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Friend ok with Husband having sex with prostitutes.

100 replies

Concernedchilli · 21/04/2025 17:36

Backstory is friend and her husband have been together for 30ish years, they are both late 40s with 3 young children. Wife hasn't been interested in sex since first child was born roughly 11 years ago and think things have been a bit strained between them.

She's reasonably private only drops a few things into conversation about this here and there over the years. I've recently found out (not through friend herself) that she has said to her husband that she is fine with him sleeping with prostitutes.

He travels for work to a lot of UK cities for sales so assume this would be easy for him to do and not bring it to her doorstep.

I feel a bit strange about it, we spend a fair bit of time them as a couple and as families with young children, and i know her family very well and am friends with her brothers wife now knowing this information has made me look at them both a bit differently. Aibu?

OP posts:
OldSkuul · 21/04/2025 19:10

YouAreAToy · 21/04/2025 19:02

You can’t surely be comparing a necessary medical procedure carried out by a nurse to this. FFS.

Yes I can. Because if consent can't be bought, or paying someone to do an unpleasant service is akin to buying them, it would be unethical to do even if it's a necessary medical procedure.

As a society we understand that actually buying humans - or human parts - is wrong, which is why necessary or not, you can't buy a kidney.

Sex is a service. As long as the provider sells it consensually, there is no issue with buying it.

Allseeingallknowing · 21/04/2025 19:11

bugalugs45 · 21/04/2025 17:42

It’s not really any of your business tbh , it wouldn’t work for me , but appears to be for them so I’d say crack on !

Literally

Sunnywalker · 21/04/2025 19:20

How did they have 2nd and 3rd children if that’s the case ?

Zanzara · 21/04/2025 19:22

Init4thecatz · 21/04/2025 18:05

That's the thing I'm curious about. All those saying no to Prostitutes, what are the 'realistic alternatives?

  • Prostitutes are grim. Trafficking, health risks...
  • Dating/OLD/affair means you're risking feelings

Masturbation.
Divorce.
Agreement as to a certain amount of sex within the marriage.
Marriage counseling..
Abstinence.
Taking up embroidery or kangaroo boxing.

The possibilities are endless.

Rosie8880 · 21/04/2025 19:27

You haven’t found out anything. Someone else told you something… essentially this is gossip. At this point you don’t know anything. Also even if this is an arrangement - until your friend shares to you directly how she feels, you still don’t know anything. So, leave it alone and to the pal that shared this with you - I’d ask her / tell her you’re not comfortable with her sharing this.

brettsalanger · 21/04/2025 19:28

nothing to do with you.

the arrangement clearly suits them both.

Zanzara · 21/04/2025 19:29

The OP's update about the DH sharing this story and grubby details with his pals is abhorrent. He has no respect for his wife, and she should know this.

EarthaKittsVoice · 21/04/2025 19:42

jsku · 21/04/2025 18:10

But your feelings are based on gossip. 🤷🏻‍♀️
You don’t know what was said and what he is doing (or not).

She may have said smth like - I do not want to have sex - so take care of your need for sex in any way that does not threaten our marriage.

'Take care of your need for sex in any way that does not threaten our marriage.'

Once a third or more persons are brought into a marriage, it is doomed. There are Sti/Std(s) that can be passed on via skin to skin contact. So he could use a condom but that doesn't mean all is safe and well.

Veggielepsy · 21/04/2025 19:50

Isittimeformynapyet · 21/04/2025 18:24

By "she" do you mean the friend in the marriage who no longer wants sex?

Are you ignoring the bit where OP explained it was a third party who told her? It's right there, in the OP!

Missed that bit, apols. Sounds like it's round the whole village even the youths via the husband though which I think is shitty of him even if they have got an agreement.

JHound · 21/04/2025 19:52

cinnamongirl123 · 21/04/2025 18:15

I feel like the scenario where there’s a partnership or marriage, and kids, but where one person has totally (for whatever reason) stopped wanting to have sex with the other partner - needs to be analysed and publicised more. Where are all the relationship therapists, counsellors, psychologists, psychiatrists, agony aunts, sex therapists etc etc? Why are they not helping the many, many couples who end up in this situation?

They are available if those couples go and speak to them.

JHound · 21/04/2025 19:56

Outrageistheopiateofthemasses · 21/04/2025 18:51

Either would be an immediate deal-breaker for me. However, at least in the latter you presume that he has her consent and at least considers her a person. The former potentially involves rape of human trafficking victims and the inability to distinguish between a woman and a sock, as both are just objects.

Honestly I genuinely think both have enough examples of men seeing women just as a sock.

Sex work or men using OLD.

JHound · 21/04/2025 20:01

OldSkuul · 21/04/2025 18:54

This. And the fact that most people see sex work for what it actually is - selling a service, not the actual women.

Disabled people pay for nurses that help them with bowel movements. Not the most pleasant job in the world, and certainly not something the nurses would consent to do without the money. But everyone understands that what is being bought is a service not the actual nurse, and that paid consent is in fact consent.

A lot of people assume paying for sex means not seeing a woman as a person and not paying means you do and I never het that. It’s over simplification. Plenty of men see hookups as just about getting a free sex worker and act like that.

The reason why I ended my brief foray into the world of casual sex is that I realised discussed with FSSW friends, the only difference between my experiences and theirs was I was not paid. So I stopped.

I think people look at open marriages but not with sex workers as the more palatable option but ignore the huge emotional fall out that can occur.

