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One day old baby in pub

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Frenchie01 · 09/04/2025 23:27

So family member gave birth to first baby yesterday afternoon, she's a very young mum only 17 , normal delivery but episiotomy, baby good weight healthy. Was discharged home today and a couple of hours later was at the local pub not drinking alcohol just showing baby off and eating a meal , but am I right in thinking a day old baby baby is really too young to be in a pub or anywhere really , also worried she should be resting as obviously will be sore. Other family members have said I'm being old fashioned am I.

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Doggard · 10/04/2025 07:24

My NCT group met up in a pub to meet the first baby born the day after. The mum was very smug keen to tell us about her birth experience. Mum crashed a few days later when the adrenaline wore off.

I don't understand the issue with the location though. Surely hospitals have more germs than pubs? It's not like it's a midnight lock in?

Hydwangea · 10/04/2025 07:25

Christmasbear1 · 10/04/2025 01:09

@SouthLondonMum22
Whilst that's true they'll have family members helping, a day old baby wont have an immune system. People will be wanting to hold the baby. I've never seen people wash their hands properly in public toilets and they'll be touching the dirty cups/utensils at the pub and then touching baby. There's thirdhand smoking as well. People will smoke outside but it will still linger on clothes, hair and skin. Read about it online.

People can do what they want with their babies. Unless necessary, I wouldn't take a day old baby out let alone to a pub.

Family members will be doing exactly the same things at home. It may even be worse. Do you think people who don’t wash their hands in a public toilet suddenly do it in private? Or that they don’t pop into the garden to smoke?

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Livingbytheocean · 10/04/2025 07:27

The baby’s first day on earth and their parent thinks a rancid old pub is the first thing they will be introduced to?

It really is astonishing. Mindless. Setting the worst possible precedent and putting the parents wishes over the needs of a tiny newly delivered baby, even the thought of it really upsets me.

Coali · 10/04/2025 07:28

I went to the pub a few days after birth. Luckily, unlike some of the people here, we don’t go to smelly, dirty, loud, horrible pubs!

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 10/04/2025 07:28

Why the hell would anyone take a baby, particularly such a young one to a pub.
Full of pissed people, germs and smells.
Are people so desperate to socialise they would expose their baby to that?

Switcher · 10/04/2025 07:28

I did the same thing as we live next to the pub, and I was 40.

DappledThings · 10/04/2025 07:29

Livingbytheocean · 10/04/2025 07:27

The baby’s first day on earth and their parent thinks a rancid old pub is the first thing they will be introduced to?

It really is astonishing. Mindless. Setting the worst possible precedent and putting the parents wishes over the needs of a tiny newly delivered baby, even the thought of it really upsets me.

Edited

Who says it was a rancid old pub? Plenty of pubs are perfectly nice places serving good food. So much projecting.

Doggard · 10/04/2025 07:29

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 10/04/2025 07:28

Why the hell would anyone take a baby, particularly such a young one to a pub.
Full of pissed people, germs and smells.
Are people so desperate to socialise they would expose their baby to that?

Maybe the parents didn't want people in their space, feel pressured to clean etc so taking the meet and greet outside to a location where everyone can sit and eat but more importantly they will LEAVE was the easier option.

Switcher · 10/04/2025 07:30

Doggard · 10/04/2025 07:24

My NCT group met up in a pub to meet the first baby born the day after. The mum was very smug keen to tell us about her birth experience. Mum crashed a few days later when the adrenaline wore off.

I don't understand the issue with the location though. Surely hospitals have more germs than pubs? It's not like it's a midnight lock in?

I'm not quite sure some of the posters have been to a pub in 20 years..I think they imagine every pub is still sticky carpets and random darts flying around?

Jenkibubble · 10/04/2025 07:30

Frenchie01 · 09/04/2025 23:27

So family member gave birth to first baby yesterday afternoon, she's a very young mum only 17 , normal delivery but episiotomy, baby good weight healthy. Was discharged home today and a couple of hours later was at the local pub not drinking alcohol just showing baby off and eating a meal , but am I right in thinking a day old baby baby is really too young to be in a pub or anywhere really , also worried she should be resting as obviously will be sore. Other family members have said I'm being old fashioned am I.

If baby healthy (good weight etc ) and mum not too sore I think it’s OK .
Pubs are all smoke free now aren’t they ?
Mum sounds sensible not drinking etc and presumably she wasn’t there too long . Having a meal meant she didn’t have to cook etc .
I think times have changed . ….
We were challenged by a mature member of staff in Asda with my one day old (20 years ago )
She commented on the baby being too young to be out , but it was a lovely sunny day (July ) baby was a good weight and I’d been cooped up in a hospital the previous few days and I wanted to stretch my legs . Plus we needed food !

Newnamesameme · 10/04/2025 07:30

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 10/04/2025 07:28

Why the hell would anyone take a baby, particularly such a young one to a pub.
Full of pissed people, germs and smells.
Are people so desperate to socialise they would expose their baby to that?

