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Living together - mess, noise what’s normal???

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Steffie2 · 18/04/2025 09:29

So I’ve been with my boyfriend 5 years. He is 52 and 3 children. All to same woman but 2 are adults and have own homes and 1 DS who is only 16 and lives with dad 50% of time. I am 42 and have 1 Dd aged 7 who lives with me 90% of time.

Both of us took over our respective family homes when partners left. Both struggled financially of course as they are family houses we bought on 2 incomes initially with exs.

BF sold his house last year and moved in with me to test how we would live together before buying together.

I am really struggling when DSS is here when not in school. He basically stays up all hours gaming when not in school. Weekends I can just about cope with but it’s the entire week at a time when he is off school I hate. He is doing GCSE’s this year so will have basically June to Sept off school - weeks of him being nocturnal basically.

I will have to get up at 6.30 for work every week day and I wfh so no respite in day. My dd will also be in school till summer hols so I’m dreading it. I am already struggling with sleep during Easter as my dd room is next to dss and it affects her and I end up sleeping in there to try settle her. Or alternatively I kick bf out of main bed and me and dd sleep there. Obviously none ideal.

On top of this I find dss very messy. He has turned my old office into a pigsty on weeks he stays. It smells of Bo as he refuses to open window - hates insects. He leaves bowls, plates in room and clothes everywhere. If he showers then clothes just get left in bathroom and wet towel thrown in room. No idea which of his clothes are clean or dirty. I leave my bf to clean up after him. Problem is he doesn’t do it enough. And bf seems to now be joining in let’s just throw our clothes on the floor. The master bedroom floor is covered in bf clothes - dirty or clean is anyone’s guess. There are fitted wardrobes, drawers etc and a big wash basket in master room just for bf and dss clothes. It’s a really nice house I have - well it was.

I am getting so fed up. Yesterday I nicely mentioned bf doing dss dinner dishes in morning before he left for work and he got a bit sulky and defensive but ok. But then in evening when I first had to pick up dss clothes from bathroom floor and put near wash basket for bf to decide if clean or dirty, I then got fed up as bf clothes then ended up in bathroom a few hours later. And still loads of bf clothes all lying about bedroom. I jokingly said can you sort out the floordrobe tomorrow morning when you’re off. He sulked and then went bed. I think he has done it though. I then spent night in dd room with his son gaming till 12.30am and I’m exhausted today and so fed up of it. For context dss is quieter in night when gaming - but I hear him whispering, tapping, floors creaking and doors opening etc as literally it is a stud wall between dd and dss rooms.

Anyone got any advice? I have previously told bf I am nolonger sure I want to buy a house together as not enjoying living together 50% of time. He gets very hurt. He sees it that we will break up if he moves out as between his new job, hobbies and ds we wouldn’t see each other much. I say then that we need to try change things in this house and prove we can live together. He thinks I should compromise more and that I just don’t get teenagers or boys.

For context bf does pay 50% bills and food - not mortgage as house mine. He also does 50% of general household chores and his own and sons washing. We are happy and loving as a couple. Problem is he seems to think a house gets tidy 1 day a week and rest of week you just leave it a tip. And that teenage boys somehow need to be left to do what they want. I totally disagree! I also of course have a dd I run around cleaning up after but I feel like I want to start instilling basic tidiness in her but can’t as dss is a slob and I won’t make it a girls job to be the tidy one.

Also to say my ex husband was a total neat freak and I was the messy one to him! Irony. But it does make me feel like I’m not a neat freak - just kind of normal house proud expecting a reasonable household with rules and structure.

AIBU?
No - expecting a tidy house and dss to be quiet after 10pm weekday nights is normal and bf needs to up his game or move out.
Yes - you have to lower expectations for a teenage boy and busy bf and should compromise.

OP posts:
AlphaRadiationIsHeliumNuclei · 18/04/2025 09:32

Kick him out. Living together isn't working.

Watermill · 18/04/2025 09:36

First comment nails it.

You very sensibly chose to trial living together. The trial could have gone either way. As it stands, it has demonstrated that you aren’t compatible to live together.

