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Sunbed Shock

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SansaStark90 · 16/04/2025 17:09

I’ve been really stupid and gone on the sunbed for twenty minutes and the burns I’ve got - I’ve never seen skin as red. I’ve got like indents to my skin as though I’ve woken to stretch marks on my chest. Will these disappear? I’m in agony. I’ve never burnt and so didn’t know it could cause this kind of pain. I’m shaking shivering. I did this yesterday. Can someone reassure my health anxiety that these indents will all calm down?

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Totallymessed · 17/04/2025 22:24

SansaStark90 · 17/04/2025 20:38

I did understand when he said no petroleum jelly. See guys, I’m learning. Anyone a game of thrones fan? Hence the name. I’m a slow learner. It’s true. But I do learn. Was Sansa starts iconic quote to me. I do learn the hard way.

Right im putting the phone down and trying to give my head a wobble as I do feel a little delirious. Im not the best on no sleep. So zero sleep for two nights and immense pain.

I hope the pain eases up soon OP, this all sounds horrendous.

Totallymessed · 17/04/2025 22:26

SansaStark90 · 17/04/2025 20:38

I did understand when he said no petroleum jelly. See guys, I’m learning. Anyone a game of thrones fan? Hence the name. I’m a slow learner. It’s true. But I do learn. Was Sansa starts iconic quote to me. I do learn the hard way.

Right im putting the phone down and trying to give my head a wobble as I do feel a little delirious. Im not the best on no sleep. So zero sleep for two nights and immense pain.

And please don't feel you can't go back to A&E if you think you need to. Doctors are not infallible.

Firsttimecommentor · 17/04/2025 22:43

SansaStark90 · 16/04/2025 17:09

I’ve been really stupid and gone on the sunbed for twenty minutes and the burns I’ve got - I’ve never seen skin as red. I’ve got like indents to my skin as though I’ve woken to stretch marks on my chest. Will these disappear? I’m in agony. I’ve never burnt and so didn’t know it could cause this kind of pain. I’m shaking shivering. I did this yesterday. Can someone reassure my health anxiety that these indents will all calm down?

Sounds painful. I’ve had sunstroke before and what they suggest is to have a luke warm shower and then stand in the shower and let the water drip off you so you’re pretty much dry. I’m sure it’s supposed to lower the body temp. X

RosesAndHellebores · 17/04/2025 23:13

Has nobody suggested you take some diaralyte for rehydration. I'd have thought that would be helpful, along with the codeine for the pain and possibly a cool fan. Probably 48 hours resting in/on the bed.

Are you actually blistering or is it peeling bubbles.

It sounds most unpleasant and I can only imagine the discomfort having only burnt my shoulders or back previously.

You shoukd have had better medical care but I also think this is an example of when the NHS should levy a charge.

I am half Jewish (Ashkenazi mainly). Brown eyed but brown rather than dark hair and fair skinned. But I go very brown, very easily.

Xwx1010 · 17/04/2025 23:16

@SansaStark90 PURE ALOE VERA GEL.
you can get it from boots/superdrug etc. this will help massively - creams will be full of fragrances etc. AG best thing you can use, avoid it on broken skin. it is antibacterial as well as cooling & hydrating.

electrolytes for rehydration too x

Theextraordinaryisintheordinary · 17/04/2025 23:26

Pls don’t go on them. You’ll regret it when you’re older. Hope you feel better soon. Put it down to a lesson in in life. I went on them as a teenager/early 20s and have had skin cancer. They shouldn’t be allowed.

CheeseAndHamToastieAndCrisps · 17/04/2025 23:31

Cool baths/showers and a plain moisturiser like aqueous cream can help soothe your skin.

Aqueous should only be used as a soap, not a moisturiser.

CosyFanTucci · 17/04/2025 23:36

Xwx1010 · 17/04/2025 23:16

@SansaStark90 PURE ALOE VERA GEL.
you can get it from boots/superdrug etc. this will help massively - creams will be full of fragrances etc. AG best thing you can use, avoid it on broken skin. it is antibacterial as well as cooling & hydrating.

electrolytes for rehydration too x

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This. Apply every few hours. Will cool and soothe the skin. You've damaged your skin very badly and need to ensure it heals properly.

