Dig licking plates before going into dishwasher - ick or not

[Happyspendingthedayinthegarden]

Have have hosted a lovely Easter BH Monday for all 7 GC, 3 step children, partners & children. We had an Easter egg hunt in garden, had breakfast in local farm shop & walked my lovely little dog around, petted animals etc.

For context I need to say that DSS & DIL are both British, but live in USA.

After a roast dinner I put the plates & general pots & pans down for the dog to lick. My DIL lost the plot saying that was so unhygienic I assured her that they would be going into the dishwasher on a high temperature - about 90c so would be sterilised. I always let the dog pre-wash my plates as consider it's going into the dishwasher at high temp to be sterilised so no problem.

DIL saying she will never let her children eat at my house again & gone-taken her DH & DC off in an huff.

DH has had a text from his son apologising but saying what can he do as has to support his wife. I totally get that. But....

My question is - is it OK to let dog lick out the plates etc when they are going into dishwasher at a high temp? WWUD?

Yeah granny always picks it licks it then flicks it. 😆

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This so funny!

But it what granny does. Humph

if you’re happy to do it, knock yourself out! But please don’t kid yourself that those studies where dogs were in the home is equal to dogs sharing plates - I know those studies and plates were not a factor! You sound a little defensive - (I know nurses who smoke so being a nurse doesn’t mean you’ll do everything correctly health wise and whether the other kids have cleaners in house really isn’t the issue). What’s your end goal? Your DIL sounds a bit dramatic but you can either do battle over this or say we won’t do this for your kids any more, can we leave it to one side and continue visits? I imagine it’s more important to see GC than be right about the dogs and plates?
No one could get me to agree to share a plate with the dog (although I wouldn’t be rude and storm out) and DIL sounds the same, so you won’t convince her to agree with you, but maybe you can come to an understanding where views are respected and each to their own?

This reminds me of a birthday party I attended as a child in the 1980s. A boy was wailing because his hot dog came with ketchup and I watched as one of the mums did an "oh dear, don't worry", took the hot dog off him, licked off the ketchup, and gave it him back. He never flinched. I don't recall him dying either, at least not on that day. Mind you, I recall also watching the father of birthday girl attaching the flex of the record player to the wall socket by wrapping the wires around the plug from a table lamp, as the record player was missing one. And all this in a room full of cigarette smoke. I miss those carefree days!

I love my DGD so much and if I let the dog, who she also loves, lick the plates she would never
eat at my house again and she loves Grandma’s cooking.

Back when we didn’t have to wear seat belts and dogs roamed the streets. You came home when the street lights came on and nobody knew where you had been.

I once saw a child with a Mr Whippy ice cream get too close to a man in a camel hair overcoat, and the mum said, careful darling, you'll get hairs all over your ice cream!

I used to know a lady that fed her daughter like a bird. She would chew up food in her own mouth and pass it on to her daughter, via her mouth.

If you are from the USA, I'd imagine that your hygiene standards are generally more considered, seeing as an unexpected trip to an emergency room could bankrupt you and lose you your house. No wonder the NHS is on it's knees. In my opinion, free at the point of access medical care makes British people more lackadaisical about catching stuff and injuring themselves where a bit of extra carefulness would prevent the need.

It's all well and good saying the dishwasher will kill the dog bum licking germs but appliances don't always work as their specs claim. If everybody gets blasted because it didn't get the plates etc. properly clean, it's the NHS that has to pay for the consequences. Just so you can let the dog lick all your crockery and pans.
Not to mention the relatives may not appreciate you risking their kids health.
It's gross, irresponsible and selfish.

Worse still, they were chewed-up worms!!

Hey that’s natures finest wholesome grub. 🪱

I have given you a laughing emoji by way of a thanks for that comment, however, I'm sitting here ready to vomit into my handbag.

When I were a lass, velociraptors roamed the streets and our seat belts were made of stone!

free at the point of access medical care makes British people more lackadaisical about catching stuff and injuring themselves

Not all of us - I am very risk-adverse, but I try to be sensible too. The thought of allowing myself to become ill simply because it's "free" to get treated is not something I'd considered before...I mean yes, when you can buy a new washing machine for £200 you risk not bothering with Calgon, but with my health I'd sooner not go there to start with.

@Happyspendingthedayinthegarden in theory I get that it should be fine. But the reality is absolutely revolting to me. Like people stubbing out cigarettes on used dinner plates when I was young. Turns me right off - 🤢🤮 - I’d maybe not say something but I’d avoid eating round yours once I found out!

Don't tell me you ingest Calgon!!! 😫

Cloths used for cleaning are regularly boiled for 20+ minutes. I put my dishwashing cloths into the microwave for 3 minutes to sterilise them after every use.

I was brought up in a kitchen on a smallholding with chickens, cats, baby lambs, puppies etc in the kitchen - and often in the bottom of the Aga with the door kept open to keep them warm. I maintain that the dishes that my GC eat off are probably cleaner than those that I ate off & I've lived to be 62 years & counting.

I had a neighbour who did that - if I called in around teatime she'd be there in the armchair, with a tabbard on with food spilt down it, and a plate on her lap covered in gravy & a couple of dog ends.

Sorry, I meant all not any. It's been a long day! The 90 degrees (C) thing is irrelevant anyway, dishwashers don't go up to that temperature. Maybe if the OP autoclaved her plates that would work

None of that has anything to do with the fact that you indulge in a practice most people find revolting. But you're clearly not going to change.

Yeah, it was gross. I remember asking my mum if it was normal. Nope!

put my dishwashing cloths into the microwave for 3 minutes to sterilise them after every use.

Now that I really don't do, as there's no evidence to tell us how long to do it for and if it even works. The thought of steaming out my microwave with germ-filled water from a cleaning sponge is not something I'm quite ready to consider. But I'll allow my dogs to eat off a plate that goes in the dishwasher.

How simple would it be to just scrape the leftovers into the dog bowl without any need for licking? But no, the OP must keep doubling down on this. It's an odd hill to die on.