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To end relationship over female friend?

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Oneoffonesiepop · 17/04/2025 05:47

Long story short, I have a real issue with one of my partners female friends.
He does have others who don't bother me, so this isn't simply an irrational jealousy (although for full transparency, he has cheated in the past. We have worked on things to rebuild trust and move forward, but there is probably still an underlying layer of distrust and insecurity).
Anyway, this specific friend, in my opinion, oversteps boundaries, which makes me very uncomfortable - and on top of that, I feel my partner isn't doing enough to assert any. Currently she lives 3 hours away so we rarely see her, however we were out for food and drinks about 2 years ago and bumped into her as she was back visiting family, she ran over to him from behind, wrapped her arms around him and shoved her tongue down his ear. I was pretty taken back because, well... What the fuck? We're all late 30s. She's married with 3 young children.
That night she proceeded to tell me how she used to be partners favourite, that I'll 'never change him', and other bizarre things that I simply could not imagine saying to a male friend's partner.
For context I have male friend's and aside from the odd hug on greeting, we don't touch each other at all. She sat next to him the whole night and couldn't keep her hands off him. I felt like the third wheel.
When we left that night I confronted him, said how uncomfortable I felt and asked if there was some history between them that I'm not privvy to, which he denied and told me I've got it all wrong, she meant nothing by it. Generally quite dismissive.
Since then if ever her name pops up on his phone I see red. He is aware how I feel but continues to keep in touch with her.
I know I will probably be told, they were friends before you etc, and that I cannot enforce him ending their friendship. I agree. I cannot and should not enforce it. However, if the shoe was on the other foot and a male friend was inappropriate with me like that, I would absolutely tell them how disrespectful their behaviour came across and I would naturally distance myself from the friendship.
Partner has agreed not to see this friend 121, but he is still in regular contact via messages.
Recently my need for answers got the better of me and I snooped on his phone (please be kind).
She seems to be the one insisting all of the conversations, and she messages him random pictures of herself - nothing provocative, but her with a facemask on or a glass of wine.
She often puts herself down, saying how much weight she's gained etc. I find it odd how often she brings up her personal appearance and it feels as though she's looking for validation from DP.
The most recent message involved DP telling her that he'd recently bought a holiday home, and her first response was 'the two of us should go'.
In his defence he did not reply to that part of the message, and just continued the conversation in another direction (general chit chat).
I am rarely mentioned in any messages at all, although we have been together 3 years and are due to be moving in together soon. She never asks about me, she seems to often be trying to suggest ways she can get him on her own, and frequently attempting to get affirmations from DP.
I am really starting to get quite upset by all of this. On the one hand, he does keep the chat light-hearted and I don't feel like he engages in her inappropriate behaviour, however on the other hand he also hadn't asserted any boundaries and I am concerned how she would be with him if I wasn't there.
I'm not really sure how to proceed - I haven't told him I looked at the messages as it will likely cause a huge blow up, but I also cannot shake this gut feeling that something is off about the whole thing, and it's making me feel quite anxious now about us moving in together. Is she going to be that buzzing fly around us for the rest of our lives together? She is planning to move back to our area this year so I anticipate this will ramp up 500% when she does. We share a lot of the same friends so likely will be more tongue-in-the-ear bump intos. Plus she will be on his case to see him regularly I suspect.
Please be kind, as I'm not sleeping well because of this. I do struggle with anxiety and this is something I'm ruminating on a lot.
AIBU?

OP posts:
HobbyHorse30 · 17/04/2025 11:32

"I have an issue with one of my partner's female friends"

You have an issue with your partner, OP. If he wasn't already a cheat, and had set boundaries and conducted himself in a way which didn't lead you to feel the need to check his phone (why are you even contemplating moving in with someone whose behaviour leads you to feel the need to check their phone?) then nothing this woman does would be a problem in your relationship because he'd either have set boundaries or removed himself from a problematic situation. Honestly, why would you settle for this? She is not the problem in your relationship, he is. (Whether her behaviour is problematic in itself is another conversation, but in your relationship it's his behaviour that's the issue)

UnderHisEeyore · 17/04/2025 11:37

Agree she is not the problem here - she is playing up to it, sure, she may well be enjoying that he gives her so much attention so openly and it makes her feel as if she is the priority because he "must really like her" to risk his relationship. So, yes she is getting kicks from it.

