To dare to think that the Cult of Dog has gone too far?

[MariLlwyd]

There is now not a single public space in my home town that is dog-free - and that includes cafes, restaurants and even the library. Local beaches, once a quiet escape, have turned into asylums for the fur baby/pupper brigade to inflict their poorly trained animals on others with children getting chased, people jumped on and tripped over and all to the sound of hysterical barking and frequent dog fights.
80 year old woman knocked over by uncontrollable dog? 'You got in his way'.
Ask politely that you take your dog away from our lunch table? 'Go fuck yourself'.
Sit on the most remote bench you can find? Peri-menopausal wild eyed harridan lets loose 3 dogs from her 4x4 to jump all over you and laughs that it's 'their spot' and turns unhinged when you push them away.
Yes, this is a rant and yes I hate most dog owners.
This weird cult that values darling dogs over human beings is actually pretty worrying.
I shall await the inevitable and hilarious 'incoming' from the emotionally stunted Doggo Nutters.

OP has apologised for this twice now. She even admits to being one!

Which is why anyone who wants a better life needs to avoid places that welcome dogs, even if they really want to go.

Yes, but me buying an ice cream for my dog does not mean a child is going without breakfast somewhere.
You sound like my mum when I was little. Had to eat my left overs because of starving kids in Africa.

It must have been at least 48 hours since we last had a dog moaning thread

I suppose that's because people are really fed up of dogs everywhere.

YANBU. I love dogs and grew up with them, but there’s absolutely no need for them to be allowed everywhere. I don’t believe dogs want to be in cafes, restaurants and shopping centres, surrounded by strangers. Every time a see a dog in that situation their body language screams nervousness and discomfort. It’s just selfish bloody minded owners hell
bent on continuing their lives regardless with no thought for the animal.

The point the OP was making is that the number of dog free places has reduced quite significantly.

Me too, tickled me
😂

Because is it made from bland ingredients that are safe for dogs (no dairy milk, no sweetners etc).
Humans can eat it, but they probably wont enjoy it.

They are allowed everywhere because venues don’t want to/ can’t afford to lose a very large market- the dog owner market. I was looking at booking a holiday home with the landmark Trust, all their properties are dog friendly, except on Lundy island ( because it’s basically one big sheep farm).

There were no exaggerations in my post. Suggest you Google just how far Pembrokeshire pushes it's 'dog friendly' mantra.

I have owned a dog in the past so obviously don't mind dogs. But I do have an issue with owners who don't look after, train, pick up after their dog. I also don't believe that dogs should be allowed in cafes or public buildings unless they are a service dog.
It's pretty horrendous that some 13+ million dogs can make public areas practically no go areas just because of their owners due to behavioural issues or simply just cleaning up after their pet.
Bring back dog licencing and add in a code of conduct which can be enshrined in law to make owners responsible for all aspects of dog ownership.

I think I need to move to this utopia because in all of the towns and cities I’m nearest to, dogs are definitely not allowed in all cafes and restaurants. Dogs have always been allowed in all outdoor public spaces though so no change there.

I find it's mostly men who do the "don't worry, he's friendly" thing anyway. Women are normally suitably apologetic if their dogs or kids inconvenience other people, but men as a gender have a much higher tolerance for intruding themselves (or allowing their dogs or kids to intrude) on other people.

Your dog does these things because you feed it.

Your dog cannot come on MN and complain about its parents, or about you. That’s its attraction for you.

Dogs are never more important than children. The whole idea of that comparison is bonkers.

No one is suggesting dogs are human, but my right to go for a nice walk and not have my “property” (I.e. dog) interfered with is no less important that those of someone to have their screaming toddler run around. Some people don’t like dogs, fine, some people don’t like screaming kids, rowdy drunks or strong perfume in enclosed spaces, if everyone is broadly considerate then there shouldn’t be too much of an issue but that doesn’t mean the people who dislike dogs get to win and exclude them form common spaces.

Often the flavours are not something humans would choose but that dogs like, sometimes they don’t use dairy or sugar and most humans want dairy ice cream and wouldn’t like ice cream without sugar, so not harmful to humans but not palatable to most.

@tsmainsqueeze apologies didnt mean to quote you!

You’ve just said it all. Dogs are property. Children are people.

The dogs are a misdirect though.

If these people had kids, monkeys, pet aliens, big loud cars, any other potentially irritating thing they'd still be inconsiderate entitled twatbags.

The problem is people seem to have lost any consideration for others, think they're entitled to do as they please and fuck the rest of us... and some of those people have dogs and make their cunty fucker behaviour obvious that way.

Take the dogs away though.. and they'd still be arseholes.

Think we should start a separate thread for us wild eyed harridans - there's a few
of us. I think it's pain which makes my eyes look wild 🤪

Dogs have different breeds so different DNA. Which has been compounded by centuries or decades of breeding.

Certain dog breeds were bred to be companion/lap dogs.

Some were bred to hunt.

Some were bred to fight.

Your idea that a dog who wants to be with their owner all the time being a result of 'babying' ignores the DNA and breeding

It's the same as the XL bully owners who say it's all about bad owners and nothing to do with the breed.

And i think of several in the news who discovered that was in fact, not the case after their dog attacked other dogs, people or indeed the owner.

It’s been going on a long time.im Irish. I love animals and we always had well loved and cared for dogs. When we were little and went to England on holidays we used to think dog owners were completely nuts. A lot on them seemed fonder and more considerate of their dog than their actual family.

Agree.

I have two dogs, they’re great, but they’re my dogs. They’re not babies, children, whatever…they’re dogs. They do doggy things in doggy places and are trained appropriately. And I love doing doggy things with them.

However, I also love doing human things with my husband, family, friends in human places and I don’t want my dogs there, or anybody else’s for that matter.

So, as a dog owner, I totally agree with you.
However, I think it’s fundamentally an owner issue, rather than a dog issue. Dogs have no say in what they do, their owners do.

Always had dogs, love dogs, don’t ever see myself without dogs. But the recent uptake of premium-price crossbreeds combined with a frequent lack of training and hugely inflated sense of owner (dog-mama) entitlement pisses me right off. YANBU about the cult of dog.

I own 2 dogs and even I agree with you.

what really pisses me off is the entitlement of many (not all, I’m not) dog owners.

quite a few rock up to our local park run, the dogs do nothing but bark constantly, can’t hear the person talking at the beginning, the dogs fight and pull trying to get at each other whilst the owners tinkle nervously at each other. I start at the back as I’m a Park Walker mainly and the dogs get in peoples way and I tripped over one last week.

i wouldn’t dream of taking mine, she’s a pain and gets way too excited.