JHound · 21/04/2025 20:02

EarthaKittsVoice · 21/04/2025 19:42

'Take care of your need for sex in any way that does not threaten our marriage.'

Once a third or more persons are brought into a marriage, it is doomed. There are Sti/Std(s) that can be passed on via skin to skin contact. So he could use a condom but that doesn't mean all is safe and well.

I guess if the wife is not having sex with him ever again it’s not her concern.

ballettap · 21/04/2025 20:03

OldSkuul · 21/04/2025 19:10

Yes I can. Because if consent can't be bought, or paying someone to do an unpleasant service is akin to buying them, it would be unethical to do even if it's a necessary medical procedure.

As a society we understand that actually buying humans - or human parts - is wrong, which is why necessary or not, you can't buy a kidney.

Sex is a service. As long as the provider sells it consensually, there is no issue with buying it.

The problem is you don't know if they are consensually providing a service or they're being trafficked.

I've yet to hear of NHS staff being trafficked into their job.

JHound · 21/04/2025 20:05

Sunnywalker · 21/04/2025 19:20

How did they have 2nd and 3rd children if that’s the case ?

One presumes sex. But now the kids are here no need for anymore sex.

OldSkuul · 21/04/2025 20:10

ballettap · 21/04/2025 20:03

The problem is you don't know if they are consensually providing a service or they're being trafficked.

I've yet to hear of NHS staff being trafficked into their job.

Use independents, not agency.

ballettap · 21/04/2025 20:21

OldSkuul · 21/04/2025 20:10

Use independents, not agency.

Again, how do you know? Because they say they're independent and therefore it's their own free will? They're hardly going to tell you otherwise. How do you know there isn't someone forcing them from behind the scenes, whether a pimp or a boyfriend. Most people wouldn't choose to have sex with someone they're not attracted to. And someone who thinks their body can be used by others who couldn't care less if they're entering said body and wouldn't be doing it unless they were getting paid.

Genuine question as I struggle to understand the thought process.

ItGhoul · 21/04/2025 20:27

Your nephew had no business screenshotting and showing you the messages. You still don’t have a clue whether your friend really is OK with this.

If you don’t want to see your friend’s unpleasant husband, don’t. If you don’t want to see your friend either, also don’t; you’re an adult and you can choose who to socialise with (or not) for any reason you like.

I’m amused that you say you don’t like gossip, given that as soon as you heard some, you couldn’t wait to rush to Mumsnet to tell everyone about it, like a Daily Mail article entitled BAN THIS SICK FILTH which then goes on to describe the sick filth in detail over two pages. It’s not like you actually wanted advice as you’d clearly already made up your mind what you think about it; you just wanted to gleefully tell everyone you know a scandal.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 21/04/2025 20:28

How is cycling is outing but this convoluted, highly detailed machination is not?

QueefQueen80s · 21/04/2025 20:29

ballettap · 21/04/2025 20:21

Again, how do you know? Because they say they're independent and therefore it's their own free will? They're hardly going to tell you otherwise. How do you know there isn't someone forcing them from behind the scenes, whether a pimp or a boyfriend. Most people wouldn't choose to have sex with someone they're not attracted to. And someone who thinks their body can be used by others who couldn't care less if they're entering said body and wouldn't be doing it unless they were getting paid.

Genuine question as I struggle to understand the thought process.

Plus most who get into that even if they aren’t trafficked, have a childhood/history of sexual abuse, drug use etc
that poster sounds like a punter.

Hdjdb42 · 21/04/2025 20:30

Well if she doesn't want sex any more, they either end the marriage or he gets it else where. A sex worker is better than someone who's looking for a relationship, because they won't fall in love and it will be discreet. Honestly it's none of your business.

JHound · 21/04/2025 20:36

ballettap · 21/04/2025 20:21

Again, how do you know? Because they say they're independent and therefore it's their own free will? They're hardly going to tell you otherwise. How do you know there isn't someone forcing them from behind the scenes, whether a pimp or a boyfriend. Most people wouldn't choose to have sex with someone they're not attracted to. And someone who thinks their body can be used by others who couldn't care less if they're entering said body and wouldn't be doing it unless they were getting paid.

Genuine question as I struggle to understand the thought process.

People have sex with people for all kinds of reasons and don’t necessarily need to find the person attractive to do it. There any number of reasons people choose to have sex and I don’t think “because I find them attractive” is a superior one.

Didimum · 21/04/2025 20:37

It’s your choice who you socialise with. You don’t need permission.

YouAreAToy · 21/04/2025 20:39

Some of these blokes need to be returned to the sex board. Mumsnet, please take them back.

OldSkuul · 21/04/2025 20:42

ballettap · 21/04/2025 20:21

Again, how do you know? Because they say they're independent and therefore it's their own free will? They're hardly going to tell you otherwise. How do you know there isn't someone forcing them from behind the scenes, whether a pimp or a boyfriend. Most people wouldn't choose to have sex with someone they're not attracted to. And someone who thinks their body can be used by others who couldn't care less if they're entering said body and wouldn't be doing it unless they were getting paid.

Genuine question as I struggle to understand the thought process.

Behind the wonder-gymnastic you applauded at the Olympics there might have been abusive parents who literally starve her and force her to practice hours on end. The nail salon you go to might have a trafficked far-eastern lady giving you a manicure. That dress you're wearing could have been made by an 8 year old on tuppence a day.

I guess most people navigate the world with what they deem reasonable enough care and consideration. You just can't ever be absolutely positive there isn't anyone whose services you use, that isn't enslaved.