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To think Lucy Connolly has been made an example of?

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SouthernFashionista · 06/04/2025 22:43

Have any of you read this article about Lucy Connolly who tweeted inflammatory comments following the Southport murders? I have to admit that at the time I was fully supportive of having her locked up, with the key thrown away. But reading this article made me view it all a little differently. Surely she has done her time?
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/04/lucy-connolly-southport-riots-axel-rudakubana-taylor-swift/

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Clavinova · 12/04/2025 20:51

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 20:47

So why did you ask if it was genuine or not?

What do you mean - I asked if you were posting from personal experience or a hypothetical scenario.

Boredofbeinganadult · 12/04/2025 20:52

No thanks. You can quote where Lucy actively encourage the minder of children though?

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 20:53

Boredofbeinganadult · 12/04/2025 20:45

Please do point out where I suggested it was okay because they were adults? Another lie of yours. I pointed out to you that Lucy never mentioned killing children.

She mentioned setting fire to hotels that had people inside some of which were children. Your point was that her words never mentioned children. There were children inside that hotel. She called them bastards. Not children.

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 20:55

Clavinova · 12/04/2025 20:51

What do you mean - I asked if you were posting from personal experience or a hypothetical scenario.

I had very clearly said this was a friend of mine that it has happened to.

I still do not understand why you think this was hypothetical when I clearly said it had happened to my friend.

Please explain why you thought I was not speaking from experience when I said 'my friend' or are you not sure what a friend is?

Clavinova · 12/04/2025 20:56

Mumble12 · 12/04/2025 20:47

None because no hotels were set on fire.

you're ok if someone threatens to set fire to your home then?

Edited

Obviously not ok.

Boredofbeinganadult · 12/04/2025 20:58

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 20:55

I had very clearly said this was a friend of mine that it has happened to.

I still do not understand why you think this was hypothetical when I clearly said it had happened to my friend.

Please explain why you thought I was not speaking from experience when I said 'my friend' or are you not sure what a friend is?

To be fair, it did seem that you were giving a hypothetical scenario at first

Boredofbeinganadult · 12/04/2025 21:06

Durhamgirlie · 12/04/2025 20:17

I feel complete sympathy for her.
Nobody should be arrested for posting tweets. Inciting violence is a crime but it hardly warrants 3 years in prison, I think being sent a fine in the post would be sufficient punishment and enough to put someone off doing it again!

And she was right about the government - they did cover up it being terror related and that the perpetrator was a known potential terror threat!

100%

Clavinova · 12/04/2025 21:08

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 20:55

I had very clearly said this was a friend of mine that it has happened to.

I still do not understand why you think this was hypothetical when I clearly said it had happened to my friend.

Please explain why you thought I was not speaking from experience when I said 'my friend' or are you not sure what a friend is?

Well it wasn't clear to me at the time - I see I missed the post you were replying to - plus you also asked a hypothetical question yourself.

Boredofbeinganadult · 12/04/2025 21:08

Mumble12 · 12/04/2025 19:55

“The bastards” (or the occupants of the hotel) are someone’s children.

if a baying mob set fire to your house and you died, would your mum be ok with it as you’re over 18?

Edited

She was referring to children not adults read her quotes yourself. She changed it to “even adults are someone’s children” because she couldn’t show me the quote where Lucy wanted children dead

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 21:09

Boredofbeinganadult · 12/04/2025 20:58

To be fair, it did seem that you were giving a hypothetical scenario at first

Why did it? I very clearly stated it had happened to a friend of mine.

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 21:11

Clavinova · 12/04/2025 21:08

Well it wasn't clear to me at the time - I see I missed the post you were replying to - plus you also asked a hypothetical question yourself.

It was very clear I said my friend was stabbed 71 times and had her throat slit. I recounted what had happened.

Me asking a hypothetical question doesn't suggest this was hypothetical.

Boredofbeinganadult · 12/04/2025 21:16

Walkden · 12/04/2025 19:05

"You are actually revolting" says the person excusing a woman advocating for people to be burned alive due to "trauma".

The justice system routinely takes into account people "trauma" which was a mitigating factor in sentencing as set out in the judges comments.

Presumably this was possible even though the judge was not a mother who had lost a child.....

When did I say it was okay for people to be burned alive? I have said further up thread that her crime should warrant a fine or a community service order. I have never once said her tweet was okay I said it didn’t warrant a sentence and I can’t actually believe she’s been jailed over a tweet she deleted within hours.

