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Reported possible benefit fraud

263 replies

snitchapparently · 25/03/2025 16:16

I suspect someone of claiming carers allowance fraudulently, and after bottling out several times, I just submitted a report. It’s likely to get back to me if something comes of this and I feel like the bad guy for doing it. Am I the bad guy?! Should I just not have said anything?!

To claim you need to be providing 35 hours a week of care and also earn under a certain threshold and I’m fairly sure this person meets neither of those criteria. (If I’m wrong, of course, there will be no ill effect to the claim).

Feel quite stressed.

OP posts:
Blemin · 25/03/2025 17:54

@snitchapparently TBH I'd leave and hide this thread now. It's going to be you being relentlessly slagged off for a thousand posts and that's just going to make you feel victimised and you will lose the precious insight you just gained.

It's ok to just hide the thread and disengage. You don't need to take on all comers.

ZookeeperSE · 25/03/2025 17:55

The fact you have come to mumnet to ask if you are the bad guy suggest to me that you think you may have done something wrong

Lol. Don’t think so. Think they thought they’d get a unanimous pat on the back.

PyongyangKipperbang · 25/03/2025 17:55

And a PP makes a good point......if someone like you reported me I wouldnt be able to manage financially so would have to go back to work FT and my parents would need agency carers which would cost the government more PER DAY than they currently pay me per week. How is that balance sheet looking now?

ETA that is to say, I wouldnt manage if it was suspended during an investigation which can take months. I have not claimed fraudulently but it would still cause me and my parents huge problems whilst this was being proven.

snitchapparently · 25/03/2025 17:55

SerendipityJane · 25/03/2025 17:52

What size cape do you take ?

😂

OP posts:
Mache71 · 25/03/2025 17:56

Wow no wonder the government are the biggest enenfiy frauds. You literally have no proof of fraud and aren’t even sure

snitchapparently · 25/03/2025 17:56

ZookeeperSE · 25/03/2025 17:55

The fact you have come to mumnet to ask if you are the bad guy suggest to me that you think you may have done something wrong

Lol. Don’t think so. Think they thought they’d get a unanimous pat on the back.

No, I knew it would be a mixed bag! Though the support for fraudulent claims is larger than I’d have thought.

OP posts:
DrPrunesqualer · 25/03/2025 17:57

MoreChocPls · 25/03/2025 16:33

There’s over £1.35 BILLION of benefit fraud. Every little adds up and serves as a deterrent.

yanbu.

Agree

Benefit fraud is tax payers money
You did the right thing OP

snitchapparently · 25/03/2025 17:57

Blemin · 25/03/2025 17:54

@snitchapparently TBH I'd leave and hide this thread now. It's going to be you being relentlessly slagged off for a thousand posts and that's just going to make you feel victimised and you will lose the precious insight you just gained.

It's ok to just hide the thread and disengage. You don't need to take on all comers.

Thanks for your understanding and your insight Blemin

OP posts:
ZookeeperSE · 25/03/2025 17:58

So, one more try … You’ve heavily implied the elderly person must be claiming AA as it isn’t assessed. Ergo, you are also implying they are fraudulently claiming. So, have you reported them too?

Oioisavaloy27 · 25/03/2025 17:58

snitchapparently · 25/03/2025 17:56

No, I knew it would be a mixed bag! Though the support for fraudulent claims is larger than I’d have thought.

Absolutely unbelievable...................

fatphalange · 25/03/2025 17:58

You've got dread in the pit of your stomach, shitting yourself feeling haven't you. You fucked up.

lifeturnsonadime · 25/03/2025 17:58

snitchapparently · 25/03/2025 17:56

No, I knew it would be a mixed bag! Though the support for fraudulent claims is larger than I’d have thought.

Not one post on here supports fraudulent claims.

You have lost all credibility with this post.

Bitofanchange · 25/03/2025 17:59

snitchapparently · 25/03/2025 17:10

It…. really is. It’s completely unassessed. If you say the right thing, you’ll receive it unchallenged. And it’s not a particularly high bar. Most elderly folk could probably get this.

You are incredibly naive and misinformed with your analogy of AA is easy to obtain, the application form one is too much for many people to even start a claim.

SerendipityJane · 25/03/2025 18:00

Maybe we should give the OP a break. Just because we trust our consciences and don't need to seek the approval of strangers doesn't mean there aren't some who need validation before they know right from wrong.

AnxiousOCDMum · 25/03/2025 18:00

snitchapparently · 25/03/2025 16:48

No, they even got a second cash in hand evening job at one point. As I say, I’m as sure as I can be without living with the person that they simply don’t meet any of the criteria.

Maybe it costs a lot to care for someone and the pip or carers allowance doesn’t cover it?

why did you do this? What was your actual
motivation to report someone who is clearly working very, very hard to make ends meet?

PyongyangKipperbang · 25/03/2025 18:00

lifeturnsonadime · 25/03/2025 17:58

Not one post on here supports fraudulent claims.

You have lost all credibility with this post.

You mean she had some credibility? Must have missed that....

Feelingstrange2 · 25/03/2025 18:00

How can you know this?

I'm a carer for my father. Before you report me, I don't claim carers allowance but probably could.

It's also possible to register as a carer - which I have - but not claim the allowance. The reason I registered is so I carry a card and if I'm run down by a bus someone will see from the card that my Dad is at home and needs someone to call on him and do my job.

Surely if they have a employment income it's all submitted to the authorities by the employer so any.internal department can see if they are not entitled?

pointythings · 25/03/2025 18:00

Bignanna · 25/03/2025 17:45

If the person reported by op is investigated and found to be innocent, then there isn’t a problem.

Read the full thread. When people are reported, they have their money stopped, have linked benefits stopped meaning they can lose most of their income, and are hounded for years afterwards because there is a marker on them.

So reporting someone has serious consequences and anyone who does it and is then found to have been wrong should probably be publicly vilified.

Bilbo63 · 25/03/2025 18:00

You can only earn £151 per week to be entitled to carers allowance. That is about 13 hours a week. You’ve got it wrong.

ZookeeperSE · 25/03/2025 18:00

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lifeturnsonadime · 25/03/2025 18:00

PyongyangKipperbang · 25/03/2025 18:00

You mean she had some credibility? Must have missed that....

Good point.

Bitofanchange · 25/03/2025 18:02

snitchapparently · 25/03/2025 16:48

No, they even got a second cash in hand evening job at one point. As I say, I’m as sure as I can be without living with the person that they simply don’t meet any of the criteria.

Did you report them to HMRC then?

Bilbo63 · 25/03/2025 18:02

Are you sure the person being cared for is not getting PIP and you have not got your wires crossed?

EmeraldRoulette · 25/03/2025 18:02

@snitchapparently what made you want to do this? Is it a family member?

I smell "personal grudge".

AmusedGoose · 25/03/2025 18:02

Carers allowance is very low. I wouldn't have bothered in these circumstances.