Xwx1010 · 17/04/2025 23:41

Reading previous posts - OP - NO CREAMS!!! too heavy and Fragrances/too many ingredients will irritate. Skin needs to breathe and be clean/ hydrated, you need a GEL.

Glokkey · 17/04/2025 23:42

BloominNora · 17/04/2025 22:22

Except that no-one knows how many of those 204 (or any of the people that get it but don't die) have actually used sunbeds. It is only one of many factors, including genetics with the biggest risk factor being exposure to the sun (whether you get burned or not), which people can't avoid any more than they can avoid roads making the comparison to RTAs perfectly valid! Not to mention most people who use sunbeds also tend to sunbathe a lot which also increases risk factors.

I know four people who've had melanomas- none of them ever used sunbeds!

The fact that UV light is categorised as a class 1 carcinogen by WHO is irrelavant to the risk levels. There are over 120 things on that list including tap water (because of natural arsenic levels and the risk of long term injestion), red and processed meats, the contraceptive pill and diesel engine fumes.

Yes - sunbeds are a choice (not one I would do by the way - I only have to be in the sun for 10 minutes without factor 50 on and I burn!) but it is a risk people can choose to take, in the same way they can choose to drink alcohol, smoke, take the pill and eat bacon knowing that all of those things could 'potentially' increase their chance of developing cancer.

I fully agree with being clear about risks and making sure people have the right information to make informed choices. But that means being clear about just how significant or not those risks are and not using hyperbole and over inflated statistics without context to spread fear.

You came on a thread where someone, who said they had health anxiety, was in pain and seeking advice, stated made up numbers and over dramatised the risk of metastasis.

Obesity and being overweight are also classed as a preventable cause of cancer and come with double the risk of cancer that UV radiation does - but I doubt you go posting on the weightloss board in the same way.

Being a debate lord who wants to minimise the negative effects of subbed is certainly an interesting choice.

sykadelic · 17/04/2025 23:55

SansaStark90 · 17/04/2025 19:57

Thank you! I mean I’ve somehow managed to feel doubly stupid for following this advice but when the receptionist said that her daughter used them on holiday and a pp recommended it, I thought usually people who live in hot countries have the best remedies so followed this advice.

Im going to go back to a&e.

Im Australian, we do tomatoes too. I remember mum doing it when my sister fell into hot bath. All over burns.

CheeseAndHamToastieAndCrisps · 18/04/2025 00:05

Burns are measured through skin loss, not redness. No one can say you’ve got
‘second degree burns’, that terminology isn’t even used in the UK. It’s all about the skin loss to assess depth and size. Either way, please go back.

Booboobagins · 18/04/2025 00:19

Eat loads of tomatoes. Put aloe vera and/or olive oil all over your skin. Drink plenty of fluids - if you have hydrating salts add them to your water. Keep warm - and dock and bay towel may be good if you have one. It keeps off the chill without overheating you.

Call 111. You have 2nd degree burns.

Good luck.

The shop should be reported tbh but you've enough on without doing that right now.

OssieShowman · 18/04/2025 00:36

Sunbeds are illegal in Australia. Very good reason -melanoma.

Codlingmoths · 18/04/2025 00:50

Op, when better you should take your photos to the sun bed place because honestly it was their responsibility to warn and monitor. They’ve been grossly negligent. These things are illegal in Australia because of the cancer risk.
the reason this is such a big deal burn wise is because it’s so much of your skin. Your skin is your body’s biggest organ, and it regulates a lot of your temperature etc. Now a lot of it is damaged, so your body is both injured and the rest of it is struggling to manage without your skin doing its job. If you had the same burn on a few square inches the rest of you would be fine. I’m sorry you’ve been fobbed off by Doctors. If your temp gets worse or any sign of infection in the burn go straight to A&E.

TheFormidableMrsC · 18/04/2025 01:41

Codlingmoths · 18/04/2025 00:50

Op, when better you should take your photos to the sun bed place because honestly it was their responsibility to warn and monitor. They’ve been grossly negligent. These things are illegal in Australia because of the cancer risk.
the reason this is such a big deal burn wise is because it’s so much of your skin. Your skin is your body’s biggest organ, and it regulates a lot of your temperature etc. Now a lot of it is damaged, so your body is both injured and the rest of it is struggling to manage without your skin doing its job. If you had the same burn on a few square inches the rest of you would be fine. I’m sorry you’ve been fobbed off by Doctors. If your temp gets worse or any sign of infection in the burn go straight to A&E.

