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To go to a&e - blood keeps leaking from eye socket.

122 replies

cyrkus · 22/04/2025 03:26

When I say pouring, I’ll suddenly get a gush from my left eye socket, then it stops. It’s happened three times now. Have no idea what to do. It’s not painful particularly - feels like I’ve scratched the eye or irritated it a bit. But - each time it looks pretty gruesome. Any thoughts? Would a&e be unreasonable?

OP posts:
wannawoo · 22/04/2025 09:12

But an optician can scan and refer with info. Would bet (forgive me for insulting the great gp) will not have anything as near sophisticated to contribute

Bigfatsunandclouds · 22/04/2025 09:12

OP make an appointment with an optician this morning, that Dr sounds awful at A&E.

SecretFerret · 22/04/2025 09:12

Op Google ocular venous malformation, which sounds like a contender for your symptoms.

Emonade · 22/04/2025 09:14

cyrkus · 22/04/2025 08:33

Hi all. Thanks for (mostly!) supportive messages. So I went to moorfields. The doctor found what it was - a very small malformation of the veins which is bleeding. She was pretty rude though. First she said it was impossible as there is no structure in the eye socket that can bleed. And was I sure. 😀 I said that I was sure. When she found it she said it was tiny - I asked her what we can do about it and she said I don’t know. So I said what do we do if it continues to bleed. To which the answer was (again) I don’t know. She did say if it grew they could call it something and I said ok, and then what would we do. You can guess the answer. I also told her it hurts a bit to which she said it can’t do. So … not sure what happens next. Hope it stops? I just really hope it doesn’t bleed in public because quite frankly it looks horrific!

I’m sorry for your experience with that doctor, there’s nothing worse than a bit of medical gaslighting, I would go and see the GP today/this week or maybe the optician?

VintedVirginal · 22/04/2025 09:17

Lazlothevampire · 22/04/2025 09:10

Don’t bother with a GP. Honestly, go to an optician. They will refer you to an eye hospital.

OP has been to the eye hospital- she's updated.

Lazlothevampire · 22/04/2025 09:17

wannawoo · 22/04/2025 09:12

But an optician can scan and refer with info. Would bet (forgive me for insulting the great gp) will not have anything as near sophisticated to contribute

Yes, the optician is the best bet. A GP doesn’t have the equipment to see what’s going on.

A routine eye test with specsavers had me an urgent referral to the eye hospital for that day, the optician phoned them and got me in.

Shakirasma · 22/04/2025 09:19

I would also suggest an optician after your unhelpful a and e visit. They dont just deal with vision, they are the best point of contact for eye health and will definitely be more knowledgeable than an a and e doctor. They can do scans and arrange a specialist referral if needed.

Lazlothevampire · 22/04/2025 09:19

VintedVirginal · 22/04/2025 09:17

OP has been to the eye hospital- she's updated.

I know - I’m talking about all the later advice to book an appointment with GP going forward. That would be utterly useless.

She either needs to go back to the eye hospital, or to an optician who can refer her on.

Wishitsnows · 22/04/2025 09:20

Hope you are able to see someone else today. Yet another dismissing symptoms and pain as they are not knowledgeable in that area and rather than admit it say it is impossible! Hopefully an optician will be able to help and maybe refer you.

wannawoo · 22/04/2025 09:21

Ah sorry I didn’t realise that was an eye hospital. Speechless then.

Nominative · 22/04/2025 09:22

Lazlothevampire · 22/04/2025 09:19

I know - I’m talking about all the later advice to book an appointment with GP going forward. That would be utterly useless.

She either needs to go back to the eye hospital, or to an optician who can refer her on.

My GP was actually very helpful in a similarish situation and got me in front of an eye specialist later the same day.

youcannaecallherfanny · 22/04/2025 09:24

Don’t go to the gp. You need to go to an optician - a literal eye doctor!

Conqueeftador · 22/04/2025 09:30

As others have said it’s better to go in the day, on a weekday, when all the specialists will be in, rather than just the on call Dr. They were pretty shit to basically say I’ve not seen this before, so don’t know and am not going to do anything to find out for you (ie. Make a clinic appt).
I would make an appointment with your GP or an optician and insist on a referral to an ophthalmic consultant. Though it might be nothing there could be a risk in a malformation of clotting or bleeding causing pressure to your eye and then effecting your vision. I think this is more often a condition found in children, so may explain how useless they were, but that doesn’t forgive the offhand way it was dealt with.

Conqueeftador · 22/04/2025 09:31

youcannaecallherfanny · 22/04/2025 09:24

Don’t go to the gp. You need to go to an optician - a literal eye doctor!

An optician is not an eye Dr, an ophthalmologist is.
Edit to say an optician is still a good call, as can refer you to an ophthalmologist.

gamerchick · 22/04/2025 09:33

Probably better to go to an optician. They have all the kit and they can refer you if needed.

KittyKatttt · 22/04/2025 09:33

Sorry you were dismissed. Either make a GP appointment or go to the optician asap. I didn’t realise how much pull opticians had until I went a few weeks ago and I walked away with an emergency appointment to the eye hospital the next day.

My GP had referred me to the same hospital a few weeks before!

IVbumble · 22/04/2025 09:33

@cyrkus do you have one of these eye clinics in your area - you can self-refer via a phone call & they will update you as to the correct NHS service for you.

https://www.evolutio-ophthalmology.co.uk

Evolutio Home Page - Evolutio Care Innovations

https://www.evolutio-ophthalmology.co.uk

cyrkus · 22/04/2025 09:38

Thanks so much again everybody! I've made an appointment for the optician for Friday. I'm meant to be speaking at a conference shortly - I have this dread that I'll be on the podium and the horror show will start up! Yikes!

OP posts:
Iamnotalemming · 22/04/2025 09:42

How bloody rude of the A&E Dr. Hope your speaking slot goes well.

If it happens again you should take photos in case you get fobbed off at another appointment.

gamerchick · 22/04/2025 09:45

Photos or a video when it happens. Some drs are horrible.

Mosaic123 · 22/04/2025 09:56

Keep a few tissues for reassurance as you speak.

LizziesCat · 22/04/2025 09:56

Pollypocket81 · 22/04/2025 08:52

Absolutely -

if you did get a video of the bleeding it will
be very useful in helping someone more
appropriate diagnose your issue.
I hope you see someone more polite too!

Photos, video if it occurs again and back to Moorfields a&e during the day, that doctor sounds dreadful

MrsSkylerWhite · 22/04/2025 09:58

Do you have a walk in centre nearby?

It needs looking at: my mum ruptured a vessel with an eye line pencil years ago and it needed antibiotics. You’ll be seen more quickly at a walk-in than at A&E

Comtesse · 22/04/2025 09:59

Not the opticians - got back to Moorfields or Western Eye Hospital (by Baker St). Western have always been good when I’ve had problems before.

anyolddinosaur · 22/04/2025 10:21

I'd put in a formal complaint about the doctor, who should have consulted someone more senior if they had no idea what to do about it. Haemolacria is a technical term for crying blood, although this sounds like more than just blood in your tears.

You need to see a consultant. Hopefully the optician will refer you to one. If not go back to a&e and say you need to see someone more senior.

Unexplained bleeding always means seeing a doctor promptly, you were quite right to go to a&e.