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To dare to think that the Cult of Dog has gone too far?

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MariLlwyd · 25/04/2025 11:43

There is now not a single public space in my home town that is dog-free - and that includes cafes, restaurants and even the library. Local beaches, once a quiet escape, have turned into asylums for the fur baby/pupper brigade to inflict their poorly trained animals on others with children getting chased, people jumped on and tripped over and all to the sound of hysterical barking and frequent dog fights.
80 year old woman knocked over by uncontrollable dog? 'You got in his way'.
Ask politely that you take your dog away from our lunch table? 'Go fuck yourself'.
Sit on the most remote bench you can find? Peri-menopausal wild eyed harridan lets loose 3 dogs from her 4x4 to jump all over you and laughs that it's 'their spot' and turns unhinged when you push them away.
Yes, this is a rant and yes I hate most dog owners.
This weird cult that values darling dogs over human beings is actually pretty worrying.
I shall await the inevitable and hilarious 'incoming' from the emotionally stunted Doggo Nutters.

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HeyThereDelila · 25/04/2025 21:52

YANBU. They shouldn’t be in cafes, libraries or on beaches in summer. It’s infuriating.

They’re dogs: not children.

NeedASafeSpace · 25/04/2025 21:59

HeyThereDelila · 25/04/2025 21:52

YANBU. They shouldn’t be in cafes, libraries or on beaches in summer. It’s infuriating.

They’re dogs: not children.

If they are allowed somewhere, then no wrong doing is occurring. A lot of beaches have a dog bit on them. Yes, it is shite when do owners ignore signs about no dogs on other parts of the beach. But they are doing nothing wrong by going on dog friendly parts of the beach.
And most dogs fucking love beaches. My dog loses her mind once she feels the sand between her toes.

Rummly · 25/04/2025 22:12

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Rude! I’m not a cow or miserable.

Not worshipping dogs is a common thing.

I just think dog owners need much tighter controls. Even you.

Katemax82 · 25/04/2025 23:07

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 25/04/2025 12:05

I once looked after a lovely man with severe autism who was TERRIFIED of dogs.

We were once having a picnic and a dog came over, I asked the owner to call it away as the man I was supporting was really visibly anxious and she responded with, “it’s okay, she’s friendly”.

It was the only time I’ve properly lost my shit in public.

I understand that we needed to work with him on his phobia but her entitlement was insane.

Same with children. Children are small. Some dogs are huge. It must be like being faced with a brown bear.

I get this with my sons. They're autistic and hate dogs so I won't tolerate the owners thinking it's OK for their dogs to jump up at my kids ",because they're friendly ". My stepdad recently got a huge lurcher who he won't leave at home ever. He doesn't comecround anymore because we won't allow his dog round

Katemax82 · 25/04/2025 23:13

We went to a dog friendly restaurant on holiday and were seated next to a table where 2 dogs were. 2 of my kids are autistic and hate dogs. I got round it by sitting them as far away from the dogs as possible. Moving forwards I have to always request not to be seated near dogs ffs

NeedASafeSpace · 25/04/2025 23:16

Katemax82 · 25/04/2025 23:13

We went to a dog friendly restaurant on holiday and were seated next to a table where 2 dogs were. 2 of my kids are autistic and hate dogs. I got round it by sitting them as far away from the dogs as possible. Moving forwards I have to always request not to be seated near dogs ffs

The staff are not mind readers. If you would prefer not to be seated near dogs then you need to state that... especially if you are somewhere that welcomes dogs.

OonaStubbs · 25/04/2025 23:28

Many dog owners just see the way they live as "normal" and don't realise how other people might not like dogs or want to be around them.

Megirlan123 · 25/04/2025 23:32

I completely agree with you and I am a dog owner. My dog is NEVER off the lead if there is anyone in sight.
I never take her into restaurants etc, one because I don’t like animals being close by in restaurants when I’m trying to eat and two, she’s a dog, it’s not her thing!!!
I also agree so many dog owners are entitled asses.

CarmelaBrunella · 25/04/2025 23:42

OonaStubbs · 25/04/2025 23:28

Many dog owners just see the way they live as "normal" and don't realise how other people might not like dogs or want to be around them.

It's a strange sort of social blindness.

Yellowdresses · 25/04/2025 23:55

CanteringAlong · 25/04/2025 20:30

We love to visit the coast but have to stay away the six months of the year that dogs are allowed on beaches as my children are scared of them. I find it so unhygienic that they are allowed there in the sea.

