Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor - you have blood on your hands

[Muffinmam]

Am I being unreasonable to say that Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor - the Duke of York and member of the Royal Family has blood on his hands following the tragic suicide of Virginia Giuffre?

Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor has faced zero consequences for his role in Virginia Giuffre‘s sexual abuse and trafficking because he’s rich and his powerful mummy paid off the victim and the British police failed to pursue charges against him. To be clear, while the age of consent in the UK is 17 years old this does not apply to trafficking victims and Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor has never faced criminal charges.

He probably thinks he’s got away with it now she’s gone.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14649791/Virginia-Giuffre-suicide-perth-mansion.html

This this this

I haven't got the stomach to read this thread to be honest but I do know because it has happened in the past, there will be Andrew apologists there will be posters saying she knew what she was doing, there will be posters saying she was 17 so she did what she did of her own free will. And there will be plenty of posters saying endlessly Andrew wasn't proven to have slept with her. Without going into great detail because I could go on forever, he knew where he was, he knew what he was doing by just being that among very very young girls, and anyone who supports him really should take a long hard look in the mirror.

It makes me sick. People really need to read up about trafficking. You can be 30 and be a trafficked victim.

Prince Philip had more royal blood than the Queen did in fact!

Check out what a "paedophile" is for future reference.

How do you know "she would never have done it"? Clearly her personal life has been troubled in recent times. You have no idea what was going through her mind!

Quite. He was certainly no commoner. His mother was Princess Alice of Battenberg and his father Prince Andrew of Greece.

I'd be very interested in the Trump/Epstein connection personally...

That's simply not the case.

Reaching a legal settlement is not an admission of guilt, and they are very common, including employment law cases which are regularly settled with no liability accepted.

Indeed, so why aren't there multiple other accusers in that case? VG would hardly be the only one, would she?

What a sensationalist headline and then language such as “ the ginger one”, a job at the DM is waiting for you

A very poor show using this woman’s death to try and score points against the RF, although not all together surprising

I hope she now finds the peace that she couldn’t find in life

Maybe we could just think about the victim here, Virginia Guiffre.

She had a difficult early life, she was promised all sorts by a woman who is serving 20 years in jail for procuring young girls for Epstein
Of course she would be wowed by Andrew being Royalty, and anyone who thinks he didn't even meet her, needs to have a head wobble. He blatantly lied in his car crash interview about when he cut contact with Epstein (court papers show this) and whilst I don't hold him responsible for what has happened to Virginia, he was part of the problem, rich influential white men taking advantage of young girls. we have to remember that she fought for trafficked victims tirelessly. And it is a tragedy that her life had to end like this

I never want to see Andrew:s stupid face ever again. Unfortunately his family still embrace him, I imagine they think he hasn't done much wrong.

Evidence?????

London's Metropolitan Police said they were not conducting any new investigations into Prince Andrew after a 2016 deposition accusing him of groping a woman's breast was released this week. The deposition was among hundreds of pages of mostly unredacted documents related to Jeffrey Epstein unsealed this week under the order of a judge in a now-settled defamation case brought by Virginia Giuffre, one of Epstein's victims.

In the deposition, Johanna Sjoberg alleges she was groped by Prince Andrew in 2001, when she was 21. The allegation is not new, and BBC News reports Buckingham Palace previously called her allegations "categorically untrue."

Sjoberg says she met Andrew when she was brought to Epstein's home in New York in 2001 by Ghislaine Maxwell. Virginia Giuffre, whose lawsuit accusing Prince Andrew of sexual abuse was settled out of court in 2022, was also at the house at the time.

Sjoberg said she initially didn't know who the British royal was, until Maxwell took her to get a caricature puppet of him from a BBC show. Then, she said, she sat on Andrew's lap, while Giuffre sat beside him on the couch with the puppet in her own lap. The group took a photo with the Prince Andrew puppet groping Giuffre's breast, and Andrew himself groping Sjoberg's.

In an excerpted transcript from a deposition of Maxwell released among the documents unsealed this week, she seemingly confirmed the existence of the puppet — which she called "Not a puppet. I don't know how you would describe it. A caricature of Prince Andrew that was in Jeffrey's home." When asked about the incident Sjoberg described, she said, "I don't recollect. I recollect the puppet but I don't recollect anything around the puppet," before saying again it was a "characterization of Andrew."

They have also fluttered their eyelids innocently when milllions of £££ turned up in their bank accounts, and accepted all manner of gifts from all sorts of shady people associated with their parents. They couldn't care less. Neither do the rest of the Royals

I agree with you absolutely. However, not the last sentence. The only people who seem to be embracing Andrew are his (ex) wife and daughters. Going to the same church for the Easter Sunday service doesn't really mean much..

He's a pig of a man and will rot in hell alongside Epstein. That poor woman had her life destroyed.

Absolutely. They are cut from the same cloth. Thousands of pounds as gifts, diamond necklaces and whatever. I am sorry to say they are their father's daughters.

They also seem to turn up to the opening of an envelope.

She was recently involved in a traffic accident where she claimed a bus hit her at high speed causing major life threatening injuries. Apparently it was a minor accident with no recorded injuries. One report I read suggested she wasn't actually in the car.

I read somewhere that her parents allowed her to go and live with Epstein's at age 14.
I've always thought they were responsible for what happened to their child.
It's all very sleazy. I hope she RIP now.

Yes I think her father drove her there and dropped her off. They clearly couldn't give a damn about anything except the money she was being given. They got a massive payout too apparently.

Yeah and most ordinary families have that one relative who makes your heart sink when you know your going to have to attend the same function as them and inspires a mutter of "oh no, X isn't coming are they? They're a right knobber". The royals are no different.

And carrying on their fathers work of attending events in the Middle East as 'envoys' for something or other, despite having no qualifications or experience.

At that time Andrew was (believe it or not) a heartthrob and a player. Lots of girls would have slept with him; he was used to all this adulation so probably didn't think anything of it.
I also think he's sleazy BUT that doesn't make him a paedophile. I honestly don't think he's interested then or now in little kids. She was 17, at the lower end, but still within the "groupie" age which was probably under 25. She was a woman, not a little girl.
I also honestly don't think his own daughters would support him if they for one moment thought he was interested in children.

So the pictures in the paper with a closed eye cuts and bruises all over her face was just make up was it?
I find it very distasteful but you are talking like this about someone who has literally just committed suicide

Yes, they are being labeed as Middle Eastern unofficial diplomats or some such other crap. Funny isn't it that he just managed to convince the Royal officials that he could maintain his sprawling Royal estate because he had the money, after their forays over there

I always wondered where the parents were in this.
Teen daughter being flown around the world in private jets etc is not normal in the slightest.