Seriously thinking about leaving the UK - AIBU?

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I love the UK in many ways but it has been going downhill for at least 20 years and it feels as if the speed of the decline is accelerating. I no longer see a happy, or particularly safe, future here. For the first time in my life, I am very seriously thinking about leaving the UK and that feeling gets stronger day by day. When I mention this to friends, many are feeling the same way. YANBU - you are right to think seriously about leaving the UK. YABU - the UK is a still a great country to live in and you are being unreasonable to want to leave.

As a Brit currently in the US (through no choice of my own!), I would sell one of my less vital organs to get out of this hellscape and back to Blighty.
The U.K. has its problems. Of course it does. But I’ve never experienced the utter chaos that is happening here since the election in January. We aren’t in a position where we are able to just leave and come home whenever we want to - my DH is active duty military, so we go where they tell us to go. Currently trying to pull every string possible to get the fuck out of dodge and back to the U.K. or any of the other US bases in Europe. Anywhere but here.

The UK can't be the second biggest economy in the EU!

I know someone who sold up and moved to Spain about 10 years ago. I know he would like to come back but he's priced out property wise. He's dating and hoping that pooling resources with a companion can get him back to somewhere he wants to live. I don't want to make him sound mercenary. He's a lovely guy and I think he hopes that he can find the right person and share a future in the UK.

Eh? I am sorry, Scotland turned to shit in the last 20 years - my relatives still live in Darnley (South Side of Glasgow) and I visit often. From Glasgow Airport to the Hurlet roundabout the motorway (same road that most participants had to drive through to get to the famous Climate Change event) is strewn with rubbish, including discarded fridges and armchairs, this was the case when Glasgow was welcoming the Climate Change Summit. You can't see the grass for plastic bottles, cardboard, etc. Roads look like Beirut roads after a bombing, Glasgow town centre is full of foreigners during day time, and Southside is full of Romanians who beg and sell the Big Issue. The pavements are full of dog shit - and this is Sauchiehall Street. High Street is dead, etc. etc. I don't recognise Scotland anymore. Even my childhood holiday Isle of Bute is full of Syrians, who were supposed to go home after they overthrow Assad - but they stay firmly in place. About you feeling at home in Scotland, you being born in East Anglia - you have no idea of the hatred of the English, this is all I have to say. And this anti-English hatred is not being addressed in a way that all other types of hate crimes are addressed. It is shocking.

How many of the 54% are children as well…

@theDudesmummy it is, second to Germany.

The UK has never been through these levels of migration from alien (non-Commonwealth countries).

@Supporthelittleguys no its not, as it's not in the EU. (That's literally the whole reason I left in 2020).

By 2030, half of all 18 year olds IN THE WORLD will be from Sub Saharan Africa

In the UK, 500,000 kids leave school every year
but
Around 750,000 people qualify for the state pension each year
as the UK ages

UK is now despised by its own people because its own people remember what it used to be like, so no wonder they despise it now. Equally, UK is a magnet for 1000s of people as you say, because they come from hellholes, compared to which the UK is a land of miracles, especially since those coming have priority over our own in terms of accommodation and benefits - compare them to our homeless and you will see the difference.

I have just been staying with friends in NZ and most of the families I know there have at least one if not several of their children living and working abroad. Several came to UK, one to Australia, One to Dubai, One Hong Kong. It is a beautiful country but a lot of young people there feel remote from rest of world and move away.

Is all of the Middle East a powder keg? The uae? Qatar? Kuwait? Oman? All powder kegs? I know a good number of people that have moved to the uae and for the most part it is cheaper than here.

and what’s wrong with Canada?

That's different though - Brits are welcomed everywhere! 🙄

Brits will be begging for food and selling Big Issue in Romania?

U ok hun?

I have family all over the world and there are few places that aren't having similar issues. Where do you see yourself going ?

@theDudesmummy 🙄 pedantic.

You will have poverty if your corporations are paying wages below the real costs of living.

You would encourage them to go, like the clever Jews did, from Nazi Austria and Germany before 1939, when they saw that their countries were going to shit and encouraged their children to run to England (the great Anita Brookner's parents), when they themselves had to stay/had no means of running away.

Go for it. Crap weather here too - move somewhere sunny!

Maybe I am. I am still so angry about Brexit that it makes me like that!

People who complain most about the UK are looking for a reason to moan about immigration. Then tell you why they want to emigrate themselves. Or that their kids already have. They are entitled to, you see. Because. 🙄