You know there are fish, seals and shellfish in the sea? Living, eating, excreting, mating?

Dog have a bit of a swim - i don't see how this can be unhygienic, the sea is very big! I think people are lots more likely to wee in the sea than dogs too.

FunMustard · 26/04/2025 00:05

There was a woman with a dog in John Lewis the other day. JOHN EFFIN LEWIS.

I dislike dogs in general, I don't want to be around them, and I don't want to have to worry about possibly stepping in shit while I'm perusing expensive clothing or whatever.

I would suggest those people who have never seen dogs being badly behaved are blind to it as you are dog people!

CarmelaBrunella · 26/04/2025 00:08

Why on earth would you take your dog into John Lewis? Is it giving an opinion on summer seperates? I saw one in Clarks a little while ago, just running round, sniffing the shoes.
People used to tie dogs up outside shops. This co-shopping is a new phenomenon.

ffsfindmeausername · 26/04/2025 01:24

RampantIvy · 25/04/2025 18:42

Wish they did as I hate having to tie my dog up outside while I nip in a shop I have huge anxiety about someone stealing him.

Can't you leave him at home when you go shopping?

yes I mostly do but sometimes if we are out and about i occasionally want to nip into a shop, it's not very often but have done it a few times.

Usernamenope · 26/04/2025 02:28

I can't stand big dogs on buses or other public transport (except assistance dogs).

They are usually lying across the aisle and everyone else on the bus has to try and jump over them if they want to get off. If I was scared of dogs, vulnerable or a frightened child, it's like getting past Cerberus! They honestly shouldn't be allowed on buses as it is a closed environment where no one else has an option to move away from them.

Mickeychampionwhatgoodami · 26/04/2025 05:27

I got called an arsehole for moving on a bus..I'm a bit funny about an XL bully being on the seat in front of me and it was level with my face facing me.

BitOutOfPractice · 26/04/2025 05:37

Dog continually barking in the pub last night. No attempt by the owner to quieten it - he was seemingly oblivious. Everyone else glaring.

Inthetyreshop · 26/04/2025 05:41

Dogs should be allowed at beaches but there should be half dog beach half no dogs allowed. I don't agree with dogs in cafes but outdoor pubs/restaurants yes.

this is just my opinion though I don't rule the world so live and let live.

Inthetyreshop · 26/04/2025 05:49

WibbleyPie · 25/04/2025 12:06

It's not really the dogs that are the problem, it's the increasing selfish attitude of society and that some people don't see why they should behave in an appropriate manner in shared spaces, so they don't ruin it for everyone else. They simply don't care if they impact other people - but they usually demand they're treated with respect, tolerance and deference by everyone else and there's hell to pay if they are impacted by being asked to behave in a way that doesn't impact others negatively.

They want a dog and so they get one and aren't in the slightest bit interested in anything other than fulfilling their want with none of the responsibility that comes with either dog ownership or being a member of society.

Even if all dogs dropped off the face of the earth tomorrow those people would still have that attitude and still manage to ruin shared spaces for others in existing, new and original ways. At the moment it's dogs, and I can forsee eventually the popularity will drop because rules will change and they will be restricted and then something else will take their place.

As ever, it's humans causing this, the dogs are just a symptom.

Absolutely same could be said for children.

Kids running up and down restaurants, shops, buggies blocking lanes of shops, buggies in disabled bays, kids chasing birds, cats and stabbing eachother.

Selfish society is the problem and everyone is entitled or thinks their fur babies, children, cars, life is more important than others

So rather than complain about it live and let live because I am sure there are things we all do which someone else will complain about.

Agix · 26/04/2025 05:50

I love dogs, or used to - I find myself becoming increasingly more scared of them due to things happening.

Dogs randomly jumping at you when you're minding your own business, dogs randomly running up growling and nipping at my father's dog and his ankles (dad's dog was being a good sweet girl, and on a lead). Dogs being let free roaming out of houses - there's an XL bully around the corner who the owners just let out to wander the street outside their home. No mishaps yet, besides barging into people and knocking them over.. It's "just playing". Dread the day when it snaps. Kids play around there.

It didn't used to be this bad. You'd go for a walk in the park and there would be dogs walking nicely on leads... Or if the dog was off lead, it didn't bother you and was well behaved (which I'm guessing is why the owners let it off, because it was a good dog). I remember walking around asking people of I could pet their dogs, it was lovely.