I dunno what pubs you go to. But ours are very family friendly places. Not like what you are describing at all.

Livingbytheocean · 10/04/2025 07:31

DappledThings · 10/04/2025 07:29

Who says it was a rancid old pub? Plenty of pubs are perfectly nice places serving good food. So much projecting.

It’s just rough.
It could be the nicest pub in the world, it’s still not a place for a newborn baby that has only just arrived.

It’s just unthinkable to me, no wonder social services are overwhelmed if people genuinely think this is acceptable parenting, there is no thought whatsoever of the comfort and well being of the baby, that’s the issue I have with it.

MargaretThursday · 10/04/2025 07:31

Ds went into school followed by preschool and was held by teachers and children alike at 8 hours old.
He went to his first supermarket and cafe at 1 day old.
His first visit to Legoland was at about 3 days old.

#3 just has to get on with it.

x2boys · 10/04/2025 07:32

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 10/04/2025 07:28

Why the hell would anyone take a baby, particularly such a young one to a pub.
Full of pissed people, germs and smells.
Are people so desperate to socialise they would expose their baby to that?

Pubs vary massively i see no issue taking a young baby to a quiet country pub that serves nice food
It would be very different to a loud music venue type pub full of pissed up people.

Isthiswhatmenthink · 10/04/2025 07:32

Frenchie01 · 09/04/2025 23:33

I suppose I'm just amazed she can even walk , I was in no fit state to go anywhere lol , but it's been years since I had a baby maybe advice has changed . I was just a bit concerned about her overdoing it but I get she's excited to show off baby I remember that feeling too .

Day I was discharged after my sections I was out and about and visiting cafes and pubs and things. I felt fine and wanted to get out and about.

Isthiswhatmenthink · 10/04/2025 07:33

Livingbytheocean · 10/04/2025 07:31

It’s just rough.
It could be the nicest pub in the world, it’s still not a place for a newborn baby that has only just arrived.

It’s just unthinkable to me, no wonder social services are overwhelmed if people genuinely think this is acceptable parenting, there is no thought whatsoever of the comfort and well being of the baby, that’s the issue I have with it.

lol. Social services? Kindly get a grip.

ScentOfAMoomin · 10/04/2025 07:33

It wouldn’t be for me, but she sounds happy and delighted to show off her baby to her friends.

I think the pub context can vary widely, I doubt she had the baby propped at the bar with a pint.

DappledThings · 10/04/2025 07:34

Livingbytheocean · 10/04/2025 07:31

It’s just rough.
It could be the nicest pub in the world, it’s still not a place for a newborn baby that has only just arrived.

It’s just unthinkable to me, no wonder social services are overwhelmed if people genuinely think this is acceptable parenting, there is no thought whatsoever of the comfort and well being of the baby, that’s the issue I have with it.

Sounds like you have issues with pubs in general. It's mostly no different to a cafe or restaurant. Nothing wrong with being out and about if the mother feels up to it.

I remember the first day visit midwife telling me to make sure I stayed in bed on day 3 because I would definitely get a crash then and need to rest. I never wanted to stay in bed and never had that crash. I was at least up and on the sofa. Everyone feels differently in all those first few days and weeks.

Livingbytheocean · 10/04/2025 07:34

Isthiswhatmenthink · 10/04/2025 07:32

Day I was discharged after my sections I was out and about and visiting cafes and pubs and things. I felt fine and wanted to get out and about.

Edited

Yes we all know that is what YOU want to do!!!! It’s obvious the parents have no problem recognising what they want to do but surely the needs of the BABY should come first no? Jesus Christ.

Livingbytheocean · 10/04/2025 07:35

ROCK bottom standards is the issue I have, not with pubs per se.

Beeloux · 10/04/2025 07:36

I took ds2 on the bus to town and to do a supermarket shop 2 days after my emergency c section. Was a single parent and he was born tiny so needed to buy him tiny baby size clothing.

I wouldn’t have taken him to a pub so young but did go to cafes the following week.

DappledThings · 10/04/2025 07:36

Livingbytheocean · 10/04/2025 07:34

Yes we all know that is what YOU want to do!!!! It’s obvious the parents have no problem recognising what they want to do but surely the needs of the BABY should come first no? Jesus Christ.

When I went baby was snuggled up against me in a sling or being fed (bf so also by me) or sleeping happily in the pram. What needs are not being met by being in an environment that isn't the parents' own lounge?

Newnamesameme · 10/04/2025 07:37

Livingbytheocean · 10/04/2025 07:34

Yes we all know that is what YOU want to do!!!! It’s obvious the parents have no problem recognising what they want to do but surely the needs of the BABY should come first no? Jesus Christ.

What are the needs of the baby that op has told us were not being met?

HelenWheels · 10/04/2025 07:41

Newnamesameme · 10/04/2025 07:37

What are the needs of the baby that op has told us were not being met?

hygiene
immune system