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Would you be in a relationship with someone if your dc refused to have anything to do with them?

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Brunocatmon · 04/04/2025 21:12

I met my partner in 2022, we started off as long distance then broke up because of the distance ( she doesn't drive ), her jealousy, insecurities, some background stuff that I found out she'd lied about.

When we broke up she was vile to me, called me all the names under the sun, sent me pics of her and some bloke she met in a pub saying she was on a date with someone who knew how to treat a woman. I had to block her eventually.

A few months later she got in touch through a mutual as she heard that one of my close family members had cancer.

Long story short we got back together and 3 months later she relocated to my city. Not living with me.

Things were fine mostly except she'd give me the silent treatment if something pissed her off. She was insanely jealous of my past and anyone I had any contact with.

Over Christmas and new year I had to rearrange some plans because of my adult dd visiting from overseas.
On the day before nye I had to go to hers later than we'd planned ( I still wrnt with the plan to stay overnight ) and when I got there she was really drunk and started verbally assaulting me saying she hated me, calling me over and over a c*nt. I tried to leave and she wouldn't let me leave and she carried on.
She threw some small items at me and was screaming in my face.

Eventually I managed to get put and she attacked my car so I couldn't drive off, banging on the windows and screaming abuse and kicking it.

After I managed to drive away she called me threatening to cut herself then again saying she'd cut herself and if she bled to death it would be my fault, that she was going to call my dd ( 16, autistic ) saying when I'd made her do.

Next thing dd calls me in a panic saying where are you cos X has said I need to call you. This is midnight. I said I'm fine I'm coming home.

I got home and the dc were up scared about what had happened, my phone rang and it was x sating I'm bleeding and she'd sent me photos of her arms that she'd cut ( lightly, she was not bleeding ) and a picture of her arm with a knife lying beside it with no marks on.

I broke up with her and dc said she's never welcome here again.

Again I had to block because of her behaviour.

Fast forward another couple of months and we'd started talking. She agreed to therapy, she agreed to counselling, aline and together, she got a job, a new flat and pulled herself together. This was the beginning of 2024.

Mid way through the year my eldest dd got engaged and it suddenly dawned on me that I'll never be able to bring my partner to my dc weddings, I wasn't able to bring her to my grandsons christening, to a big family gathering that I organised so I broke it off with her and told her why.

During that time we'd been to counselling and on the first visit she lied to the counsellor about a really significant thing.

After a few months after us talking and me thinking about things I decided to make a go of it with her. My dc will all be off living their own lives and then what?

Currently we are in a relationship. We don't live together and won't be doing in the next couple of years as my daughter and her family are moving back from overseas and are staying with me whilst they look for and move into their own place.

I can't bring my partner round to my house because my dc don't want anything to do with her and this is their safe space and I always told then I would respect that. I can and do go to her place in the same small city.

I just think about it all the time. People say the dc will come around but what if they don't? I'm a huge family person, it's all I ever wanted. But I want my partner with me.

We'd?

OP posts:
Pallisers · 04/04/2025 23:12

You need to get some therapy to explore why you are constantly drawn back to this awful drama and weirdness.

PyongyangKipperbang · 04/04/2025 23:12

Brunocatmon · 04/04/2025 22:31

Do you think it's possible for a person to change?

Theoretically its possibly but vanishingly rare and definitely not if they have no desire or reason to.

She lost you more than once through her behaviour and hasnt changed. Why would she change now?

Also, you say you are 50's (same age as me) and if she is a similar age then I would say it is even less likely. Her behaviour has got her this far hasnt it?

Why was she suspended from her job I wonder......

You know what they say "if you meet one arsehole all day, they are the arsehole. If all you seem to meet are arseholes then the arsehole is you". She is the arsehole. Not a SINGLE person in your life has time for her, why not listen to the people you love and trust to have your best interests at heart?

PyongyangKipperbang · 04/04/2025 23:14

Iamuhtredsonofuhtred · 04/04/2025 23:00

Read up on BPD and see if it rings any bells

Or perhaps she is just a nasty jealous abusive manipulative person. More people are total arseholes than have BPD......

thaisweetchill · 04/04/2025 23:16

If you stay with her you will throw away any relationship with your kids, get out now OP.

