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To not help my Mum change Grandads bedding?

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NimbleBee · 30/04/2025 09:30

My DM is taking care of my grandad in his final months.
I helped twice this week change his bedding, because he is double incontinent now with his age and illness.
My DM asked for help yesterday, I have said I can not help no more.
Aibu? My Grandad has other family who could help but do not.
My step Dad was not happy yesterday when I declined to help my DM.
I said to my retired step Dad, that he should go and change the bedding as it is his wife who is 70yr old that needs help with her Dad's bed change and he has lots of free time.
Yesterday step Dad was sunbathing and sleeping in the garden instead of helping.

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BIossomtoes · 30/04/2025 14:55

Wonderingwhyyy · 30/04/2025 14:50

Helping the DM keeps both women in the caring role while the men get on with their lives.

The bigger picture needs to be examined by both MEN and women in the family regarding care.

What a great excuse. Her mum’s going to carry on whether or not she gets help. All refusing to help achieves is making it harder for her.

thepariscrimefiles · 30/04/2025 14:57

IButtleSir · 30/04/2025 14:16

You and your step-dad are both acting like dickheads, but since you're the one asking if you are being unreasonable, just think about how many shitty nappies of yours your mother had to change. Then go and help her change the bedding.

Her mum chose to have a baby, which comes with responsibility for changing shitty nappies. I'm sure that if OP has children, she has changed hundreds of shitty nappies herself. Just because OP's nappies were changed by her mum, it doesn't mean that OP needs to change shitty nappies for elderly relatives. Doing personal care for elderly relatives is a choice. OP's mum made that choice. OP hasn't.

Also, there is absolutely no comparison with changing a baby's shitty nappy and that of an old man. I have changed hundreds of babies' nappies with my own children, my grandchildren and when I worked as a childminder. I couldn't do it for an elderly person.

Wonderingwhyyy · 30/04/2025 15:01

Seventree · 30/04/2025 14:53

I think both you and your stepdad are being pretty horrible refusing to help your mum at this time (unless a massive drip feed is coming?).

The OP has been helping while the stepdad has been sunbathing. Try reading the OP.

Wonderingwhyyy · 30/04/2025 15:02

BIossomtoes · 30/04/2025 14:55

What a great excuse. Her mum’s going to carry on whether or not she gets help. All refusing to help achieves is making it harder for her.

Sometimes you cannot help someone until they help themselves. Services are there to help.

FluffyRabbitGal · 30/04/2025 15:05

I couldn’t watch my Mum & Grandad struggle like that and not help. It must be both physically and mentally difficult for your Mum to nurse her father in the last stage of his life. It must also be embarrassing for your grandad not only to be doubly incontinent, but also being incapable to clean himself up. Nobody is the winner in this situation- help them out, I’m sure they’ve offered you kindness when you’ve needed help.

BIossomtoes · 30/04/2025 15:06

Wonderingwhyyy · 30/04/2025 15:01

The OP has been helping while the stepdad has been sunbathing. Try reading the OP.

She’s done it twice.

ruethewhirl · 30/04/2025 15:06

thepariscrimefiles · 30/04/2025 14:57

Her mum chose to have a baby, which comes with responsibility for changing shitty nappies. I'm sure that if OP has children, she has changed hundreds of shitty nappies herself. Just because OP's nappies were changed by her mum, it doesn't mean that OP needs to change shitty nappies for elderly relatives. Doing personal care for elderly relatives is a choice. OP's mum made that choice. OP hasn't.

Also, there is absolutely no comparison with changing a baby's shitty nappy and that of an old man. I have changed hundreds of babies' nappies with my own children, my grandchildren and when I worked as a childminder. I couldn't do it for an elderly person.

This. All these people carrying on like if you’ve changed a baby’s nappy you should have no problem dealing with what a grown adult produces. Yeah, right. 😂

placemats · 30/04/2025 15:07

GeorgianaM · 30/04/2025 13:50

Your mother asked YOU.