Clavinova · 12/04/2025 21:37

Maitri108 · 12/04/2025 20:41

I am also quoting the sentencing remarks:

12. In relation to your culpability this is clearly a category A case – as both
prosecution and your counsel agree, because you intended to incite serious violence.

Without knowing what her counsel said it's difficult to comment, other than she is appealing her sentence - 'her barrister, is expected to argue that the judge miscategorised her offence, with a sentence wrongly based on intending to incite serious violence.'

Although I do also think the judge's use of a comma in your quote could be seen as ambiguous - did her counsel agree she intended to incite serious violence or was that a pause before stating the judge's opinion?

Clavinova · 12/04/2025 21:39

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 21:11

It was very clear I said my friend was stabbed 71 times and had her throat slit. I recounted what had happened.

Me asking a hypothetical question doesn't suggest this was hypothetical.

Edited

I can only reiterate that I was asking a genuine question.

Mumble12 · 12/04/2025 21:44

Clavinova · 12/04/2025 20:56

Obviously not ok.

Got it, so not ok for your home. Ok for
someone else’s home

Mumble12 · 12/04/2025 21:45

Clavinova · 12/04/2025 21:37

Without knowing what her counsel said it's difficult to comment, other than she is appealing her sentence - 'her barrister, is expected to argue that the judge miscategorised her offence, with a sentence wrongly based on intending to incite serious violence.'

Although I do also think the judge's use of a comma in your quote could be seen as ambiguous - did her counsel agree she intended to incite serious violence or was that a pause before stating the judge's opinion?

They both mean the same thing. Intending to incite serious violence was what made it a category a offense. The counsel agreed with that.

ClearHoldBuild · 12/04/2025 21:48

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 12/04/2025 19:26

She downplayed her own trauma when she messaged friends saying she plans to “play the mental health card”.

You forgot the “lol” at the end of the message

Clavinova · 12/04/2025 21:49

Mumble12 · 12/04/2025 21:44

Got it, so not ok for your home. Ok for
someone else’s home

Obviously not - but I still think her sentence was harsh - I guess we shall find out either way after her appeal hearing next month.

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 21:54

Clavinova · 12/04/2025 21:39

I can only reiterate that I was asking a genuine question.

Sorry would be the words you could use going forwards after assuming someone made something up like that.

Clavinova · 12/04/2025 21:56

Mumble12 · 12/04/2025 21:45

They both mean the same thing. Intending to incite serious violence was what made it a category a offense. The counsel agreed with that.

We don't know what the counsel agreed - or he may have said something that indicated she used a 'position of trust, authority or influence to stir up hatred' because of her social media footprint - which is also in the same category box.

Mumble12 · 12/04/2025 21:59

Clavinova · 12/04/2025 21:56

We don't know what the counsel agreed - or he may have said something that indicated she used a 'position of trust, authority or influence to stir up hatred' because of her social media footprint - which is also in the same category box.

We do know, because it’s been written by the judge. If the counsel had not agreed, I’m
sure there would have been an objection to having this read out in court.

Clavinova · 12/04/2025 22:07

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 21:54

Sorry would be the words you could use going forwards after assuming someone made something up like that.

I didn't assume you made it up - I asked a genuine question. Although I think we went beyond sorry in your first reply to me.

whippy1981 · 12/04/2025 22:12

Clavinova · 12/04/2025 22:07

I didn't assume you made it up - I asked a genuine question. Although I think we went beyond sorry in your first reply to me.

You asked if I had made it up or if it was real. You didn't expect me to be able to prove it.

Nice deflection there ....we see you.

Clavinova · 12/04/2025 22:27

Mumble12 · 12/04/2025 21:59

We do know, because it’s been written by the judge. If the counsel had not agreed, I’m
sure there would have been an objection to having this read out in court.

Do counsel have advance sight of sentencing remarks? Did her counsel imply rather than directly state she intended to incite serious violence? Plus, I still think the judge's comma could be seen as ambiguous.

Mumble12 · 12/04/2025 22:59

Clavinova · 12/04/2025 22:27

Do counsel have advance sight of sentencing remarks? Did her counsel imply rather than directly state she intended to incite serious violence? Plus, I still think the judge's comma could be seen as ambiguous.

Are you being serious? You think the judge can just say whatever he wants in the courtroom? Would be a totally bizarre thing to include if it wasn’t true, it’s read out in front of her counsel.

What’s ambiguous about the comma? I genuinely don’t understand what you’re trying to imply

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