Best to have a chat in a public place with no alcohol involved and break it off. Tell her you are going no contact and don’t ever contact her again.

Iamuhtredsonofuhtred · 04/04/2025 23:21

PyongyangKipperbang · 04/04/2025 23:14

Or perhaps she is just a nasty jealous abusive manipulative person. More people are total arseholes than have BPD......

Not diagnosing. Just suggesting she has a read. I recognise the behaviour

rebelliousbookgirl · 04/04/2025 23:21

Oh dear! What happened to you?

This is the person you want to bring around your child?
As in, even if your child had accepted this human(thank God she hasn’t btw), you’d allow this person into yours and your child’s life?

Well, color me surprised!🤦‍♀️

Someone who screams “abuse” when you’ve not actually done anything?
Are you trying to completely destroy your life?

Have you thought of what’ll happen if you eventually start a family with this person?!

Someone who treats you like shii has no business getting a front row ticket to your life

Please make better dating decisions, not just for yourself but for your child.

You shouldn’t allow just anyone to have access to your lives, her future depends on the choices you make today and that’s also very dependent on how you treat yourself too…

Get rid of whatever it is you are feeling for this toxic human, f*ck it out of your system if you must but trash the entire relationship ASAP!!

Brunocatmon · 04/04/2025 23:37

I hate drama, she seems to thrive on it. Yesterday I was really listening to her speak about someone at her workplace and she gets really unpleasantly personal. This kind of behaviour makes me deeply uncomfortable.

All of her friends say how broken she was without me and how nice it is to see her smiling again. All of mine think I'm nuts.

I know what I have to do.

OP posts:
OliveWah · 04/04/2025 23:41

I'm glad for you that it sounds like you've made your mind up to end the relationship, I'm sure your DC will be relieved. When you have a bit of distance from the relationship, come back and read your OP @Brunocatmon, and I bet you'll be as horrified as the rest of us by this awful person. I echo PPs advice to continue with the therapy on your own, hopefully it will enable you to avoid such toxicity in the future.

BountifulPantry · 04/04/2025 23:57

Get this person out your life!

steff13 · 04/04/2025 23:59

You're not ready for a relationship. Break up with her and focus on counseling.

HRTQueen · 05/04/2025 00:01

No

and they have very good reason to dislike her she isn’t a nice person

Whatwouldnanado · 05/04/2025 00:02

Your dc seem to have better judgement of what you deserve than you do. Better than this . Please get rid for the sake of your family.

TwistedWonder · 05/04/2025 00:04

Ob OP what are you doing wasting your life with this repulsive abuser? She is absolutely vile - please please find it in yourself to end this horrible farce of a relationship

Your DC is completely right not to have anything to do you her - please remove this dark cloud from all of your lives

Do not give in to her emotional blackmail. It’s all hollow threats nothing in the tiniest chance she chooses to hurt herself, that’s not on you at all. But I’d bet my mortgage it’s all hot air

PyongyangKipperbang · 05/04/2025 01:02

Brunocatmon · 04/04/2025 23:37

I hate drama, she seems to thrive on it. Yesterday I was really listening to her speak about someone at her workplace and she gets really unpleasantly personal. This kind of behaviour makes me deeply uncomfortable.

All of her friends say how broken she was without me and how nice it is to see her smiling again. All of mine think I'm nuts.

I know what I have to do.

Big girl pants on and do it.

And I have to say I am disbelieving that she has friends. Does she really have friends who love and care about her or does she have a lot of people who are utterly sick of her dramatics but dont want to tell her to do one, because they are afraid of her reaction? My money is on the latter.

PyongyangKipperbang · 05/04/2025 01:04

steff13 · 04/04/2025 23:59

You're not ready for a relationship. Break up with her and focus on counseling.

In fairness, no one would be ready for a relationship with someone this toxic.

