Dig licking plates before going into dishwasher - ick or not

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Have have hosted a lovely Easter BH Monday for all 7 GC, 3 step children, partners & children. We had an Easter egg hunt in garden, had breakfast in local farm shop & walked my lovely little dog around, petted animals etc.

For context I need to say that DSS & DIL are both British, but live in USA.

After a roast dinner I put the plates & general pots & pans down for the dog to lick. My DIL lost the plot saying that was so unhygienic I assured her that they would be going into the dishwasher on a high temperature - about 90c so would be sterilised. I always let the dog pre-wash my plates as consider it's going into the dishwasher at high temp to be sterilised so no problem.

DIL saying she will never let her children eat at my house again & gone-taken her DH & DC off in an huff.

DH has had a text from his son apologising but saying what can he do as has to support his wife. I totally get that. But....

My question is - is it OK to let dog lick out the plates etc when they are going into dishwasher at a high temp? WWUD?

My husband's grandparents let the dog do this and it almost makes me puke everytime. Absolutely rank.

Has anyone pointed out that most standard dishwashers don’t have a 90 degree (C) wash cycle…? Though they might reach near that in the rinse / dry cycle So these dishes could only have been washed at 60 degrees 🤮

Sadly if a dog licked my face,hands,arms etc I'd be covered in welt like hives so it's a huge no from me & they'd be getting nowhere near my plates & cutlery 😐

No! I don’t use a cloth. A squirt of Ecover,
rubber gloves, hot water, rub,rub,rinse!

I do use kitchen towel to dry though.

DIL has overreacted and flouncing off after being hosted all day is incredibly rude. Her husband sounds like a drip tbh.

However, I have a bigger issue with people licking plates and bowls. Some really do people have appalling table manners.

A dishwasher doesn't sterilise. 90 degrees isn't hot enough to sterilise the plates.

I love my dog but there's no way I'd share my tableware with her. She has her own bowls and she eats out of those. I wouldn't want to eat off anything she's eaten from even if it's been thorough scrubbed. It's just unpleasant.

I also don't give my dog human food: the salt, the onions and the grease in the average roast dinner makes it unsuitable for dogs.

I made an awesome lamb roast yesterday and damn right I licked the plate.

That’s disgusting

Phahaha is this the right thread to announce that (some) horsey ladies wash their horses bits - that’s the metal part of a bridle that goes in the horses mouth ……in the dishwasher too.

Plenty of humans engage in this too 😁

Yes, I did, several times. My dishwasher washers at 70'C on "intensive", but I was just reading on the Finish website that all domestic dishwashers should reach around 82'C on the final rinse on any cycle, to make the contents "safe" [sic].

I also pointed out that the harsh detergents and vigorous cleaning action of the dishwasher also goes a very long way to loosening and removing pathogens too - it's not just the temperature that does the work, the very act of washing crap away (like when hand-washing dishes) is all part of the process.

I won't even share cutlery or a cup with my brother and parents.

I keep my own cutlery and separate cup.

My brother is not very hygienic!

There was a woman on How Clean is Your House? who put all sorts of horse paraphernalia into her her dishwasher...Kim Woodburn looked like she was going to have heart failure when she saw it.

🤮🤮

There was a c4 documentary I think it was on erm paid for ladies. And they washed toys in the dishy.

Gross.

😷

A hot wash at 90 doesn't kill any germs though, that's just not true. And domestic dishwashers don't run at 90 anyway.

I do this, as onions, stuffing & other things not good for dogs.

I maintain that there is no problem with allowing my dog to lick the dishes from residual gravy etc & then putting them in the dishwasher on a high temp.

My mistake was allowing Step Grandchildren who don't normally stay with us (as live abroad & have maids who pack dishwasher etc & rather a new experience for them) were accompanying step GC who often stay & regard packing the dishwasher as their contribution to the meal. It was the GC who normally spend time with us who said 'Oh - <dog name> usually licks the dishes before Granny puts them in the dishwasher', Scraped the residue into the food caddy (to be collected & composted) & put the plates down for the dog to lick That's what they do at my house as well at home-they have a dog & a mother who's a senior nurse in the local hospital.

But DIL blew her top.

I make no apologies - my GC are very healthy & I maintain that my dishes are totally safe for them to eat from. There is a lot of evidence that children brought up in a house with pets are less likely to develop allergies.

I’m reading this thread and I’m going ‘ergh, ergh,ergh’ and a few ‘yuks’!

There’s living with pets and sharing your plates with pets 😅

If you are talking about 90F then I agree.

If you are talking about 90C then we're all doomed.

And the majority on here maintain that's it's gross and you shouldn't do it in front of visitors!

... not to mention it's teaching your grandchildren to live in squalor. Blecchh.

"Granny always [insert gross practice]" is not the endorsement you seem to think it is!