She’s been to A&E. Doctor couldn’t understand her so he gave her codeine and sent her home. She said she’s going back.

Nat6999 · 18/04/2025 01:50

Germaloids pile cream, it contains lidocaine which will at least numb the pain & the other ingredients are anti inflammatory which should help with the redness & swelling.

abs12 · 18/04/2025 02:01

Aloe vera gel. We can't keep saying it enough. If you can find a plant, even better.

But bloody hell I hope you're feeling better in the morning.

abs12 · 18/04/2025 02:25

MrsSlocombesCat · 17/04/2025 12:37

I got a melanoma on my hand from sitting in a pub garden. On one single occasion. We were sitting under a parasol but my right arm was exposed and got burnt. A mole appeared on my right hand, I noticed it but wasn't sure if it had always been there and I had just noticed it because it had gone a funny colour. But I found a picture of me the year before where I was holding a bottle of Oasis in my right hand and there was no mole. Two doctors said it was fine before I was finally referred, and luckily after initial removal confirmed it was malignant I had to have a wide excision and skin graft to make sure they had got it all. So in the end I was fine but I couldn't believe one sunburn experience had given me cancer. Fwiw mixing some aloe Vera gel with Ibuprofen gel is really good for sunburn.

Please don't be hard on yourself though. Remember some have higher risk factors than others and melanoma can develop anywhere on the skin, especially in areas with little to no sun exposure, as a result of sun exposure elsewhere. I think you're blessed you persisted and caught it early. Now you can keep yourself safe through regular checks and care in the sun, as we should all do 🙏

bfc1980 · 18/04/2025 02:27

You'll eventually recover from this. But your biggest threat is malignant melanoma. It could take 10, 20 years to develop so you need to be extra vigilant of any changes to moles, new moles appearing or any other changes to your skin during that time. Visible changes to moles can be quite gradual so it may be difficult to notice. Take photos of all existing moles to compare later down the line or even better go for a skin check and have them all photographed.

Many British people don't think about melanoma as being a threat to them but trust me it is. My 12 year old son had to have the top part of his ear cut off due to it (stage 0 or in situ) and I had to have a 3in x 2in oval shaped part of my calf cut off (stage 2) and then at my next skin check, some of my shin cut off (stage 0). All this within the space of 4 months.

Stage 0, 1 and 2 are fairly simple to treat with surgery.
Stage 3 and 4 though, if it gets this far, life is not easy.

  • Stage 0 (In Situ): 99.9% 5-year survival.
  • Stage I: 89-95% 5-year survival.
  • Stage II: 45-79% 5-year survival.
  • Stage III: 24-70% 5-year survival.
  • Stage IV: 7-19% 5-year survival.
bfc1980 · 18/04/2025 02:56

BloominNora · 17/04/2025 13:00

This is so dramatic and also incorrect.

The misunderstanding of these types of statistics is a real bug bear of mine (and I use examples of it and how small risks are hyped up with scary statistics - particularly in the press - in some training that I have developed around understanding data)

Melanoma risk is 2.44% (1 in 41 women in the UK).

Use of sunbeds increases the risk by between 16% and 25% - but the statistics for this don't differentiate between how often the sunbed is used so will include heavy users as well as those who use it once.

For women who first use a sunbed under the age of 35 risk increases by 59%.

What that means in reality is that the general risk increases to 3.05% (1 in 33) or for women who first use a sunbed before the age of 35 it's 3.88% (1 in 26)

It sounds a lot, but when you take into account that this is a lifetime risk, the peak age for diagnosis is in those over 80 and the survival rate is 87.4% it really is not a huge risk.

The risk of actually dying from Melanoma is just 0.489% (1 in 204)

For context, the risk of getting into a serious road traffic accident and being killed or seriously injured is 3.44% (1 in 29) - higher than the melanoma risk.