But you are not in a relationship with her. He is your concern. He is trying to keep her fawning on him and make you feel small at the same time. Men know when they do this, it is manipulation pure and simple, showing you what he could have and how reasonable he must be to have such a "close" female friend. He has shown he has no boundaries and is willing to risk you for her. Let him have her and find someone who respects you and is adult enough to settle down fully, without a desperate harpy hanging around in the wings.

Oneoffonesiepop · 17/04/2025 11:46

I have sent him a message saying I have concerns about things, that she has overstepped the mark numerous times and that I feel he has not set appropriate boundaries or put a stop to the behaviour.
My heart is racing, I get so incredibly anxious in these situations.
With colleagues and friends I am assertive and confident, but in this situation I feel sick.

OP posts:
JudasTree · 17/04/2025 12:00

Oneoffonesiepop · 17/04/2025 11:46

I have sent him a message saying I have concerns about things, that she has overstepped the mark numerous times and that I feel he has not set appropriate boundaries or put a stop to the behaviour.
My heart is racing, I get so incredibly anxious in these situations.
With colleagues and friends I am assertive and confident, but in this situation I feel sick.

Why this is the case is what you should be focusing on, not the friend. Why aren’t you assertive and able to freely communicate your needs in your relationship, if you can do it everywhere else in your life?

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 17/04/2025 12:01

Well done. You are better off on your own than in a relationship with someone who makes you feel anxious and insecure.

QueefQueen80s · 17/04/2025 12:06

Normally I’m very pro people having opposite sex friends and to not have to lose touch with previous friendships for a partner. I think some can be very possessive and controlling.
In your case though it’s another level, she clearly fancies him and is being too much. I strongly suspect he has shown interest in her previously

Oneoffonesiepop · 17/04/2025 13:03

He has said I'm reading things out of context and overreacting/finding reasons to be anxious.

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Imbusytodaysorry · 17/04/2025 15:36

Oneoffonesiepop · 17/04/2025 13:03

He has said I'm reading things out of context and overreacting/finding reasons to be anxious.

Properly gaslighting .
Not listen to your feelings and turning it ok
you as being the problem .

You can do better .
You shouldnt be nervous to talk to someone whom you have been with for 3 years and plan a future with .

Oneoffonesiepop · 17/04/2025 15:56

Imbusytodaysorry · 17/04/2025 15:36

Properly gaslighting .
Not listen to your feelings and turning it ok
you as being the problem .

You can do better .
You shouldnt be nervous to talk to someone whom you have been with for 3 years and plan a future with .

Yep. He's now accusing me of staging this argument because he has plans to go out and watch the football tonight.
So he really respects my feelings and concerns.

OP posts:
Humpsr · 17/04/2025 15:59

Imbusytodaysorry · 17/04/2025 15:36

Properly gaslighting .
Not listen to your feelings and turning it ok
you as being the problem .

You can do better .
You shouldnt be nervous to talk to someone whom you have been with for 3 years and plan a future with .

This.
You would be mad to be moving in with him.

Oneoffonesiepop · 17/04/2025 16:04

Humpsr · 17/04/2025 15:59

This.
You would be mad to be moving in with him.

I do appreciate your bluntness. I have a good friend who near on spat her drink out (or threw it at it me!) when I mentioned we were planning to discuss him moving in.
I'm sad. For the last couple of years of energy and effort I have expended, for wanting to see the best in him, for being patient and forgiving and understanding and downright foolish.
I'm sad for the future I wanted and hoped for.
What a waste of time.
It does really help having this as a sounding board, so forgive my ramblings. It saves me messaging him instead, justifying, begging and pleading like the pathetic idiot I've become.

OP posts:
Dogaredabomb · 17/04/2025 16:55

Oneoffonesiepop · 17/04/2025 13:03

He has said I'm reading things out of context and overreacting/finding reasons to be anxious.

He's a dick who wants you to feel 'less than'. Do you have kids or a house together?

Dogaredabomb · 17/04/2025 16:57

Oneoffonesiepop · 17/04/2025 16:04

I do appreciate your bluntness. I have a good friend who near on spat her drink out (or threw it at it me!) when I mentioned we were planning to discuss him moving in.
I'm sad. For the last couple of years of energy and effort I have expended, for wanting to see the best in him, for being patient and forgiving and understanding and downright foolish.
I'm sad for the future I wanted and hoped for.
What a waste of time.
It does really help having this as a sounding board, so forgive my ramblings. It saves me messaging him instead, justifying, begging and pleading like the pathetic idiot I've become.

