebound weight gain is even worse this time. I have an underactive thyroid which doesn’t help.

I don't know what you read or how you decided to interpret it, but it wasn't in my post that suggested that at all

I am currently overweight after being slim for most of my life. People are always finding excuses for me - i have been through tough times, multiple pregnancies, perimenopause ect.
But no, i know I am overweight and overeating is the problem.

I see many threads on mn saying a size 14 or 16 is healthy. It is very rarely so unless people are very tall or have a wide bone structure. It's generally overweight. We need to say that, i think it's the generalisation of those sizes being the norm which is more problematic than body positivity for the much larger sizes.

Individual cases all have reasons and are not to judge. But we shouldn't be aiming for 14 as a national average size imo.

Of course it isn’t! Excess skin can arise from any weight loss, but there’s no way it’s dangerous for your health in the same way being obese is.

If there is a lot of excess skin, then it can affect mobility, cause problems of sweating and infections in the folds, not to mention the mental aspect of having ugly, redundant skin marring the achievement of losing tons of weight. Not many can afford to have several surgeries to remove it.

Absolute nonsense.

I'm an excellent cook. Was brought up by a mother who was very interested in food. Always ate great things, I learned to cook because I wanted to eat.

BUT!

I just don't eat too much. I eat enough. And then stop.

The reasons people overeat are complicated I guess. But it's nothing to do with eating great food.

That sounds like an excuse.

I don’t think either size 16 or 26 is shameful per se but both are overweight.

I am a size 8/10 and appear slim with clothes on but I have belly fat, upper arm and upper leg fat, which I need to lose for my health.

It is 100% my fault and 100% in my control - I know what I need to do, I am just not good at doing it. If am offered a biscuit at work I pretty much always accept it and a second one. Whereas there are several people that will always decline it - some say if they have one then they will be tempted to have more so they just say no.

I really wish it was - unfortunately fresh food isn't the same now as it once was. Fish is generally farmed now and waters are way more polluted. Fruit has more sugar due to selective breeding patterns. Everything has more microplastics and chemicals. Not much we can do but it sucks.

Weightloss injections should be available via gp with less restrictions eg not have to wait to being really ill before you qualify but with the stipulation that you still need to pay for them. That way proper monitoring can take place, dietary advice etc. plus with people self funding, they will take it seriously. Food noise is real for some people. Taking that away is a game changer

Whereas your lack of self control appears focused around being a bit of a dick to people online for no obvious reason. Have you tried just controlling your impulse to make shitty comments?
It's a shame for you that you couldn't understand the huge amount of self control that decades of weight loss will have taken. Well done you for being superior to the fatties though.

Which is why I don't buy fish from the supermarket and shop seasonally and locally.

Everyone?
Lots of us aren't obese.

Unfortunately many people really struggle to afford to shop like this.

I see you couldn't resist a judgemental dig at the end...it's not an excuse. I said I was fat ..I'm not stupid. I'm simply saying it's perfectly possible to get fat by eating real, home cooked non upf food

I eat salmon about twice a year, fished from the river Tweed, it's punishingly expensive and a seasonal treat.

See also sea trout, native oysters, local lamb, rose veal, meat and fish shouldn't be cheap.

It wasn't a judgemental dig.

I don't know why you're fat. I know why I'm not.

That is all.

It hit me in Berlin a month ago how few people are even overweight, let alone obese, there!

There you go

You just couldn't help yourself

Congratulations on such an achievement

Oh and fyi I wasn't asking you to give me diet advice or give me reasons as to why I'm overweight...I'm perfectly aware of the reason