SallyDraperGetInHere · 05/04/2025 01:14

This is an unhealthy relationship. You knew this before, and you got reeled back in by her purported empathy for your family member’s diagnosis. This woman preys on you, and is abusive and has acted in bad faith at couples counselling. Worst of all, her manipulative behaviour towards your teen daughter is unforgivable. Your children are in your life for life. Don’t permit her to have anything to do with you or them again. You have to end it.

steff13 · 05/04/2025 01:38

PyongyangKipperbang · 05/04/2025 01:04

In fairness, no one would be ready for a relationship with someone this toxic.

Right, because people who are ready for a relationship would never have taken them back in the first place. That was my point. OP clearly had issues she needs to address if she's allowing herself to be treated this way.

Lavender14 · 05/04/2025 01:45

Op you're in an abusive relationship. Your children have very clearly told you they are uncomfortable around this woman because of her abusive and unstable behaviour which has directly impacted and scared your children. You block. You delete. You never ever ever contact her again and do not respond if she reaches out to you.

You put your children first here and you continue getting yourself some therapy to understand why you have been allowing yourself to get dragged back into this abusive relationship repeatedly.

I also understand the need to have a "why" and that's a trap I've also fallen victim to. But sometimes we need to realise that the behaviour on its own is enough to determine our response. Knowing the why doesn't actually change anything as far as you're concerned they're still abusing you

Theoldbird · 05/04/2025 01:57

I cannot believe you got back with her after she involved your 16 YEAR OLD CHILD in her dramas. Your poor daughter must have been absolutely out of her mind with terror. That stood out for me particularly because I have a 17 year old. I cannot get past that, I don't know you could have given this woman another chance.

Meadowfinch · 05/04/2025 02:11

This is a person who assaults you, threatens you, blackmails you. She is clearly mentally unstable, has upset your children intentionally, is nasty and manipulative. She divides you from your family.

For goodness sake, give your head a wobble. Why would you want to be with someone so vile?

singlewhitetrashheap · 05/04/2025 02:15

Brunocatmon · 04/04/2025 22:31

Do you think it's possible for a person to change?

Oh for goodness sake! Don't be so naive. Your own CHILD is trying to tell you this is BAD.

1SillySossij · 05/04/2025 03:16

People don't change, op!

TheaBrandt1 · 05/04/2025 03:24

Does she look like Elle McPherson / is a generous billionaire / there are no other women whatsoever living in your town? Even if any of those boxes are ticked it still seems mad you are with her!

Delphiniumandlupins · 05/04/2025 04:00

It's not your responsibility to fix her. In fact, your relationship has been so volatile that I honestly don't think either of you is good for the other. I don't understand why you started talking to her again after the way she treated you and your poor DD.

FurFangsPawsAndClaws · 05/04/2025 04:38

Iamuhtredsonofuhtred · 04/04/2025 23:00

Read up on BPD and see if it rings any bells

Sorry but I HATE this stereotype.

I have BPD, they have changed the name due to the stigma behind it, it’s now emotionally unstable personality disorder.

I have read so many people referring to BPD on posts like this where someone is a nasty, jealous and manipulative person.

BPD is usually down to a fear of being abandoned often down to trauma, there is an element of abusive behaviours but it’s usually directed towards the person diagnosed themselves and no one else.

When I was diagnosed I was absolutely devastated thinking that this is the sort of person I’d be portrayed as, I hate anyone finding out and the thought of their view of me changing.

I apologise that I’ve picked on you to rant at, you are just one of many posters that have suggested BPD in a negative way similar to this. It’s harmful to try to diagnose someone when you aren’t qualified - not just for the person you are trying to diagnose but for people who genuinely have the condition and start to question if these behaviours can be attributed to them.

Please think carefully before you post similar, it’s not just me that feels like this, I am in support groups with many other people who feel the same. You can’t just look at a list of behaviours online and think it fits with a short post you’ve read, psychiatrists take time to meet people and are trained to give a diagnosis, there will be arseholes with BPD and people like me who puts everyone before themselves as they care more about others then themselves.

I don’t want to derail the thread but I’ve seen similar comments so many times and was upset enough to comment myself this time, maybe because the person OP is in a relationship with sounds like a horrible abusive person and I hated being compared to that in any way.

There are negative connotations with a lot of conditions in life, it’s unlikely that they make up all of someone’s personality, just like anyone with or without a diagnosis there is good and bad in everyone