We've all been there, don't waste any more time on this jerk.

huggiebears · 17/04/2025 17:04

I wouldn’t put up with it, he’d rather get an ego boost at the cost of crushing yours. Yuk

HamptonPlace · 17/04/2025 17:32

Elasticatedtrousers · 17/04/2025 06:21

You’ve been together just three years and he’s already cheated.

He clearly doesn’t ‘fancy’ this one enough to respond in a way she’d like, but his boundaries are poor if he’s continuing such frequent contact when you’ve said it makes you uncomfortable. Sounds like the work you say he’s done is minimal.

I wouldn’t be continuing this relationship.

Well doesn't that sometimes depend on when said liaisons occurred, after they'd just met and not 100% committed necessarily, or different views on where relationship was at? As opposed to last month say..

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 17/04/2025 22:38

Oneoffonesiepop · 17/04/2025 13:03

He has said I'm reading things out of context and overreacting/finding reasons to be anxious.

Oh course he did. I think you’re starting to see through him.

healthybychristmas · 17/04/2025 22:53

You should have dumped him as soon as you discovered he was unfaithful. You should also have dumped him after Ear Gate. The very last thing you should do is move in with this disrespectful man. You deserve so much better than this.

sl0th · 18/04/2025 03:10

Agix · 17/04/2025 06:52

He has done something wrong by not telling this woman to stop suggesting private holidays away together.

She can do what she wants. She's nothing to do with your OP. Your main concern is how your parter is acting.

Sounds to me like he's keeping her as an option. He doesn't want to put her off or tell her to stop, incase he does want to take her up on it some time.

This was my immediate thought, he's not currently doing anything but is keeping her as a back up and likes the attention.

OP, with him having form for cheating, I'd be worried when she moves back to the area, she obviously likes him and is handsy, will he resist temptation?

Gonk123 · 18/04/2025 05:48

Horrid behaviour, you are worthy of more.

Danglinglights · 18/04/2025 06:01

Three years into a relationship and cheating isn’t a good sign. You’re not married or living together. Perfect opportunity to get rid of this man, and his odd tongue female friend.

You can do better.

I don’t think blind trust is ever fully regained with a cheater, you are bound to feel anxious. It’s not a way to live. You will always wonder, always be tempted to go through his phone.

Step away whilst you can OP.

HomeTheatreSystem · 18/04/2025 06:30

You would think, wouldn't you, that after cheating on you, and you taking him back, that out of genuine remorse for the pain he caused, he would not engage in any behaviour that even gave the appearance of being inappropriate, much less was inappropriate (ie allowing her to snuggle up to him). He is the problem, not her. Going forwards, it really depends on what you want for yourself.

Workhardcryharder · 18/04/2025 06:38

Dogaredabomb · 17/04/2025 06:12

I think it's obvious that she fancies him and he likes the boost. The horrible thing is that he doesn't care that her behaviour is so gross, you're not imagining that, it's ott. I'd have looked at his phone too. I think you should ltb because he doesn't care that her behaviour upsets you.

It’s not “obvious” at all. They have clearly known each other a while so she is comfortable with him, and a bit quirky. That doesn’t mean she wants to shag him.

Policing your boyfriend’s friends is a slippery slope. One that I wouldn’t start now.

Dogaredabomb · 18/04/2025 06:45

Workhardcryharder · 18/04/2025 06:38

It’s not “obvious” at all. They have clearly known each other a while so she is comfortable with him, and a bit quirky. That doesn’t mean she wants to shag him.

Policing your boyfriend’s friends is a slippery slope. One that I wouldn’t start now.

She stuck her tongue in his ear.

Workhardcryharder · 18/04/2025 06:49

Dogaredabomb · 18/04/2025 06:45

She stuck her tongue in his ear.

Have you never had any strange friends..?

That screams “weird” not “yeah this is super sexual”

Theextraordinaryisintheordinary · 18/04/2025 06:52

I hear what you’re saying but he’s managing it well isn't he? You don’t have anything to worry about. Sounds like you can trust him. She sounds a bit OTT but leave that to him to deal with. He’s been dealing with it well for years now. You’re the one he wants to be with. Let her do her and be confident in your relationship.