It's appalling that you're casting your eyes around for someone else to help. Just do it, it takes minutes and from the sounds of it, he won't be on this earth for much longer.

If it took minutes and was easy then why does a 70 year old not frail or elderly woman need help?

Word to the wise. Looking after frail, elderly end of life requires help from carers.

Wonderingwhyyy · 30/04/2025 15:07

FluffyRabbitGal · 30/04/2025 15:05

I couldn’t watch my Mum & Grandad struggle like that and not help. It must be both physically and mentally difficult for your Mum to nurse her father in the last stage of his life. It must also be embarrassing for your grandad not only to be doubly incontinent, but also being incapable to clean himself up. Nobody is the winner in this situation- help them out, I’m sure they’ve offered you kindness when you’ve needed help.

That is fine if you couldn't help. Not everyone is you.

OP has already been helping, We don't know what is going in her life.

The ideal scenario is to get carers in rather than burdening the women while the men sit back.

Wonderingwhyyy · 30/04/2025 15:08

BIossomtoes · 30/04/2025 15:06

She’s done it twice.

That is this week. Nobody knows how many other occasions she has helped,

BIossomtoes · 30/04/2025 15:09

Wonderingwhyyy · 30/04/2025 15:02

Sometimes you cannot help someone until they help themselves. Services are there to help.

Services aren’t there to help. They’re virtually non existent. And if you’re lucky enough to get them they’re a maximum of four times a day. Strangely they’re not arranged to be supplied in coordination with clients’ bowel movements.

Wonderingwhyyy · 30/04/2025 15:12

BIossomtoes · 30/04/2025 15:09

Services aren’t there to help. They’re virtually non existent. And if you’re lucky enough to get them they’re a maximum of four times a day. Strangely they’re not arranged to be supplied in coordination with clients’ bowel movements.

They are not non existent at all 😂I have several neighbours and family members who have currently having care. I would not call that non existent.

Abbycarry2211 · 30/04/2025 15:13

FluffyRabbitGal · 30/04/2025 15:05

I couldn’t watch my Mum & Grandad struggle like that and not help. It must be both physically and mentally difficult for your Mum to nurse her father in the last stage of his life. It must also be embarrassing for your grandad not only to be doubly incontinent, but also being incapable to clean himself up. Nobody is the winner in this situation- help them out, I’m sure they’ve offered you kindness when you’ve needed help.

Just because someone is your grandad doesnt mean they are worthy of care. My friend was abused very badly by her grandad.

When he was sick and dying, she never went near him

My own grandad wasnt extremely abusive. But he was very cold and uncaring and distant to me. He died suddenly. But if he was sick for a long time i would not have looked after him. I would have visited him. But i would have got carers to look after him

BIossomtoes · 30/04/2025 15:13

Wonderingwhyyy · 30/04/2025 15:12

They are not non existent at all 😂I have several neighbours and family members who have currently having care. I would not call that non existent.

I expect they’re paying for it. No idea why you think it’s funny.

placemats · 30/04/2025 15:14

BIossomtoes · 30/04/2025 14:55

What a great excuse. Her mum’s going to carry on whether or not she gets help. All refusing to help achieves is making it harder for her.

I can't imagine being married to someone who ignores me and sun bathed in the garden whilst I struggle with my parent. Would never ask grandchildren to help either. No way would I want grandchildren to look after me in a personal care capacity.

Be happy to chat with them and would strive to look my best.

Stanislas · 30/04/2025 15:15

I have had trouble dealing with baby's nappies for my own dgc. I gag over faecal leaks from my aging DH . I would not expect my daughter to help. Decent incontinence pants should help. The step father could help with putting a laundry load on but perhaps he has no history with the father in law?

Icannaeeven · 30/04/2025 15:17

nomas · 30/04/2025 11:06

This thread is so predictable. A retired man in good health is berating a young woman for not changing another man’s bedding and the women of MN are rallying behind him.