You go for a walk in a park now and get a dog chasing you, jumping at you. They snap, bite, bark, nip, chase. Owners let their dog off lead when they have zero control, or zero desire to exercise the control they do have - don't know which is worse. They don't give a shit if their dog comes and bothers you, or worse. The dogs are badly behaved and unpredictable.

It's really exasperated my agoraphobia, as the moments I catch myself thinking "right, I can go on a nice walk to the park right now!" I remember "oh I can't, the dogs". It's the same just walking through the town, because people just let their dogs wander about. As a result I just don't leave my house really.

Inthetyreshop · 26/04/2025 05:56

Agix · 26/04/2025 05:50

I love dogs, or used to - I find myself becoming increasingly more scared of them due to things happening.

Dogs randomly jumping at you when you're minding your own business, dogs randomly running up growling and nipping at my father's dog and his ankles (dad's dog was being a good sweet girl, and on a lead). Dogs being let free roaming out of houses - there's an XL bully around the corner who the owners just let out to wander the street outside their home. No mishaps yet, besides barging into people and knocking them over.. It's "just playing". Dread the day when it snaps. Kids play around there.

It didn't used to be this bad. You'd go for a walk in the park and there would be dogs walking nicely on leads... Or if the dog was off lead, it didn't bother you and was well behaved (which I'm guessing is why the owners let it off, because it was a good dog). I remember walking around asking people of I could pet their dogs, it was lovely.

You go for a walk in a park now and get a dog chasing you, jumping at you. They snap, bite, bark, nip, chase. Owners let their dog off lead when they have zero control, or zero desire to exercise the control they do have - don't know which is worse. They don't give a shit if their dog comes and bothers you, or worse. The dogs are badly behaved and unpredictable.

It's really exasperated my agoraphobia, as the moments I catch myself thinking "right, I can go on a nice walk to the park right now!" I remember "oh I can't, the dogs". It's the same just walking through the town, because people just let their dogs wander about. As a result I just don't leave my house really.

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I very much doubt it is a XL bully and just your uneducated mind that every bull breed is XL bully
If it was roaming free the police would have picked it up.

Educate yourself on the different types of bull breeds and mastiffs before you spread rumours about someone else.

k1233 · 26/04/2025 06:17

I love my dogs but hesitate to take them out due to the behaviour you describe - off leash mongrels who obviously get their poor temperaments from their shit owners. Where I live dogs are required to be on leash unless in designated off leash areas. Of course their owners don't care and dogs without manners run wherever they like. I went off like a banshee at one owner - her off leash mutt rushed my two small, on leash dogs. Went right off because we were quite literally standing outside an off leash park (fenced). If she wanted her dog to run around off leash, that's where it belonged not harassing people and dogs minding their own business on the footpath.

I never used to care until my, again on leash, dog was attacked on a morning walk. My current dogs would not have survived that attack, so I am very alert to anything that could possibly harm them and have zero tolerance for those who think by-laws don't apply to them.

CarmelaBrunella · 26/04/2025 06:28

ffsfindmeausername · 26/04/2025 01:24

yes I mostly do but sometimes if we are out and about i occasionally want to nip into a shop, it's not very often but have done it a few times.

If you're just going to "nip in" to a shop, can't you tie it up outside? Like people used to?

GingerBeverage · 26/04/2025 06:28

Mickeychampionwhatgoodami · 26/04/2025 05:27

I got called an arsehole for moving on a bus..I'm a bit funny about an XL bully being on the seat in front of me and it was level with my face facing me.

I moved carriages on a train and got verbal abuse. No regrets.

abracadabra1980 · 26/04/2025 06:34

Yawn

CarmelaBrunella · 26/04/2025 06:35

Inthetyreshop · 26/04/2025 05:49

Absolutely same could be said for children.

Kids running up and down restaurants, shops, buggies blocking lanes of shops, buggies in disabled bays, kids chasing birds, cats and stabbing eachother.

Selfish society is the problem and everyone is entitled or thinks their fur babies, children, cars, life is more important than others

So rather than complain about it live and let live because I am sure there are things we all do which someone else will complain about.

The pay off with children is that they are our future. They will be workers and taxpayers, they will be out medical teams, politicians, teachers, lawyers, bus drivers, care home workers. With the exception of working dogs, there is no comparison.

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