He has to move back out as quickly as possible. You have to put your DD and your own needs first.

If he refuses to maintain the relationship without living together, he really isn’t that committed is he? Just let him go and breathe a huge sigh of relief that you get your peaceful home back.

ThatWildMintSloth · 18/04/2025 09:38

You've said that bf is messy too so thats probably where the son gets it from. I think have a conversation with the both of them and tell them to tidy up after themselves!!
As for the gaming, I think its pretty common with gamers. Its the headset, they cant hear how loud they are. I remember when I was younger at home, my siblings would drive me mad with the chat, I think it just seems more amplified in the evenings/night. I do think as you said he's quieter after 10pm then he is trying to be considerate. Again maybe have a conversation about this and try to come up with some solutions together.

thecrispfiend · 18/04/2025 09:42

I’ve been there except with 2 teen boys up all night gaming raising the fridge, eating all meals in their rooms etc it doesn’t get better and they are now in their 20s and still doing it, ex partner wouldn’t tackle it as was worried they would t come to stay if he put rules in place. I chose not to live with him because of this and we did manage to stay together for another 10 years and have maintained a friendship since splitting but there is absolutely no way that would be the case if I’d tried to stay living with them! Your own teens are challenging enough but other people’s is something else!

SeventeenClovesOfGarlic · 18/04/2025 09:42

Does your daughter enjoy having these two unrelated men in her home?
There's no good reason to house these people, the boyfriend is free to act hurt, that's fine. Why not just enjoy dating without the drudgery?
Keep your financial independence and house.

ICantBeDoingWithThat · 18/04/2025 09:43

To answer your question, no, this isn't normal. Living in near squalor isn't conducive to good relationships with anyone. Your partner and his son should shape up or move out.

hididdlyho · 18/04/2025 09:44

He thinks I should compromise more and that I just don’t get teenagers or boys.

Sounds the boyfriend and his son have an attitude problem. Just because they are male it doesn't give them the right to be noisy slobs. There needs to be ground rules, like stepson needs to open his windows for an hour a day to air the room out, shower daily and change clothes. Room needs to be cleaned by boyfriend / son once a week etc. They shouldn't be making you and your daughter put up with their stink just because they are lazy.

Chaseandstatus · 18/04/2025 09:48

This is what teen boys are like ime, they do come out the other side, but I wouldn’t live with a teenager I had not personally created!

DUsername · 18/04/2025 09:48

As a mum of teens yanbu. Mine are pretty nocturnal in the holidays but they are quiet as they know me and their dad are working and up early.

The kind of mess that's normal for me is the odd cup or plate lying around. Not immediately tidying up after themselves in the kitchen. What's going on with your stepson is way over the line.

DUsername · 18/04/2025 09:48

Oh and one of my teens is a boy! He's probably the best at tidying up after himself in the kitchen actually.

LlynTegid · 18/04/2025 09:51

Trial should end, sad of course if your DP is a good man.

BitOutOfPractice · 18/04/2025 09:53

You’ve got a bf problem, not a dss problem.

Notposting · 18/04/2025 09:54

BF sold his house last year and moved in with me to test how we would live together before buying together

Now you know the outcome of the test.

Tell him to move out.

ConnieSlow · 18/04/2025 09:55

I never ever understand why woman make their lives and their kids lives SO miserable just for a man. You had a peaceful, clean and happy child before you decided that you and your boyfriend come first.
and I never understand why women put up with someone else’s shitty child when they don’t have to.
have your relationship if you want, but why live together? Why put up with stuff in your own home when you don’t need to? And why oh why do you need to bring men/males to live with your young daughter when it absolutely does not benefit her in any way?

Jeezitneverends · 18/04/2025 09:58

Chaseandstatus · 18/04/2025 09:48

This is what teen boys are like ime, they do come out the other side, but I wouldn’t live with a teenager I had not personally created!

They’re only like that if they’re allowed to be!

