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To switch to Raw milk?

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eggybreadyy · 17/04/2025 14:24

What are your thoughts on Raw milk?

With the current hot topic of ultra-processed food, and trying to reduce this. Mainly for healthy reasons. I am considering switching to raw milk.
Upon googling lots of advice why not to do this, especially for children.
I have seen that it can have lots of health benefits if sourced from a reputable raw milk farmer.

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Woodburnerisout · 18/04/2025 10:38

Biffbaff · 17/04/2025 20:50

Surely this milk is pasteurised - you must mean fresh rather than raw.

Nope, she doesn't, it's raw milk, unpasteurised. There's one up the road from me, udder madness

bookworm14 · 18/04/2025 10:43

For God’s sake, don’t be ridiculous. This UPF thing is becoming more cult-like by the day.

Ladyzfactor · 18/04/2025 11:06

Look up images of bovine tuberculosis of the spine in humans. There are no health benefits to drinking raw milk. The only thing you'll get from drinking raw milk is a bright shiny Darwin award.

Almostwelsh · 18/04/2025 12:09

If you've been vaccinated against TB is it still a risk to drink raw milk from a TB perspective? I still wouldn't drink it because of things like ecoli tho.

ItGhoul · 18/04/2025 14:49

Almostwelsh · 18/04/2025 12:09

If you've been vaccinated against TB is it still a risk to drink raw milk from a TB perspective? I still wouldn't drink it because of things like ecoli tho.

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It’s only about 70% effective and only against specific forms of TB. Against some forms it’s much less effective.

RuleWithAWoodenFoot · 18/04/2025 14:52

Have you been to a milking parlour? Have you seen how much shit there is flying about?

Overhaul54 · 18/04/2025 14:55

Loveduppenguin · 17/04/2025 14:36

I’m from Ireland and my cousins had a farm and they drank (and still do) straight from their tank, I did too when I stayed there. BUT they know their cattle, knew what tests, vaccinations they had etc they knew the tank, machinery was cleaned etc so they trusted that.

I grew up on raw milk. I had to give up milk when I moved out of home. I buy raw milk from the farmers market now. They only sell it when the know the cows haven’t had meds etc. It’s worlds apart.

I can’t bear pasteurised milk. It’s so grim if it’s even a bit off. Raw milk doesn’t go bad in the same way.

Overhaul54 · 18/04/2025 14:58

BeMintFatball · 17/04/2025 19:05

Spectacularly bad idea. Dd and her partner went to a cow cuddling experience. As bat shit crazy as it sounds.

Farmer offered a taste of raw milk. Dd took a sip and got away with it. Her partner didn’t want to offend the farmer and drank the whole lot. He was very ill. Diarrhoea

Don’t do it

Yeah it’s rich and full of bacteria your tummy isn’t used to. That’s what will give you the runs. You get used to it pretty quickly though.

Genevieva · 18/04/2025 14:59

I sometimes buy raw milk from a local organic farm, but I think you get most of the benefits from having milk that gas not been homogenised. You can still get that delivered to your door on glass bottles.

BottleBlondeMachiavelli · 18/04/2025 14:59

There has been a woman driving around the Cotswolds asking for places to buy raw milk. Apparently very persistently because she was being discussed by several people who encountered her.

All the farmers and country people talking about it thought she was suicidal level reckless. If they think it’s too “natural” to contemplate, then it definitely is, even if you don’t believe the science.

rainbow231 · 18/04/2025 17:35

The venom on this thread is a bit bonkers!

Do people know that Parmesan cheese is raw dairy? Raw milk is sold at various farms all round the country, at farmers markets, even raw dairy at the supermarkets these days (Isigny brand, all Parmesan and many other cheeses). As long as the farm is trustworthy there are no problems, and many health benefits.

OP, I have organic raw milk delivered monthly, have done for years, never had a problem and we’re all much healthier for it. And yes I do think that’s better than milk from cows given drugs to change their digestive systems (bovaer - what could possibly go wrong…)

Assume I’ll get a pasting now so probably won’t be back!

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 18/04/2025 17:40

rainbow231 · 18/04/2025 17:35

The venom on this thread is a bit bonkers!

Do people know that Parmesan cheese is raw dairy? Raw milk is sold at various farms all round the country, at farmers markets, even raw dairy at the supermarkets these days (Isigny brand, all Parmesan and many other cheeses). As long as the farm is trustworthy there are no problems, and many health benefits.

