BMI 26 - access to injections

[HeySnoodie]

I’ve tried to lose weight but struggle. My BMI is 26 with no weight related health issues, everything I’ve read highlights I’m not able to access and pay for injections.

Wow…. After the side effects some people have after using weight loss injections…this is pathetically dangerous advice.

I’ve been on them for 9 months and have been lucky that my side effects haven’t been so bad, but it been reported that people with a lower BMI starting them, can have all sorts of adverse effects.

I can’t find the thread, but just look at all the adverse effects, not saying they are not good for high BMI, as that’s comes with health issues, but why would you want to pump something in your body that you don’t actually need and risk side effects, perhaps always having to take a maintenance dose to keep weight off when maybe you can do it alone without for the amount you want to lose. Try and change your mindset, think how great you would feel, losing what you need to lose with resorting to injections.

I didn’t ask. But read your reply about alcoholism.
The idea that someone can’t get a WLI to get into the healthy range from overweight ( as opposed to obese) makes no sense.

No one starts off as obese. They start as overweight. If we stopped people over eating earlier in life maybe that would be a solution.

And this is why there needs to be a lot of hoop jumping before getting these things.

To be honest you can be obese but not look v fat on a pic - so I would just take an unflattering pic.

Stop encouraging people to lie to medical providers. Please.

There are many people maintaining a BMI of overweight (not obese) who are deeply unhappy and ruled by the constant food noise, internal dialogues of what to eat, what not to eat, dealing with hunger, cravings, binge / restrict cycles so it’s a constant battle in their heads that rules their lives despite ‘only’ being overweight and not obese.

We now have a wonderful opportunity to help those people live a new life where all that stops and they can maintain a healthy weight without having to battle to stay there.

If I could sign a petition to lower the BMI access I would.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/weight_loss_chat/5311717-why-are-you-not-on-injections

Yes, that person is in the category of people who should be able to access weight loss medication, because they are recovering from obesity.

But that's crazy!

I've taken them and had a BMI of 30. I didn't actually feel that big at the time, i felt overweight, but i was feeling the effects of being bigger. After losing some weight I wouldn't have been happy to stop at 26 because I'm short, but 26 could look and feel quite different on someone else. Is it really that big enough to justify WLI? You would have to gain first to get it which is madness since it doesn't work for everyone or you might not tolerate the side effects.

I would try keto and upping steps first.

I started WLI as my BMI was 29 with underlying conditions. I had to submit a video which showed me full body getting onto scales and the weight. Many providers are really cracking down so you can’t cheat the system.
I do think we need better support to help people at risk of obesity. I know I essentially have a food/sugar addiction that I need to recognise and treat as such. The WLI are helping me deal with that as much as lose weight, and quieten the food noise.

New guidelines have been introduced. Yesterday I had to have a video call and show my id and do a live weighing.
my bmi is now 27 . It was 44.
it’s taken over a year to get to this point.
a starting point of 26 is really not what wli should be prescribed for.

It’s so hard to get on the NHS for the medical condition it was created for diabetes ask me how I know

The rules are very strict.

It's not, I've explained why, what aren't you getting?

I have a BMI of 26 and I definitely have moments of thinking it would be good to try the jabs. I think about food a lot and have a hearty appetite - it would be good to switch that off.

I would never actually try and get the jabs though. My issues with weight and food are nowhere near serious enough to justify taking something like that. I'm nearly 50 and I've never been obese so the idea of taking it to stop me getting obese makes no sense. I have zero health problems due to being overweight. I am able to lose it too when I watch my calories.

With all medication there's a risk of side effects and you can only really justify taking that risk if there's a good reason. Being overweight just isn't good enough reason imo.

Have you read about the medication and the risks?

I am on it but because the risk of my weight (BMI 35 and high BP) was greater than the medication risk.

In your position I would not consider the risks were worth it.

I am slowly working towards a BMI of 27 which is where I'd like to maintain.

This medication is hard core and not aimed at those who are only slightly overweight.

Look at Sharon Osbourne, forever wanting an easy weight loss, she looks bloody awful. I had a friend who had a temporary stomach reduction procedure, still drank alcohol like a fish, always moaning about her weight but did fuck all to actually address what she was putting into her body and the calorific value. It’s like the old TV show says You are What you Eat! Sorry, had to say it as I’m annoyed with these Ozempic, weight loss threads.

You’re generally a healthy weight. You don’t need medication with long term side effects. You need a few slight improvements to your diet and regular exercise.

@HeySnoodie , unless you lie you aren’t eligible. The medication acts to regulate blood sugar (it was initially intended for diabetics). Take a look at the Glucose Goddess her ‘hacks’ do the same and you may find them very helpful. If you must take something perhaps consider Berberine.

I just want to say Thankyou to everyone, it’s given me a lot to think about and I will put my big girl pants on and commit to a healthy and safe way of reducing my bmi. I exercise quite a bit, so feel fit bit just need to be lighter.

To be fair the OP has never once said she wants WLI on the NHS. She says in her first post her BMI means she isn't legible for the paid / private prescription.

bmi 41 down from the 50’s
made to pay for the injections
5 years on Metformin compared to 2 years on weight loss injections
new rules coming in that I am going to be weighed when I next go buy next month’s treatment and I really shouldn’t be losing to much weight.

the only people I know picking up prescription on the nhs are male and so not needing HRT…

I have recently been refused to see nhs gynae (probably because they don’t want us bigger people now saying weight management please in retaliation to your problems are caused by weight.)

No newspaper wants my story. Sorry we’re not all picking this up on nhs prescription and sad times when a pre diabetic says this is their life saving medication to someone who for 5 years has had metformin shoved down their neck.

Not on the one I use you don't; lying alone did the trick.

26 is not obese.

Count calories and exercise more for a couple of months and you’ll be on top of it.