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Reported possible benefit fraud

263 replies

snitchapparently · 25/03/2025 16:16

I suspect someone of claiming carers allowance fraudulently, and after bottling out several times, I just submitted a report. It’s likely to get back to me if something comes of this and I feel like the bad guy for doing it. Am I the bad guy?! Should I just not have said anything?!

To claim you need to be providing 35 hours a week of care and also earn under a certain threshold and I’m fairly sure this person meets neither of those criteria. (If I’m wrong, of course, there will be no ill effect to the claim).

Feel quite stressed.

OP posts:
Simplynotsimple · 26/03/2025 16:32

There were so many threads of this flavour about PiP claimants before the government suddenly decided to change the goalposts. Are they now planting threads about carers allowance to stir the pot? Because (and not troll hunting) there is so much that doesn’t make sense here. You can’t work full time and claim carers for one. My friend went from being a full time carer to working around drop off/pick up times and was just under the threshold. However some weeks required cover or other paid additional time and CA were very on the case, they’d stop it if there was even a whiff of going over the limit. Friend just stopped claiming eventually as it wasn’t worth going back and forth over it. Of course those who claim CA and don’t work full time often claim UC as well, and they take CA away £1 for £1 so you don’t actually get a penny of it anyway. Just seems to me like the op hasn’t the full facts of the situation and is blundering ahead over some sort of ‘see it/say it’ war on benefits…

SerendipityJane · 26/03/2025 16:37

Simplynotsimple · 26/03/2025 16:32

There were so many threads of this flavour about PiP claimants before the government suddenly decided to change the goalposts. Are they now planting threads about carers allowance to stir the pot? Because (and not troll hunting) there is so much that doesn’t make sense here. You can’t work full time and claim carers for one. My friend went from being a full time carer to working around drop off/pick up times and was just under the threshold. However some weeks required cover or other paid additional time and CA were very on the case, they’d stop it if there was even a whiff of going over the limit. Friend just stopped claiming eventually as it wasn’t worth going back and forth over it. Of course those who claim CA and don’t work full time often claim UC as well, and they take CA away £1 for £1 so you don’t actually get a penny of it anyway. Just seems to me like the op hasn’t the full facts of the situation and is blundering ahead over some sort of ‘see it/say it’ war on benefits…

The most evil thing, is that a lot of benefit bashing is really achieved by appealing to peoples guilt over the fact that the disabled get a shit deal in life.

Rather than channel that guilt into improving life for the disabled, it's perverted into the Snitch-As-A-Service mindset of the OP.

Uricon2 · 26/03/2025 16:44

@Simplynotsimple I could of course be proved wrong but I doubt the Govt will come after Carers Allowance. The recipients of this humbling largesse, currently £81.90 a week (and of course those who don't claim due to age or earnings) save the country over 180 billion a year (try filling that hole Rachel)

Simplynotsimple · 26/03/2025 17:03

Uricon2 · 26/03/2025 16:44

@Simplynotsimple I could of course be proved wrong but I doubt the Govt will come after Carers Allowance. The recipients of this humbling largesse, currently £81.90 a week (and of course those who don't claim due to age or earnings) save the country over 180 billion a year (try filling that hole Rachel)

Actually I believe carers allowance (and DLA) is fully on the agenda. Not because of the money (as I said, most people who claim it don’t actually see a penny after UC takes it back), but because it gives an out on having to look for work with the job centre. I suspect they’ll halve it or make us jump through a million hoops and paperwork to prove that we’re actually caring every second of the 35 hours a week. Any loophole to say ‘that’s not good enough’ and they’ll have carers down the job centre along with those under their care. I genuinely don’t understand why the government doesn’t pay home carers a taxable minimum wage, it would be two birds/one stone fix.

Thistooshallpsss · 26/03/2025 23:57

Also by making pip much harder to claim lots of carers will lose their entitlement and be forced to look for work even though they are full time carers. And all these sick and disabled people who is going to employ them and who is going to keep them in work when their chronic conditions mean they take more time off sick or are unable to do the things their well colleagues can do?

Serpentstooth · 27/03/2025 08:17

Nothing like making yourself feel better by making someone else feel worse is there OP? Do enjoy your day.

GrouachMacbeth · 27/03/2025 08:24

Surely if you believe that someone is doing something wrong, whether abusing a person, taking what they are not entitled to, driving when dangerous then it is your duty as a responsible citizen to report it. It will be investigated and if found to be correct the wrongdoer will be held accountable.

Serpentstooth · 27/03/2025 09:52

I might believe all kinds o3f things about my friends and family. In the absence of evidence, Belief is not a good reason to attempt to interfere in something that doesn't concern me. I refer you to many hundreds of years of a developing justice system in which evidence is a requirement, not belief. Otherwise we'd still be burning witches.

JitterbugFairy · 27/03/2025 09:55

Proudofthem · 25/03/2025 16:18

Do you not realise how much a carer does.
You have come across as an interfering busybody.
Why report if you don't have the full facts.

If they're claiming genuinely,then they have nothing to worry about.

MurdoMunro · 27/03/2025 09:57

The information given on this thread alone @JitterbugFairy is that this is not the case

SerendipityJane · 27/03/2025 09:59

And all these sick and disabled people who is going to employ them

If I recall correctly, in Aktion T4 some could operate the crematoria

Here's a new poster for this campaign. You can try to ask ChatGPT to translate it. However even "AI" balks at it.

Reported possible benefit fraud
Boomer55 · 27/03/2025 10:04

I couldn’t claim CA, but I was a carer, for a long time, for my late husband.

Its a 24/7 “job” and one of the hardest things to do in life - it involves absolutely everything.🙄

Nights awake, days non stop, especially if you have a paid job as well.

Well done for making someone’s life harder though. 🙄

Simplynotsimple · 27/03/2025 10:30

JitterbugFairy · 27/03/2025 09:55

If they're claiming genuinely,then they have nothing to worry about.

So naive. UC are currently going through everyone’s claims, and even though I know I’m not ‘up to anything’ I’m still dreading the phonecall where I’ll have to explain all my outgoings. It’s a humiliation reserved only for those who claim help.

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