OP, I have organic raw milk delivered monthly, have done for years, never had a problem and we’re all much healthier for it. And yes I do think that’s better than milk from cows given drugs to change their digestive systems (bovaer - what could possibly go wrong…)

Assume I’ll get a pasting now so probably won’t be back!

Cheese is different because it's processed and aged and has salt in it. As explained many, many times, UK cows' milk is not full of drugs.

Please could somebody actually explain what these wonderful health benefits are? People keep asserting this and running away.

Sleepinggreyhounds · 18/04/2025 17:49

drspouse · 17/04/2025 20:06

This isn't true. It's BETTER at protecting from other types of TB which can actually be harmful but it's good on pulmonary TB.

Childhood vaccination is highly variable at protecting adults against pulmonary TB - you certainly wouldn't want to rely on it (and protection is particularly poor in low income countries)

Coldfeetandnose · 18/04/2025 17:54

I buy raw milk from a local farmer, they have a refrigerated milk machine. You can bring your own bottle and there's instructions on the machine that you need to boil it and let it cool before drinking it/storing it in the fridge. Tastes great!

OrangeSlices998 · 18/04/2025 18:00

Pasteurisation doesn’t affect the health benefits of milk. It’s heating it! Baffled by people wanting to take the risk for no benefit.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 18/04/2025 18:22

Sleepinggreyhounds · 18/04/2025 17:49

Childhood vaccination is highly variable at protecting adults against pulmonary TB - you certainly wouldn't want to rely on it (and protection is particularly poor in low income countries)

Catching TB for real aged 4 and recovering from it seems to be quite effective in my (personal) experience, as I've been exposed multiple times since, still have immunity on blood test and do not have any signs of latent disease on x ray.

Can't recommend it as a 'more natural' strategy to make drinking raw milk a good idea - and I don't suppose that bacillary dysentery is a bundle of laughs, either.

TonTonMacoute · 18/04/2025 18:32

Just drink better milk. There is a massive difference between ordinary supermarket milk and pasteurised milk from a good dairy farm.

TonTonMacoute · 18/04/2025 18:36

Coldfeetandnose · 18/04/2025 17:54

I buy raw milk from a local farmer, they have a refrigerated milk machine. You can bring your own bottle and there's instructions on the machine that you need to boil it and let it cool before drinking it/storing it in the fridge. Tastes great!

So you buy raw milk, take it home and basically pasteurise it yourself!? 🤔

Fluffyyellowball · 18/04/2025 19:05

Daughter is a vet. She went on a farm visit and the farmer made her a cup of coffee which she drank, not realising he had used raw milk in it.
She caught cryptosporidiosis and was desperately ill. She still has stomach issues now.
You would have to be a thick idiot to drink raw milk. There are zero health benefits to it. Don't believe all the TikTok woo, it's utter nonsense.

gertrudebiggles · 18/04/2025 19:13

Visited a relative on their farm once. I didn't realise the milk on the table was raw. I then developed the WORST stomach bug of my life. In bed for a week. Never bloody again

gertrudebiggles · 18/04/2025 19:15

Oh and anyone who drinks raw should have a little trip to a dairy farm to see how (un)hygienic it is. Guys, there's literally shit on their udders. They're cleaned with a wet rag very quickly before the milking machine is put on.
Pass.

Believeitornot · 18/04/2025 19:16

Pasteurised milk is not ultra processed. Honestly.

wonderstuff · 18/04/2025 19:26

I think raw milk bought legally from an organic farm is a bit different to being given it at a farm who aren’t allowed to sell it. There’s regulations in the uk to make it as safe as possible. I presume the health benefits are the bacteria that pasturing kills? We have a local farm that sells raw milk, we got some for a while, but it was a bit of a faff to drive out too! I’ve not heard of anyone becoming seriously ill from raw milk from licensed dairy.

FunExpert · 18/04/2025 19:27

switched to raw and never went back 😫

MrsFinkelstein · 18/04/2025 19:28

Coldfeetandnose · 18/04/2025 17:54

I buy raw milk from a local farmer, they have a refrigerated milk machine. You can bring your own bottle and there's instructions on the machine that you need to boil it and let it cool before drinking it/storing it in the fridge. Tastes great!

They're basically telling you to pasteurise it. That's what the boiling and rapid cooling is. Pasteurisation.

They're selling you raw milk and telling you to pasteurise it.