To be really worried about Reform?

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Just that really. They’re predicted to gain the most from the upcoming elections, if this carries on could we see a reform government at the next general elections? Or is it press scaremongering as usual?

You would be happy to leave the ECHR? And say goodbye to the GFA in the process?

The studies also noted that the high street was full of pound-shop like stores, not trendy bars and restaurants.

Good luck with that.

Remain ?? That's a freudian slip.

You need a mix. The Tories were took over by 'progresssive' liberals under David Cameron and Labour under Tony Blair. Too much liberalism (or too much anything) ruins the equilibrium.

I think Reform will do well. People are very very worried about uncontrolled immigration and all that leads to. The never ending building, groups of men hanging round streets (yes I know it’s not an issue in leafy suburbia) real or perceived threat to British culture.

For a long time people have seen British Culture pushed to the back, it appears that Christianity can be criticised all you like but criticise Islam its Islamaphobia.

People have seen their neighbourhoods changed by mass immigration and local customs and traditions erased as incomers don’t partake.

Yet if you voice any of these concerns you’re shut down by the left calling you racist.

No wonder people with these concerns are finding a voice with Reform.

People don’t like having their voices taken away esp with things that they are greatly affected by. The left need to learn from the whole trans situation

Australian attitudes can be rather 1980s

I didn’t even notice that. I must stop trying to do two things at once. 🤣

I have just said I’m happy with my rights when in Australia who are not part of the ECHR. More so as they have full ability to put in policies. The citizens there clearly feel the same, even Labor won’t run on overturning current policies.

As for other issues that might arise tackle them with laws.

Australians are happy to not have this half half position and are free from some of the EU / UK struggles around migration rn

Exactly, the ‘progressives’ are the biggest racists of all.

They are the people who call black and brown people names if those people have the audacity to not play victim to satisfy the ‘white guilt’ fashionable trend.

Remember the racism they directed towards Kwasi Kwarteng, Rishi Sunak, Kemi Badenoch. Call them out for being useless, sure. But calling them names to imply that that a some kind of race traitors shows these people’s true mentality. The mask slips.

I’m sure that post will worry them.

Yeah, so 1980s to actually do what the public wants you to do. Who needs that, eh?

Given DutchEmerald keeps having their offensive posts deleted I think unlikely they can do this.

But the UK is in the ECHR, so you being happy with your rights in Australia has no bearing on that.

Would you vote for the UK to leave the ECHR in order to implement an Aus style asylum system?

Is the ECHR for anyone anymore apart from the right of criminals?

To do what Reform supporter want.

I rather like my human rights, not a fan of torture for instance.

Well it does obviously have a bearing on my views as I know not being in that organisation can be freeing rather than the opposite.

And Aus rights and freedom index is high, in some cases more so than here.

Shows you where the racism really is.

The left really like black and brown people to know their place - as victims. Anything more than that is really stepping above their station.

Which of the rights from the ECHR don't you want?

Australia had to pay £70 million as compensation for human rights abuses on Manus. Not sure we’d want to replicate that.

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/Legal_and_Constitutional_Affairs/NauruandManusRPCs/Report

I don't think people who want us to push back boats and detain people indefinitely, care about human rights.

@User135644 and @EasternStandard

Best posts by far.

Australia not in the ECHR explains why they can deport/tow people back, etc.

ECHR protects the criminals more than the victims.

It protects you.

Exactly, the ‘progressives’ are the biggest racists of all

They are the people who call black and brown people names if those people have the audacity to not play victim to satisfy the ‘white guilt’ fashionable trend

Are you able to provide proof of this? I can think of one example, which I think went to court, but I don't see it as something widespread, unlike amongst Reformites.

Eta: this is the case I was thinking of, but the woman concerned was found not guilty.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2x202v2ejo.amp

You are at pains not to answer the question.

Do you want to the UK to leaave the ECHR?