OP, the median age of the average woman on AIBU is 60, they expect all younger women to serve them and their men.

Well done for saying no, your mum needs to get partner to step up.

I agree. This thread is a masterclass in why the stepdad won't help - because he doesn't bloody have to. Society, and other women, will walk past the sunbathing stepdad to make sure OP knows she's a terrible selfish person for not helping.

Sure, they might tut at the stepdad too, but what can you do? Men, eh? Then they'll just get on with the process of doing the work for him, leaving him to nap.

Raise the bar, Ladies.

Wonderingwhyyy · 30/04/2025 15:18

Icannaeeven · 30/04/2025 15:17

I agree. This thread is a masterclass in why the stepdad won't help - because he doesn't bloody have to. Society, and other women, will walk past the sunbathing stepdad to make sure OP knows she's a terrible selfish person for not helping.

Sure, they might tut at the stepdad too, but what can you do? Men, eh? Then they'll just get on with the process of doing the work for him, leaving him to nap.

Raise the bar, Ladies.

Some of the posters are more misogynist than men.

FlakyCritic · 30/04/2025 15:19

rubicustellitall · 30/04/2025 13:17

No ..its about love and respect and loyalty to an elderly lady who is doing her best to help her father have some dignity.

OP has done her bit, she probably has children, a husband, a career. While the SD sits on his arse. And the other relatives do nothing. Why don't you shame his other family members who are not lifting a finger to help him have dignity? OP has done her bit!

whistlesandbells · 30/04/2025 15:20

You have decided you have done enough. Sit with that thought. Your choice.

FlakyCritic · 30/04/2025 15:20

PsychoHotSauce · 30/04/2025 13:19

What exactly do you hope to achieve by being petty and whining it's not fair about your step dad? Because I'm telling you now, if you think you're going to successfully guilt trip your step dad into helping, you're very wrong. All you've done is make your mum feel shit and alone during an already awful time.

No, the mum's husband and her father's other living relatives who haven't lifted a finger and assumed the little women would take care of it are the ones who are making her mum feel shit and alone.

BIossomtoes · 30/04/2025 15:22

FlakyCritic · 30/04/2025 15:20

No, the mum's husband and her father's other living relatives who haven't lifted a finger and assumed the little women would take care of it are the ones who are making her mum feel shit and alone.

They all have and now OP’s joined in.

OneQuirkyPanda · 30/04/2025 15:23

Unfortunately, men get away with not pulling their weight because all the anger is directed at other women instead of them, it’s just accepted they are useless while other female relatives are guilted into stepping in. This just enables men to carry on doing nothing and it go unchallenged because there’s always a woman on hand to do their part.

I remember being heavily berated for not offering to cook, clean, do the shopping etc for my brother, dad and mum after she had surgery. This was despite me not living with them and my brother and dad being able bodied and working less hours than me. They’d even drafted my brother’s girlfriend who didn’t live there into doing chores, which was used against me.

I was baffled at the time that I apparently should have known between the two of them they apparently couldn’t manage to cover the basic life admin and tasks my mum usually did and would need my assistance. When I pointed this out I was told I was selfish and I wouldnt be helping them I would be helping my mum.

Of course when I had surgery twice and my wife had surgery there were no offers of help from anyone because as women it’s assumed we can cope on our own (we can but it shows the hypocrisy here).

ruethewhirl · 30/04/2025 15:23

whistlesandbells · 30/04/2025 15:20

You have decided you have done enough. Sit with that thought. Your choice.

🙄

Wonderingwhyyy · 30/04/2025 15:25

whistlesandbells · 30/04/2025 15:20

You have decided you have done enough. Sit with that thought. Your choice.

This is the kind of crap designed to make women feel guilty.

Meanwhile the step dad is sunning himself while the women are struggling.