To think there is a poor understanding of a healthy diet?

[LivelyLemonQuoter]

I think most people think they know what a healthy diet looks like, but in reality they do not. I see so many comments on MN that demonstrate this.

The most common one is that fruit should be limited because of its sugar content. This is very bad advice. Sugar in fruit has little impact on our blood sugar levels. And most people in the UK do not eat enough fruit.

The other is concern over eating any carbs. Wholemeal bread and pasta is fine, carbs in pastry and doughnuts is not great though.

And most people need to eat more nuts. Nuts are very good for you and should be part of your regular diet.

Better sugar-loaded pineapple than endless cans of coke and sausage rolls. From the amount of obese people you see now (it’s my glands - no-one in Belsen ever had a gland problem) there must be a great misunderstanding of what’s a decent diet and what’s not.
Perhaps I’m being harsh (no perhaps about it) but I’m sick of trying to pass ‘em waddling up the street in pairs taking up the footpath and, worse, spilling out of mobility scooters (too fat to walk). To think you can eat yourself into that state and then get State disability payments is just one example of the stupidity of this and previous Governments.
There’s no secret to staying a healthy weight. Moderation in everything and a balanced diet full of fruit and veg eaten at regular mealtimes - cut out the bread, cakes and crisps, pastries, pizzas and pop. These people who say they can’t afford to eat properly are a joke - what does a supermarket chicken cost? Carrots and other veg remain cheap in comparison to the shop-bought sausage rolls they’re all stuffing themselves and their kids with in the street.
Being fat is a conscious choice rather than a condition. Rant over.

that is a terrible comment @FozzieP
too fat to walk what an assumption to make

If I ate that many carbs in one day, I would bloat and feel awful.

People are different, and different things work for different people.

Might I ask what your qualifications are? Are you a nutritionist?

Do you have ant recommendations for what to eat instead?

I don't generally eat breakfast but, if I do, eggs are a good choice. Bacon and mushroom omelette cooked in butter; scrambled eggs cooked in butter; and smoked salmon (check there's no added sugar - lots have it!) and cream cheese (again, check ingredients). Add some avocado or spinach wilted in butter. Not everyday though due to oxylate content.

None of these will spike blood sugars.

Cheers. I have to eat before I take some very necessary meds.

Not saying it is right or wrong but lots of the indian subcontinent would have 2 or 3 portions of pulses a day. I often have 2 and I try to have at least one a day. Examples would be hommous ( chick peas) for lunch then minstrone soup ( canellini and bortotolli beans) for dinner. Or a tomato soup thickened with red lentils at lunch time followed by a curry with chick peas or chilli in the evening. That really isn't a strange diet is it ?

I don’t like rigidity when it comes to eating, I believe in a balanced diet with UPF sometimes, fish, meat, veg, carbs whether that’s supermarket or not, sugar if I want it in the form of chocolate or cake — and not limiting my life. For what it’s worth I am healthy and slim. Making people feel they’re not being “good”/healthy enough is crappy.

And I’ve never been more ill cutting out animal protein and dairy. I feel great eating a bit of every food group and especially a juicy big steak. But both is pure anecdota.

As seen on this thread, what suits on person won’t suit another.

Oh there's plenty of research about the benefits of eating berries, nuts, pulses, etc
Have you read any of the books on super-processed food? Tim Spector's Food For Life is very informative and will give you all the citations you need.

It also makes me want to chew my arm off 2hrs after I eat it. Even with Greek yoghurt on top.

I now sprinkle oats on my bowl of 40g flax and 300g Greek yoghurt. So I decorate the top of it with oats and berries.

I have to say I agreed with you up until this point 🙂.
I certainly wouldn't want to eat three portions of pulses a day. But then I'm not trying to cut meat out of my diet.

Probably not brilliant for non hdl cholesterol levels though.

Sugar (carbs) and fat both contribute to high bad cholesterol levels but people tend to focus on the fat element because it feels like it makes sense to them and so much of our diet/food industry is based around carbs, it makes sense to make fat the problem.

Some people on lower carb diets can find that their cholesterol levels raise due to the higher fat content but not everyone does.

I like to make meals that at 1 part protein, one part carb and one part veg. The other day, I asked DH what veg he wanted (we often use canned veg) and he said he wanted spaghetti loops. He genuinely thought they were a vegetable. This is something he was taught and given as an example of a vegetable as a child.

Probably because Heinz (used to?) put ‘one of your five a day’ on their labels

Looks like they still do

@BIWIah were using Asda own, which certainly does not have that! And is just spaghetti in sugar sauce…

But your DH might have had that growing up, which could explain his ‘confusion’!

Saturated fat is a big contributer to bad cholesterol levels. If you have had your lipid profile checked recently and it's good then obviously you personally aren't having too much but bacon, butter, cream cheese etc certainly not better than porridge with regard to heart disease risk.

I agree and this is demonstrated by the appalling amount of obesity these days.

I couldn't agree more @LivelyLemonQuoter.

A wholefood plant-based diet with a small amount of animal products is the natural way for humans (i.e. primates) to eat.

Veg, fruit, beans, pulses, nuts, seeds and wholegrains, plus a small amount of meat/fish/dairy.

That's it.

You can combine these foods in infinite ways to create delicious, flavourful, satisfying meals.

Cravings for so-called "treats" (i.e. food that you would never feed to a monkey or gorilla as it would be considered cruel) dissipate quickly once you start eating like this.

Since eating as nature intended I have never had to think about my weight. It's such an almighty relief.

Thank you for this thread OP.

My thoughts too. I’d rather be unhealthy than eat pulses for breakfast - and lunch and dinner. I wouldn’t have been able to hold down a relationship let alone find a husband if I had pulses every meal. 🙈

OP
isnt posting for those with allergies and intolerances though.

I don’t think anyone can be expected to individualise every single comment to every single mumsnetter.
It’s just about a general understanding of healthy eating