Swampdonkey123 · 18/04/2025 10:01

I haven't voted either way, as the truth is somewhere in the middle. The behaviour is completely normal for a teen, and I don't think expecting complete silence after 10 is reasonable, it does sound like he is trying to keep the noise down. I would expect some effort from your BF though to be teaching his DS to tidy up after himself. It does sound like maybe you aren't compatible to live together. Teenagers are hard work, and it will be that much harder if you don't feel you can tell him when he's being antisocial in the way you would your own DC. The sulking and stropping from your BF would worry me too, as it doesn't sound like he feels he should compromise to make it work.

beetr00 · 18/04/2025 10:05

@Steffie2 it's obvious you don't even like your boyfriend's son.

That's ok, but your living arrangements are not working.

To benefit you and your young daughter, your boyfriend should use the equity from his home, to rent, until his son is independent.

Otherwise, it is highly likely that, your relationship will not survive this tension.

GabriellaMontez · 18/04/2025 10:05

Imagine when they move out and your home is peaceful and tidy again!

Who would choose to live like that...

DonnaSueWeloveyou · 18/04/2025 10:07

You need to kick them out, especially for your daughter’s sake. No way should she be having to put up with that.

The fact your partner sulked when you made a perfectly reasonable request is also not good. Sounds like he’s trying to manipulate you to put up with him & his son by threatening to end the relationship otherwise.

Cavello · 18/04/2025 10:07

Jeezitneverends · 18/04/2025 09:58

They’re only like that if they’re allowed to be!

This, we have 3 DS, 15, 13 & 9. No way in hell would I accept that behaviour. They don't leave their clothes lying around (clean or dirty) or dirty dishes, they game but not all night, they cleanup after themselves and they're in bed for 10:30 - 11. You have a BF problem he is teaching his DS how to behave. He needs to move back out.

dontcryformeargentina · 18/04/2025 10:09

It’s not working. Ask him to move out asap. Whatever he is contributing ( not much by the way, as he eats and uses your house too) isn’t worth it. You have been made a skivvy and it’s affecting your mental health.

Shinyandnew1 · 18/04/2025 10:10

He thinks I should compromise more

No, absolutely not.

You had a lovely tidy quiet house until you moved them in-that isn't far on your daughter.

They needs to move out and then you can have your space back again.

TammyJones · 18/04/2025 10:13

hididdlyho · 18/04/2025 09:44

He thinks I should compromise more and that I just don’t get teenagers or boys.

Sounds the boyfriend and his son have an attitude problem. Just because they are male it doesn't give them the right to be noisy slobs. There needs to be ground rules, like stepson needs to open his windows for an hour a day to air the room out, shower daily and change clothes. Room needs to be cleaned by boyfriend / son once a week etc. They shouldn't be making you and your daughter put up with their stink just because they are lazy.

Edited

Exactly
both my ss have lived with us at times
and also my adult son lived here.

these ground rules would have been in place before moving in
any deviation my dh would have come down on them like a ton of bricks- this isn’t working for your family…

Netcam · 18/04/2025 10:13

As a mum of 2 older teen DS I feel your pain. We do have similar issues with clothes on floor and plates in bedrooms and I do a lot of nagging about it apparently!

DH doesn't do it though, although he is not their dad, but he is messier than me. When we first got together I put down very clear boundaries about what level of mess was acceptable for me and when we finally moved in together after 5 years I continued to maintain those boundaries, which he tries to stick to after 8 years living together, even if he wouldn't have lived like that on his own.

Staying up and keeping others awake is not OK. We have the same issue now with DS2 at 6th form when DS1 comes home from uni.

Basically DS1 has to be quiet when the rest of us need to sleep, DH and I get up at 6.30 for work, DS2 has to get up for 6th form. If he really needs to stay up he can bring his laptop to the kitchen table where nobody can hear him and come up to bed really quietly, but we do not accept him keeping anyone awake.

cestlavielife · 18/04/2025 10:17

It isn't working
Put your dd first
Think how she feels with an unrelated 16 yr old boy and this man in her space
He can move back out you can continue a relationship or not