So please can people stop quoting inflated statistics and making terrifying claims about the risks of melanoma! No wonder people have such health anxiety about things these days!

Your post which seems to play down the risk of melanoma is extremely dangerous and quite frankly stupid.
NOBODY SHOULD LISTN TO YOU!

The overall survival rate is around 94% which is relatively high. However that's only because it's the easiest cancer to detect at it's early stages. Changes to moles etc that are visible. Once it's at stage 3 or 4, it spreads rapidly and is difficult to treat. Even at stage 2, the wide area excision can be large and even with skin grafts, you're still left with scars.

These are what I'm left with after being diagnosed with stage 2 melanoma and then stage 0 in a different place.

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abs12 · 18/04/2025 02:57

BloominNora · 17/04/2025 13:00

This is so dramatic and also incorrect.

The misunderstanding of these types of statistics is a real bug bear of mine (and I use examples of it and how small risks are hyped up with scary statistics - particularly in the press - in some training that I have developed around understanding data)

Melanoma risk is 2.44% (1 in 41 women in the UK).

Use of sunbeds increases the risk by between 16% and 25% - but the statistics for this don't differentiate between how often the sunbed is used so will include heavy users as well as those who use it once.

For women who first use a sunbed under the age of 35 risk increases by 59%.

What that means in reality is that the general risk increases to 3.05% (1 in 33) or for women who first use a sunbed before the age of 35 it's 3.88% (1 in 26)

It sounds a lot, but when you take into account that this is a lifetime risk, the peak age for diagnosis is in those over 80 and the survival rate is 87.4% it really is not a huge risk.

The risk of actually dying from Melanoma is just 0.489% (1 in 204)

For context, the risk of getting into a serious road traffic accident and being killed or seriously injured is 3.44% (1 in 29) - higher than the melanoma risk.

So please can people stop quoting inflated statistics and making terrifying claims about the risks of melanoma! No wonder people have such health anxiety about things these days!

@bloominnora Stop. Anyone can copy and paste Google stats, not to mention manipulate for their own cause and ego. You are minimising sunburn, sunbeds, and the utter brutality of melanoma. People need to be shocked, sometimes that is the only way to penetrate a person's thinking and keep them safe. The reality is that when a person has such a diagnosis it is often enough too late for that shock... They wish they'd had the wake up call earlier, prior to putting themselves at risk

There is scientific, peer-reviewed research that clearly states melanoma risk factors. These include being sunburnt under five years old which doubles melanoma risk. As an adult, five times doubles the risk. It doesn't mean you'll get it, but what if you do? So unless you are a specialist who grew up under that massive hole in the ozone layer, enough.

As for your four people with melanoma and no sunbeds. Is it family? Close friends? A neighbour's cousin's stepson? A workmate from 20 years ago? Four celebrities? A friend of a friend? What about all the other friends of friends or celebrities or workmates and those inbetween that have also had melanoma, but from sunbeds, you don't even know about? It's hardly relative or reliable is it? Stats work both ways. Your point is moot.

Remaker · 18/04/2025 03:41

OP I hope you get better treatment from your second trip to A&E.

A word of caution with trusting ‘people from hot countries’ for sunburn advice. Someone from Australia advised coconut oil - this is terrible advice! Someone else from Australia says they’ve been using tomatoes for years. I’m in my 50s and have never heard of tomatoes treating sunburn. There is some evidence that eating them can provide some protection and anecdotes about it soothing minor burns but it certainly doesn’t appear in any official medical recommendations!

My uncle died from one and I have a 30 year old relative who is stage 4 and not responding to treatment. Young people can and do die from melanoma.

Tricho · 18/04/2025 05:00

Jesus wept

I remember doing 10 fresh as a young foolish person.

I woke up at 3am in agony and op, tge recovery wasn't pretty

It was a week of lying down, applying aloe vera, trying not to move,

then I got covered in hundreds of tiny Water blisters that, whilst not painful, soaked my clothes as they popped when I moved.

Then I peeled. A lot. As in I left a trail.

Honestly the worst two weeks of my life abd I learnt a valuable lesson.

As you will too.

As you did double my time (christ alive) I'd honestly go to ozzy

Tricho · 18/04/2025 05:01

You know what did help me actually

Acv